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the Talking Can 12-11-2012 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=Austin Ed;9201175]
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9200695)
And my post was more serious than not. You have a bunch of people who haven't seen him play making comments.

That's the nature of a message board.[/


They are asking the exact same question about Geno on the Jacksonville board---The Jungle. Answer there from a WVU fan is that Geno has underpeformed against better defenses, and has had problems finding receivers and has been less accurate in critical third down situations. I saw him play in person against Texas early in the year and he was lights out. However, he was not the same guy in some other games (eg, TTU and K State).

ask oklahoma's defense how he played...you can't throw for 4000 yards, 6 ints, at a 70% percent completion rate and have 'problems finding receivers'

i've never seen a guy get killed so bad for one truly bad game - kstate...

he carried the worst defense in college, regularly had to pass on 4th down, had to score 40 to even have a chance to win....and all people do is kill him for not winning a national championship

meanwhile we got people pimping life long choke artists like murray, or guys who have accomplished jack shit like bray...it's crazy

O.city 12-11-2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201193)
You can probably add the Jets and the Eagles to the list... Foles may get the job. But lets say 6 to be conservative. Who are your top 7 QBs?

Say this is true, which it may very well be.


Why wait and take the 7th best QB in the draft, when you can pretty much assure yourself the top 1 or 2?

Sorter 12-11-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201123)
Dee Milliner could be pretty close.

This post is BlackBob quality.

O.city 12-11-2012 09:57 PM

Sorter we could use some of your elite football knowledge in this thread.

ILChief 12-11-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201193)
You can probably add the Jets and the Eagles to the list... Foles may get the job. But lets say 6 to be conservative. Who are your top 7 QBs?

Geno
Wilson
Barkley
Bray
Glennon


After that, you're getting into backup QB level players. I don't even like the last two that much

Austin Ed 12-11-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9200705)
Geno' s flaws: poor footwork, playing in a system which doesn' t require as many reads as he'll have to make in the NFL, inconsistent deep ball, tends to stare down a receiver at times, reluctant to run with the ball when there is an opening, ...

Not as fast as you think. 4.78 40.

O.city 12-11-2012 09:58 PM

Bray, Glennon, Manuel, Thomas are all guys who meet the eye test to a T when evaluating physicality you want in a QB.


It's just that all the other things don't really match up.

O.city 12-11-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin Ed (Post 9201217)
Not as fast as you think. 4.78 40.

This is something I've noticed. He doesn't have elite speed.


But he absolutely has enough speed to do what he needs to do.

Sorter 12-11-2012 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 9201193)
You can probably add the Jets and the Eagles to the list... Foles may get the job. But lets say 6 to be conservative. Who are your top 7 QBs?

Of the guys who will be likely available?

1. Geno
2. Wilson
3. Nassib
4. Barkley
5. Dysert
6. Bray
7. Murray (if he declares)/Glennon

Chief_For_Life58 12-11-2012 10:01 PM

[QUOTE=the Talking Can;9201198]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin Ed (Post 9201175)

ask oklahoma's defense how he played...you can't throw for 4000 yards, 6 ints, at a 70% percent completion rate and have 'problems finding receivers'

i've never seen a guy get killed so bad for one truly bad game - kstate...

he carried the worst defense in college, regularly had to pass on 4th down, had to score 40 to even have a chance to win....and all people do is kill him for not winning a national championship

meanwhile we got people pimping life long choke artists like murray, or guys who have accomplished jack shit like bray...it's crazy

this

O.city 12-11-2012 10:02 PM

I haven't kept up with it exclusively, but someone explain to me what exactly will happen if we take Geno or Wilson at the top of the first round and he does in fact bust?


You can't bang the hot prom queen after prom, if you don't infact go to prom.

Sorter 12-11-2012 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9201234)
I haven't kept up with it exclusively, but someone explain to me what exactly will happen if we take Geno or Wilson at the top of the first round and he does in fact bust?


You can't bang the hot prom queen after prom, if you don't infact go to prom.

Nothing happens. Chances are, even if they bust hard, they're still going to be as productive and likely more so than the QB we've had.

O.city 12-11-2012 10:05 PM

I mean, I realize people want to get good fast.


Whats the quickest way to get good fast? Draft a QB or draft an ILB early.

Chief_For_Life58 12-11-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9201220)
This is something I've noticed. He doesn't have elite speed.


But he absolutely has enough speed to do what he needs to do.

since he didnt grow up with track speed he wouldnt naturally tuck the ball and start running. he grew up evading pressure planting his feet and throwing a dart down field. he has the ceiling to be aaron rodgers. please god make clark draft him

Sorter 12-11-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9201246)
I mean, I realize people want to get good fast.


Whats the quickest way to get good fast? Draft a QB or draft an ILB early.

Drafting a LT after we resign Albert IMO. We still have time to move him to LG.


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