I follow him on his instagram and the guys been working out like crazy since the season ended. He wants to be great.

I love what this guy brings to the front 7, but 2 down run stuffers usually have a market of roughly $4 million a year for their services.

We are in the nickel roughly 65% of the time or more. If we're up against a good passing team, then that's like 80% of the time. It really doesn't make sense to pay Howard, Bailey and Logan big $$ and have one or even 2 of those guys off the field a lot. You have Chris Jones, who is has to be a starter in both normal formation and nickel, then you have all 3 of these paid vets for 1 spot.

So we're overpaying for depth? Maybe bc of what happened last year? Why not just cut Bailey or Howard and bring back Reyes back on a small deal?

Has the HOF QB. Doesn't need those. KC on the other hand...

Chris Jones needs to be on the field as much as possible. Also, this DL needs to ****ing perform. They were so bad last season when they were all healthy and playing. Run defense needs to get a lot better. They were good in short yardage though.

Worse than bad, they were disinterested.

It showed from the first snap of the first pre-season game. Howard looked like he was mailing it in because he didn't get paid like he thought he should, Poe looked like he was saving himself for something (damn sure wasn't the playoffs) and Bailey just looked like the same Bailey that plateaued 3 years ago.

Their no-show against the Patriots carried right over into the next season and it wasn't until Jones and guys like RNR got a little run that the unit showed any energy at all.

The down linemen were massive disappointments last year. That said, I still don't think the answer is overpaying another DL.

May not be the answer. Just hope they find replacements for these bums. I'm over this DL with the exception of Jones and RNR. Like you said, they were the fire on the DL. The others were purely a disaster.

We're going to do something stupid like draft a defensive linemen in the 1st, let him ride the bench for most of the year and then let Howard/Logan walk next offseason. Can't ****ing wait.

No way. That's not where the value will be at 27. It will be QB, RB, ILB, or OLB. I do expect us to go DL on day 2 though.

Not that anything can excuse the 1 yr 8 mil deal.. if it's accurate... but this was a good article on Logan vs Poe..

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/3...as-city-chiefs

Patriots top 10 cap hits by position:

1. QB - $14M
2. LT
3. S
4. CB
5. WR
6. TE
7. WR
8. TE
9. S
10. K - $3.9M

Chiefs top 10 cap hits by position:

1. OLB - $22M
2. QB
3. WR
4. LT
5. OLB
6. DT - Logan FWIW
7. ILB
8. RT
9. DE
10. DE - $6M

And just in case you want another kick in the nuts...

Alex Smith's cap hit: $16.9M
Tom Brady's cap hit: $14M

I see where DJLN is coming from. How much $$ have we wasted on expendable players? Colquitt? Tamba? Bray?

Why the **** are any of these guys on the roster? They are expendable. A punter isn't hard to find, get John Simon (Ballard ****ing got him) to take that 3rd spot and Bray is just nothing but wasted $$.

These guys are too loyal to some of the players.

Of course I see where he's coming from but I'm not gona freak out over this yet. I'm hoping this works out in the end and next year doesn't matter when we are playing a young QB on a rookie contract.

Bray isn't making much, considering he's a qb with a big arm. He's the kind of guy you don't mind paying a little, make him look good in the preseason and see if someone will flip you a pick.

If coke head Ryan Mallett can do it, I'm not sure why bray cant.

Frankly, they're cornering themselves into having to pay a qb on a rookie contract.