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Sweet Daddy Hate 08-31-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9928718)
WHOA WHOA WHOA.......

Hmmmm, you used to destroy me for this view mister.

Glad you came around......

Alex, place holder, wont make mistakes, will groom the qbotf while helping the Chiefs win now, blah blah blah?

Ring a bell mister.....

Not great, average player, great teacher will prolly make a great coach?

lol, how far we have come sweet daddy D

I'm taking the long view. As a Chiefs fan, I've come to embrace it.

Mav 08-31-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9928476)
If Alex Smith was a true legit franchise quarterback, he would have commanded a first round pick and we would have been happy to give it.

But hes not. Hes an average qb with a more than cap friendly contract that lets the team that has him get rid of him at any point after this season for almost nothing. hes a stop gap.

A quality stop gap that while not making turnovers, will also groom the next qb. He is a coach on the field who will be a far better coach going forward than he ever will be as a player.

it was a brilliant move by Dorsey.

Yeah, 2.2 and a probable 2nd next year, to have success now, while grooming the qbotf and the ability to lock up players like Bowe, and possibly Albert going forward seems pretty fair to me.

At least they didn't give him a huge extension right away.

ChiefsCountry 08-31-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Gorilla (Post 9928633)
Look at the teams that needed a QB. All of them were picking in the top 10. They weren't going to get a first. Also, SF had so many draft picks to begin with that they needed to make some cap room. That isn't a realistic post imo.

Bullshit its realistic. Franchise quarterbacks are gold. If Alex Smith was worth a shit he would have gotten a first for him. Trouble was nobody but our dumbasses wanted him.

And SF had to many draft picks is a farce as well, since they traded our pick to get more picks.

Tombstone RJ 08-31-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9928738)
But hes not. Hes an average qb with a more than cap friendly contract that lets the team that has him get rid of him at any point after this season for almost nothing. hes a stop gap.

A quality stop gap that while not making turnovers, will also groom the next qb. He is a coach on the field who will be a far better coach going forward than he ever will be as a player.

it was a brilliant move by Dorsey.

Yeah, 2.2 and a probable 2nd next year, to have success now, while grooming the qbotf and the ability to lock up players like Bowe, and possibly Albert going forward seems pretty fair to me.

At least they didn't give him a huge extension right away.

wait, wut? So Dorsey knows Smith sucks. Tell me, does Reid know this too?

Mav 08-31-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9928775)
wait, wut? So Dorsey knows Smith sucks. Tell me, does Reid know this too?

Where in there did I say sucks?

And are you aware who you are talking to?

Im the biggest Alex Smith homer on the planet.

Rausch 08-31-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9928792)
Where in there did I say sucks?

And are you aware who you are talking to?

Im the biggest Alex Smith homer on the planet.

He is.

It's annoying...

Mav 08-31-2013 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9928799)
He is.

It's annoying...

:deevee:

Tombstone RJ 08-31-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9928792)
Where in there did I say sucks?

And are you aware who you are talking to?

Im the biggest Alex Smith homer on the planet.

you are saying that Dorsey traded away 2 second picks for a "stop gap" QB. But supposedly this team is in a "win now" mode. So, in essence, you are saying Dorsey and Reid do not agree on where this team is headed.

Mav 08-31-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9928867)
you are saying that Dorsey traded away 2 second picks for a "stop gap" QB. But supposedly this team is in a "win now" mode. So, in essence, you are saying Dorsey and Reid do not agree on where this team is headed.

I believe that until he is signed to an extension yes. That is the case. If they were committing to him, then he would of been signed.

Btw, you overly wide sig is ****ing up the page....

Tombstone RJ 08-31-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9929167)
I believe that until he is signed to an extension yes. That is the case. If they were committing to him, then he would of been signed.

Btw, you overly wide sig is ****ing up the page....

the page works fine for me... are you posting from a hand held device or something?

Either way, you are saying kc doesn't really believe in Smith. This of course completely contradicts what Reid says about Alex Smith.

Mav 08-31-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9929179)
the page works fine for me... are you posting from a hand held device or something?

Either way, you are saying kc doesn't really believe in Smith. This of course completely contradicts what Reid says about Alex Smith.

First, I am sure that today Andy Reid believes in Alex Smith. In the very same way that Jim Harbaugh believed in Alex Smith. And I believe he will continue to believe in Alex Smith, until someone else, for instance Tyler Bray emerges and takes the governor off the offense.

Its cool that you seem to have a very high thought of Alex Smith. I do too, just I understand his limitations.

No, im on my computer.

Tombstone RJ 08-31-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 9929193)
First, I am sure that today Andy Reid believes in Alex Smith. In the very same way that Jim Harbaugh believed in Alex Smith. And I believe he will continue to believe in Alex Smith, until someone else, for instance Tyler Bray emerges and takes the governor off the offense.

Its cool that you seem to have a very high thought of Alex Smith. I do too, just I understand his limitations.

No, im on my computer.

Ok, so I shortened the gifs in my signature, hope that helps.

I'm not sure what to think of Smith pairing up with Reid. I just don't see how this matchup works out. As for Bray, I am high on this kid in that I think he's got lots of upside so kudos to kc for snatching him up. Could be the steal of the decade.

Mav 08-31-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9929203)
Ok, so I shortened the gifs in my signature, hope that helps.

I'm not sure what to think of Smith pairing up with Reid. I just don't see how this matchup works out. As for Bray, I am high on this kid in that I think he's got lots of upside so kudos to kc for snatching him up. Could be the steal of the decade.

It did, thank you.

That's where I think many of the Chiefs fans are at. That's where I am at as well.

I saw Alex Smith as a guy to stabilize the qb position while Andy and Dorsey sorted out the rest of the roster because there wasn't a franchise qb to take at 1.1

You don't give your team, or the player a false sense that he isn't the long term future and not at least extend his contract for a couple years like say the Lions did with Stafford this offseason.

That is what gives me pause. Also, cutting Stanzi before the 4th preseason game, and giving all of those reps to Bray was another.

They are committed to the development of Bray. They are not committed to Alex Smith other than this year. He is essentially on two, one year contracts.

That's why I don't stick my neck out there and go full bora bora reerun, "HEZ DA FUTUREZ!!!"

Bray has a hell of a support system around him and all the talent in the world.

Fairplay 08-31-2013 03:25 PM

The replay if the Chiefs/GB game is on ABC right now.

Generally what point in the game should I have my lotion out and Kleenexs at the ready when Bray works his magic?

Mr_Tomahawk 08-31-2013 03:33 PM

Now.


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