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staylor26 07-27-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12338729)
The Chargers are outright ****ing terrible team.

If the Chiefs lose to the Chargers at home on opening day, it'll be 2014 redux.

That's not happening.

Watch out Dane. Apparently, thinking we should and will win games like this makes you a homer.

Discuss Thrower 07-27-2016 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12338695)
The Chiefs barely beat SD at home without Houston last year. We also lost in 2013 when our pass rushers got hurt that game.

If Dee Ford does nothing then we could very well lose that game. That game could literally be riding on him.

I think it's more on the secondary in the first four games of the season than it is on Dee Ford.

Dee Ford's biggest asset is speed, but no speed a pass rusher can muster matters if the QB gets the ball out of his hands less than three and a half seconds.

staylor26 07-27-2016 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12338746)
I think it's more on the secondary in the first four games of the season than it is on Dee Ford.

Dee Ford's biggest asset is speed, but no speed a pass rusher can muster matters if the QB gets the ball out of his hands less than three and a half seconds.

At least the secondary will be better than what we had to start off last year.

Peters/Nelson/Gaines >>> Peters/Gaines/Flemming

jjchieffan 07-27-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12338729)
The Chargers are outright ****ing terrible team.

If the Chiefs lose to the Chargers at home on opening day, it'll be 2014 redux.

That's not happening.

In all fairness, the Chargers were decimated by injuries to key players last year. Rivers is still putting up good numbers. Getting them early and healthy is not the same as beating them last year. I still like our chances, but guys are right to be concerned. With Houston likely out, Rivers is likely licking his chops thinking about exploiting a clean pocket and a young secondary. Let's hope the defense doesn't give him that, because if they do, it's going to be a long game.

RunKC 07-27-2016 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12338729)
The Chargers are outright ****ing terrible team.

If the Chiefs lose to the Chargers at home on opening day, it'll be 2014 redux.

That's not happening.

The Chicago Bears were a terrible team and both Alshon Jeffrey and Kevin White were out that game. I don't even remember the WR they peddled out there that week and we lost after having a big lead at home.

We should beat SD, but if we don't get pressure on a good QB like Rivers, it could result in a loss. Gates, Allen, Woodhead and Benjamin are a good stable of weapons. If Rivers has time to throw then it won't matter what our secondary does.

Andy always has these cluster **** games every year at home that we should win, but lose. In year 1 it was SD. Year 2 it was TEN. Year 3 it was CHI.

DaneMcCloud 07-27-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12338745)
Watch out Dane. Apparently, thinking we should and will win games like this makes you a homer.

Yeah, **** those people.

The Chargers are an AWFUL football team. They don't have a running game, they have one receiver that's worth a shit (when he's healthy), they lost their future TE to Pittsburgh and their offensive line is shit.

Their starting center is out indefinitely, their secondary sucks and their overall defense is crap. They're a 4-12, 5-11 team at best. Oh, and their #3 overall (soon to be bust) draft choice isn't even signed.

But they're going to come into Arrowhead on opening day and beat the Chiefs.

Said no one with a brain, ever.

rico 07-27-2016 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12338745)
Watch out Dane. Apparently, thinking we should and will win games like this makes you a homer.

I think the Chiefs should win this game. So you are calling me a homer??!?!? **** you!!! You can go **** yourself!!!! RAAAAHHHHHHHRRRRRRR!!!!

staylor26 07-27-2016 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12338801)
The Chicago Bears were a terrible team and both Alshon Jeffrey and Kevin White were out that game. I don't even remember the WR they peddled out there that week and we lost after having a big lead at home.

We should beat SD, but if we don't get pressure on a good QB like Rivers, it could result in a loss. Gates, Allen, Woodhead and Benjamin are a good stable of weapons. If Rivers has time to throw then it won't matter what our secondary does.

Andy always has these cluster **** games every year at home that we should win, but lose. In year 1 it was SD. Year 2 it was TEN. Year 3 it was CHI.

I understand that Houston being out concerns you, but Hali/Ford on the outside and Howard/Poe/Bailey on the inside is still good enough to get a consistent pass rush.

Poe is in a contract year and I fully expect him to have his most productive year yet as a pass rusher.

DaneMcCloud 07-27-2016 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12338801)
The Chicago Bears were a terrible team and both Alshon Jeffrey and Kevin White were out that game. I don't even remember the WR they peddled out there that week and we lost after having a big lead at home.

The Chiefs had no identity, a completely jacked up offensive line, lost their best running back and had zero confidence.

If that happens in game one of the 2016 season, not only will I be shocked but it means their season is already in jeopardy.

RunKC 07-27-2016 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12338844)
The Chiefs had no identity, a completely jacked up offensive line, lost their best running back and had zero confidence.

If that happens in game one of the 2016 season, not only will I be shocked but it means their season is already in jeopardy.

This team has struggled against good QB's in the past when Houston was injured

14-3 lead vs SD 2013. Houston hurt. Result: 41-38 L
28 point lead vs IND 2013. Houston can't play hardly any snaps 2nd half. Result: 44-45 L
Brady not even touched and completes 3rd and long after 3rd and long. No Houston. Result: L
Barely beat SD last year without Houston.

We need Dee Ford to break out. I'm sure as hell not counting solely on the DL and an old LB with knee problems to put the heat on Rivers consistently.

DaneMcCloud 07-27-2016 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12338877)
This team has struggled against good QB's in the past when Houston was injured

14-3 lead vs SD 2013. Houston hurt. Result: 41-38 L
28 point lead vs IND 2013. Houston can't play hardly any snaps 2nd half. Result: 44-45 L
Brady not even touched and completes 3rd and long after 3rd and long. No Houston. Result: L
Barely beat SD last year without Houston.

We need Dee Ford to break out. I'm sure as hell not counting solely on the DL and an old LB with knee problems to put the heat on Rivers consistently.

2013 does not equal 2016.

It's a very, very different team.

staylor26 07-27-2016 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12338887)
2013 does not equal 2016.

It's a very, very different team.

Exactly, lets just ignore that we won 6 straight without him last year (and could've won 7+ if Maclin, Charles, Ware, Morse, and everybody else were healthy).

But Dee Ford is going to make or break our week 1 home game against the ****ing Chargers.

I think people are really underestimating our offense potentially stepping up and winning some games for us this year, especially early on.

RunKC 07-27-2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12338894)
Exactly, lets just ignore that we won 6 straight without him last year (and could've won 7+ if Maclin, Charles, Ware, Morse, and everybody else were healthy).

But Dee Ford is going to make or break our week 1 home game against the ****ing Chargers.

I think people are really underestimating our offense potentially stepping up and winning some games for us this year, especially early on.

That's the point. Derek Carr, JFF, Brian Hoyer and Jimmy Clausen are not Rivers, who we barely beat without Houston. It's a proven FACT that this team has struggled against good QB's without him, thus the need for Ford to step up.

staylor26 07-27-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12338898)
That's the point. Derek Carr, JFF, Brian Hoyer and Jimmy Clausen are not Rivers, who we barely beat without Houston. It's a proven FACT that this team has struggled against good QB's without him, thus the need for Ford to step up.

We held the Chargers to 3 pts. Dee Ford was easily the MVP of the game.

We didn't barely beat them because Houston was out. We barely beat them because we put up 10 ****ing pts.

The Broncos barely beat the Chargers in week 17 with their SB defense and the division on the line. It's a division rivalry game. Shit happens.

:facepalm:

Chiefshrink 07-27-2016 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12335119)
**** anyone who adds Eric Berry to that list.

Screw anybody who messes our cap up not getting near the play for the $$ signed for.


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