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tonyetony 07-12-2019 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 14345481)
Doesn't fit the overall tone to my ear. But like I said, minor issue. Would be nice to get 4 or 5 more entries from others. Strength in numbers. And for anyone that didn't read Clay's piece, you can submit your outrage :D here:


Tony Berg, the President and Publisher of the KC Star.
[email protected]
[email protected]
Dan Schaub, Corporate Director of Audience Development at McClatchy.
[email protected].
Kevin McClatchy, Chairman of McClatchy.
[email protected]
[email protected].
To voice your concern about what media are allowed access to the Chiefs:
[email protected]
@Ted_Crews
As a consumer, and perhaps a disgruntled one, you have a voice. Perhaps just one, but a babbling brook can easily become a destructive tidal wave if enough streams converge.
Newspapers exist to serve the public, and the truth. When they instead try to serve an agenda, and break the public’s trust, it can, should and is affecting their business.
Tyreek Hill
Kansas City Star
Mcclatchy
Espinal
Lies

Clay W. (name withheld)
WRITTEN BY

Clay W. (name withheld)


But it was Espinal who weaponized a son against his father. Imagine what might have been published if the reverse had been true

Period after true please.

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 02:23 PM
Edits made. Refresh and re-read.

Third Eye 07-12-2019 02:28 PM
You’re right about the screenshot, but I’ve never figured out how to post images from my phone other than as an attachment, and those are annoying.

Last 2:

More interested in defending TV Stations other journalists are categorizing as unethical.

Stations should be lowercase.

If you don’t trust a paper, when they publish anonymous, baseless character assassinations rather than provide a balance, when they attack their readers, when they are incompetent enough in the digital realm to make paywalls flimsier than the border at the American southwest, changes are necessary.

That is one long sentence, but I’ll allow it with a couple modifications. I’d get rid of the first comma after paper, and I’d get rid of the comma after readers and say “when they themselves aren’t competent enough...”. It makes it more clear what your clauses are.

DJ's left nut 07-12-2019 02:29 PM
Note to Clay: I'm a terrible editor and rarely read for grammar/punctuation unless it jumps out at me. Worse still, nobody really writes like I do so I have a tendency to criticize for stylistic changes rather than substantive ones. I welcome anyone to ignore all of those - my voice is mine, your voice is yours.

So take any of my PM suggestions with a grain of salt. Otherwise, good work - hope you get plenty of eyes on it because there's a lot there that needs to be said outside of this forum.

Third Eye 07-12-2019 02:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 14345502)
You’re right about the screenshot, but I’ve never figured out how to post images from my phone other than as an attachment, and those are annoying.

Last 2:

More interested in defending TV Stations other journalists are categorizing as unethical.

Stations should be lowercase.

If you don’t trust a paper, when they publish anonymous, baseless character assassinations rather than provide a balance, when they attack their readers, when they are incompetent enough in the digital realm to make paywalls flimsier than the border at the American southwest, changes are necessary.

That is one long sentence, but I’ll allow it with a couple modifications. I’d get rid of the first comma after paper, and I’d get rid of the comma after readers and say “when they themselves aren’t competent enough...”. It makes it more clear what your clauses are.
Actually, a proper rewrite of that clause would be “when they themselves aren’t competent enough... to make paywalls less flimsy than...”

jallmon 07-12-2019 02:31 PM
Sounds to me like the Star wants to suck up to the national liberal media, which is their prerogative (wow, I always thought that was spelled perogative -- ****in' hick).

I would cancel my subscription, but I did that in the 1980s. I can delete Red Zone Extra app and just rely on The Athletic for my Chiefs news. That'll work.

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 02:31 PM
those are separate clauses though

we don't trust them

they publish bullshit

they attack us

they lack digital sense

Third Eye 07-12-2019 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14345515)
those are separate clauses though

we don't trust them

they publish bullshit

they attack us

they lack digital sense
I could accept leaving the last two separate, I just don’t like that many commas in a sentence. The first comma needs to go though.

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 02:37 PM
but those clauses aren't related...

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 02:38 PM
actually i need to say "if" not "when" in all those

got it

pugsnotdrugs19 07-12-2019 02:39 PM
Is Marty dropping some D tonight on these ****sticks?

Hammock Parties 07-12-2019 02:39 PM
It will be Sunday like usual.

chiefzilla1501 07-12-2019 02:42 PM
The star has never had this problem with politicizing social stuff on the Chiefs. That's a new thing. Seems more of a combo of a bad writer, an editorial board too stubborn to admit they're wrong, and a lack of good enough writers to balance the bad with good solid journalism. Seems like the main problem is they went all in backing the wrong horse.

RunKC 07-12-2019 02:47 PM
How hard is it for the Star to do this? This could have been quick and painless.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I rarely do this, but feel it&#39;s important to share this from my <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAthleticKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheAthleticKC</a> chat today. Forgive me for the few typos, as I write pretty fast during the hour to answer every question.<br><br>We as reporters &amp; media personalities in Kansas City must be better. <a href="https://t.co/MfKXGc8Brx">pic.twitter.com/MfKXGc8Brx</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1149716221950070784?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Third Eye 07-12-2019 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14345528)
actually i need to say "if" not "when" in all those

got it
I would still be careful there. The structure of the sentence is:

If you don’t trust a paper when they A, B, or C, then changes are necessary.

I added the “then” to make it a more proper if/then. Looking at it in that structure, you see why you don’t need the first comma. In my previous edit, I combined B and C into a new clause essentially saying “they attack us yet can’t even get their own shit straight”. It’s stylistic for sure. I hate a lot of commas.


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