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O.city 07-22-2019 02:56 PM

Another issue you'd have is that while you are showing you'll pay guys, you aren't really paying your own guys.

It's kinda whats been the problem with Jones in regards to the Frank Clark deal.

SAUTO 07-22-2019 02:58 PM

Well maybe if they'd have played better as a defense we wouldnt be needing to trade for and sign Frank Clark and sign Mathieu...

RunKC 07-22-2019 03:03 PM

In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.

O.city 07-22-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14358923)
In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.

EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.

Ribbs67 07-22-2019 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14358931)
EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.

1 lock down corner isn't going to be able to take away half the field with us..and the speed we poses now. With all the different formations we run .. he will have to concentrate more on one man running by him. Lots of slant routs will be open. Kelce is going to have a monster year this year.

RunKC 07-22-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14358931)
EHHH I dunno about that.

If theoretically you have a CB that can shut down a side of the field like that, that's pretty damn hard to find. It changes the math.

It's a fun discussion though.

In the old NFL sure, but this isn’t the old NFL where there’s 2 outside WR’s and a slot receiver.

The spread has come to the NFL and teams are lining up with 4 and 5 receivers more than ever before. You realistically need to have a really good slot corner, at least 1 good safety and 1 good coverage backer to defend in this new league.

WhiteWhale 07-22-2019 03:33 PM

yeah, I remember a lot of OTA/Training camp superstars.

O.city 07-22-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14358940)
In the old NFL sure, but this isn’t the old NFL where there’s 2 outside WR’s and a slot receiver.

The spread has come to the NFL and teams are lining up with 4 and 5 receivers more than ever before. You realistically need to have a really good slot corner, at least 1 good safety and 1 good coverage backer to defend in this new league.

It also wouldn't hurt to have a CB who can line up and cover everywhere and be an elite guy at doing it.

Buehler445 07-22-2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14358821)
The only WR that has any real value to extract right now is Tyreek.

To be honest, I’d trade him for Ramsey right now....we’ll, maybe after the opener.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14358923)
In today’s NFL, Tyreek is more valuable than Ramsey.

Think about week 1. Oh hey cool you have Ramsey, but we’re going in an empty formation with 5 receivers, so Ramsey now becomes only 20% effective whereas Tyreek has many different points of value. Out wide, in the slot, out of the backfield and on ST’s.

You can change matchup’s to get Tyreek away from #1 corners.

Agreed. And the difference between Reek and the next guy is larger than the difference between Ramsey and the next guy IMO. Especially in Reids offense.

Dante84 07-22-2019 03:44 PM

Tyreek roasted Ramsey.

O.city 07-22-2019 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14358951)
Agreed. And the difference between Reek and the next guy is larger than the difference between Ramsey and the next guy IMO. Especially in Reids offense.

I think I agree.

My think with Tyreek is just the off field stuff and what is he gonna want in a contract.

crispystl 07-22-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14358904)
You’re much more likely to get Hill at a “discount” than you are Ramsey.

Yup

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Sweet Daddy Hate 07-22-2019 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14358757)
AT ALL.

Period.

Dude will be lucky to see the field, let alone make enough of an impact to be worth any sort of trade compensation.

Welp, you better put your trading brain on patna' cuz the only thing Dieter is fetching is one of those Costco shrink wrap, 10 pack of Pringle's potato chips.

And perhaps a hot dog at the food court!

BossChief 07-22-2019 07:43 PM

Highest paid WR = 18/yr
Highest paid CB = 15/yr

ChiefAshhole1056 07-22-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14358889)
Just depends.

If Hill still wants 20 mil per and they feel uncomfortable doing that now, gotta do something different.

You'd have to pay Ramsey immediately and you don't know him whereas you've got Hill in house etc.

I seriously doubt they'd do it. But if Andy feels like he can get say 80% of Tyreek out of Hardman and they like some of these other young WR's, well....

I’m fascinated by the notion of people assuming Hardman is Reeks replacement. He is a perfect fit for what KC thought they were getting from Reek initially in round 5, when he was just a gadget weapon that could utilize 4.2 speed with end arounds, screens, occasional handoffs, and returns. Reek ended up being a complete surprise in terms of developing into a complete WR where he shocked everyone in terms of being able to become a legitamite WR1.

Hardman is going to be what we saw from Reeks first half of his rookie year. Occasional gadget plays and a return threat. He is not going to develop into a top 3 WR like Reek did and his expectations need to be treated as such.


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