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O.city 04-07-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9567039)
If they liked him so much they would have given him a long term deal.

Maybe they want to see how his back checks out. But there is no denying that franchising a player you don't like at all is a bad/risky move.

Sorter 04-07-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9567006)
They don't believe in Albert you stupid ****. God it's like you have to draw pictures with some people.

You would have drafted JaMarcuss Russell or Vince Young because they are the top rated QB in the draft.

King logic!

Racist

penbrook 04-07-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20 (Post 9567009)
Even if Thomas is that "once in a lifetime prospect that you can plug and play for the next 10+ years"?

Yes because a QB makes the LT better not theTho LT making the qb better.

Example. Would Thomas make Cassell better or would Geno make Albert beter.

keg in kc 04-07-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9567010)
In his defense, it looks like we don't think/want Albert long term. We do seen to want Alex smith long term.

Hard to say. Neither of them has a long-term contract.

A lot of what's gone on with Albert (eg trade rumors) could just be negotiating via the media.

penbrook 04-07-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9567050)
Hard to say. Neither of them has a long-term contract.

A lot of what's gone on with Albert (eg trade rumors) could just be negotiating via the media.

Reid hasnt said anything about Albert so who knows what is going on.

O.city 04-07-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9567050)
Hard to say. Neither of them has a long-term contract.

A lot of what's gone on with Albert (eg trade rumors) could just be negotiating via the media.

Oh I think they're trying to or tried to trade Albert. But I also think they like him quit a bit. If they didnt they wouldn't have tried to trade him or would have taken whatever trade offer they'd have got to get rid of that salary

keg in kc 04-07-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9567057)
Reid hasnt said anything about Albert so who knows what is going on.

Didn't he talk about him during the league meetings? I think I remember some commentary about how he didn't play guys out of position and that he thought albert was a championship-caliber LT.

RunKC 04-07-2013 10:06 PM

I'm going to let the actions of April 25th dissolve this Geno issue.

For as many people on the board who rip people for rationalizing Alex Smith, there are some damn good rationalizers for a QB that's not looked upon very well in a weak class.

That's all I've got to say about that.

keg in kc 04-07-2013 10:07 PM

Ironic statement, since the person that seems to be spending the most time talking about Geno is you.

O.city 04-07-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9567071)
I'm going to let the actions of April 25th dissolve this Geno issue.

For as many people on the board who rip people for rationalizing Alex Smith, there are some damn good rationalizers for a QB that's not looked upon very well in a weak class.

That's all I've got to say about that.

So if the unimaginable happen and they pick him, you'll be pissed?

penbrook 04-07-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9567067)
Didn't he talk about him during the league meetings? I think I remember some commentary about how he didn't play guys out of position and that he thought albert was a championship-caliber LT.

He said Albert was a Pro bowl caliber LT and Dorsey said Albert is the Future LT of this team for years to come.

BossChief 04-07-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9567010)
In his defense, it looks like we don't think/want Albert long term. We do seen to want Alex smith long term.


Therefor, if we are to draft a LT, I'd much rather just trade Albert for what we can and recoup something

We don't know that...in fact, they have said many times that they want Albert here long term.

At first, there was a rumor stating they wanted a 2 for him...then, it changed to a 2 and another pick...then, it was us wanting 2 second rounders for him.

It's ENTIRELY possible that they want keep Albert, but want to sign him after the draft so they can use trade conversations to gauge interest in an OT for draft value reasons.

Andy Reid brought up the McNabb situation as a rebuttal for us not targeting Geno...John Dorsey brought up the Aaron Rodgers situation...then, they raved about how they love his pro day tape and decide to bring him to KC for 2 days.

I still think Joeckel is gonna be the pick, but I also don't think Geno is out of the conversation yet.

ChiefAshhole20 04-07-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9567048)
Yes because a QB makes the LT better not theTho LT making the qb better.

Example. Would Thomas make Cassell better or would Geno make Albert beter.

I agree. I was just using Thomas as a Joeckel substitute and Bradford as a Geno sub. Since both of them can respectfully be considered the "ceiling" for arguments sake on each prospect, which player would benefit this team more? A top LT(Thomas/Joeckel/Fisher) or a good QB(Bradford/Geno)?

O.city 04-07-2013 10:10 PM

I think fisher is the pick if its a LT. Joeckel doesn fit what they seem to be looking for.


Again, I'd rather them target a pass rusher of some kind, or star. I think Star might be the best football player in the whole draft

penbrook 04-07-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20 (Post 9567082)
I agree. I was just using Thomas as a Joeckel substitute and Bradford as a Geno sub. Since both of them can respectfully be considered the "ceiling" for arguments sake on each prospect, which player would benefit this team more? A top LT(Thomas/Joeckel/Fisher) or a good QB(Bradford/Geno)?

QB without a doubt. Qbs have a impact on the team. A LT not so much.


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