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htismaqe 08-14-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 10819029)
That's not true either. There is a lot of double-talking bull**** going on.. and when called on it, the bull****ers are crying "who me? oh no, not me!". To even bother to mention his few mistakes in the playoff game may appear to be innocent in nature... but it's not.. and everyone knows it.. who it's coming from.. and why.

Absolute unequivocal BS. Not everybody that analyzes the game and points out things Alex could do better "hates" him or has an "agenda".

You couldn't be more wrong.

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 10819029)
So to play this particular victim card is disingenuous... and you know better.. but still are trying to play as if you are truly holier than thou and CP's greatest champion for peace and impartiality.

I'm not a victim and I'm not claiming to be. The football discussion on Chiefsplanet is the only victim here. I do get a kick out of your obsession with me though. Almost like your obsession with Alex Smith. Or a 15-year old girl.

Mav 08-14-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10818991)
Most people here, and on most other message boards, root for TEAMS rather than individual players...

Well, and you aren't in this category, but didn't there seem to be some that root against the individual player?

I understand what you are saying.

temper11 08-14-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10819027)
Overdramatic much?

:D

htismaqe 08-14-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10819049)
Well, and you aren't in this category, but didn't there seem to be some that root against the individual player?

I understand what you are saying.

I don't think anybody actually roots against a particular player outside of those that are looking for some kind of validation in their opinion.

The people here that truly hate Alex Smith are more interested in being right than actually hating Alex Smith.

Hammock Parties 08-14-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10819055)
The people here that truly hate Alex Smith are more interested in being right than actually hating Alex Smith.

I KNOW that I am right.

That is WHY I hate him.

THIS WILL ALL END UP IN TEARS.

htismaqe 08-14-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10819059)
I KNOW that I am right.

That is WHY I hate him.

THIS WILL ALL END UP IN TEARS.

:D

Mav 08-14-2014 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10819061)
:D

Your witness.

It is shark week. I casted the troll bait, and voila ......

Sharktroll appears!

temper11 08-14-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10819059)
I KNOW that I am right.

That is WHY I hate him.

THIS WILL ALL END UP IN TEARS.

This year, the Chiefs will be as good as the Oline and Defense allows them to be in my opinion. I don't think Smith is going to come out and sling it all over the field as many here hope that he will do. I think he will stick mostly to what has given him a lot of recent success - playing smart football. I think he will play as conservative or as aggressive as the game dictates. I think there will be marginal improvement with the upgrade to the TE position and the potential upgrade of DAT over McCluster. Jamaal will be Jamaal. Slight improvements or step-backs everywhere else in the skill positions, nothing major.

Offense success will depend on the oline. If the line is folding every play then nothing else matters much. If the offense IS successful, will the defense be successful enough against really tough offensive opponents to translate to wins. Can't wait to find out.

milkman 08-14-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10819031)
You how the "QB whisperer" moniker got started correct?

after the Seattle game people were clamoring that Cassel is the franchise QB, and I said he didn't have mental aspect to succeed in the long run. Then when he started to self destruct, and then I pointed that out again. Then some self aborbed individuals that were emotionally invested in Matt started to have this bullshit and petty vendetta about a football opinion.

That's bullshit.

The QB Whisperer moniker came into being becaue your dumb ass told us that your dad was a high school QB, so had inside knowledge of the QB position.

Bad Guy called you out for that stupid shit, and coined the QB Whispere moniker.

temper11 08-14-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10819124)
That's bullshit.

The QB Whisperer moniker came into being becaue your dumb ass told us that your dad was a high school QB, so had inside knowledge of the QB position.

Bad Guy called you out for that stupid shit, and coined the QB Whispere moniker.

You guys always amaze me how you remember exactly who said exactly what. I can only remember what I say. :)

milkman 08-14-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 10819094)
This year, the Chiefs will be as good as the Oline and Defense allows them to be in my opinion. I don't think Smith is going to come out and sling it all over the field as many here hope that he will do. I think he will stick mostly to what has given him a lot of recent success - playing smart football. I think he will play as conservative or as aggressive as the game dictates. I think there will be marginal improvement with the upgrade to the TE position and the potential upgrade of DAT over McCluster. Jamaal will be Jamaal. Slight improvements or step-backs everywhere else in the skill positions, nothing major.

Offense success will depend on the oline. If the line is folding every play then nothing else matters much. If the offense IS successful, will the defense be successful enough against really tough offensive opponents to translate to wins. Can't wait to find out.

What you are describing is a playing not to lose approach, which is how I've descibed his play.

We, as Chiefs fansn learned, or should have learned, in the 90s that approach is a certain path to ultimately losing.

temper11 08-14-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10819136)
What you are describing is a playing not to lose approach, which is how I've descibed his play.

We, as Chiefs fansn learned, or should have learned, in the 90s that approach is a certain path to ultimately losing.

I respect that opinion, but he's done a lot of winning recently for someone who is playing not to lose. From my perspective, he takes necessary risks, not unnecessary ones. That isn't playing not to lose, that is playing to win.

Prevent D is playing not to lose. Playing press coverage with a lead, but not jumping routes is playing to win without taking unnecessary risks.

Mav 08-14-2014 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 10819217)
I respect that opinion, but he's done a lot of winning recently for someone who is playing not to lose. From my perspective, he takes necessary risks, not unnecessary ones. That isn't playing not to lose, that is playing to win.

Prevent D is playing not to lose. Playing press coverage with a lead, but not jumping routes is playing to win without taking unnecessary risks.

While what you say is true, if he became just slightly more aggressive he would become a much better qb. That's what a lot of people are saying

temper11 08-14-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10819221)
While what you say is true, if he became just slightly more aggressive he would become a much better qb. That's what a lot of people are saying

More aggressive than what? The first half of the season in which the defense was killing weaker teams, or the second half of the season in which the defense was getting rolled? I thought he played very aggressively through both of the Denver games the San diego game and the playoff game. It was not needed in the Raiders game or the Redskins game. Nor do I think it is unrealistic to believe that the regular season Colts game was a completely watered down offense due to the fact that they didn't want to show their hand in a meaningless game when they were likely to face the same team in a few weeks in the playoffs.

Do you think he was not aggressive enough in the second half of the season?

Pasta Little Brioni 08-14-2014 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10819221)
While what you say is true, if he became just slightly more aggressive he would become a much better qb. That's what a lot of people are saying

The folks knocking him here are not exactly known for being correct on evaluating QBs.


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