Some of the draft pundits on twitter are all up in arms over it. Hell, even the over the cap guy is all doom and gloom in 2018 for the chiefs due to high contracts and such.

I don't see any way, barring something crazy like a super bowl win, that Alex and tamba are here next year.

That's a glib response.

The Browns have very good OL coaching. They've failed in many ways but drafting/developing OL talent is not one of them.

This isn't the 'catch all' response it oft is when dealing with former Browns. If the Browns weren't able to make him merely serviceable as opposed to abjectly terrible, there's a very good chance that he just flat sucks.

We shall see.

Another example of a Brown RB failing to hit the hole and run downhill.

I think the Erving reverse-pancake was setting up the defender for a play later in the game. That play would have really gotten blown up if not for the Browns center's chip block.

Seems like the new Browns FO is trying to make the point that the previous regime drated a lot of Dawg-shit.

The writing was on the wall the moment the LDT contract was signed. It was obvious they were preparing for a world without Smith and Hali. I think the Ragland deal suggests that DJ is unlikely to return as well.

There's $42 million that can come off that cap in Smith, Hali, DJ and Reid. If Bailey has a strong, healthy year you'll extend him and reduce that $8 million figure for next season and if he doesn't have a strong, healthy year you'll move on from him.

This team's gonna be fine on the cap next season.

Cleveland's done well in drafting offensive lineman, from Alex Mack to Joe Thomas to Mitch Schwartz and Joel Bitonio.

It's possible that Erving sucks but it's just as possible that he wasn't suited for Hue's offense.

Time will tell.

It looks like both of these trades help the team for now and 2018 specifically.

Zach Fulton is in a contract year. He's likely gone next year, hopefully to a smart team that wants to pay him a decent contract to play C. In reality, Dorsey would have likely drafted that replacement in next years draft with a 4th or 5th anyway.

DJ could be done at any moment and we have plenty of good options to explore, including a would-be first rd pick.

This is going to save us money as well as great depth from small risk moves.

If they do that specific permutation of events they're fine on the cap.

Browns trade Cameron Erving to Chiefs

The Browns weren’t able to trade cornerback Joe Haden, but they have been able to move another player that was on their trading block.

The Browns have traded offensive lineman Cameron Erving to the Chiefs in a deal announced by both teams on Wednesday afternoon. Kansas City will send a 2018 fifth-round pick to Cleveland.

The Browns now have 13 picks in the 2018 draft, including five in the first two rounds and multiple picks in every round other than the third and seventh.

Erving was a 2015 first-round pick by the Browns and spent most of last season as their starting center. He also saw time at guard and was getting time at tackle this summer, but was ticketed for a backup role before reports of their interest in trading him emerged this week.

Erving will likely be in a reserve role for the Chiefs as well and his experience at multiple positions could wind up changing their plans about which other offensive linemen were headed for the 53-man roster. Erving is signed through the 2018 season with salaries of just under $1.3 million and just over $1.7 million.

Erving is the second trade acquisition of the week for the Chiefs. They acquired linebacker Reggie Ragland for a 2019 fourth-round pick in an earlier deal.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ing-to-chiefs/

Well, there's absolutely no way that Hali and Reid are with the Chiefs in 2018 and Reid's unlikely to make the 53 this year.

I could see Parker being gone as well.

I forgot we got into a disagreement about Cooper before LMAO

And yes, he's a Cowboy

Would they have taken the time to ask Mitch Schwartz what his opinion of Erving is, prior to making the trade?

I can only see Parker cut if Murray and/or McQuay are ready to replace him and I don't think McQuay even makes the 53 this year.

That was my initial thought as well.

Why wouldn't they?