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Imon Yourside 09-30-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 14491453)
and covering and turning his head is his job....

Right! Which gives me the impression he just doesn't have "it" when IT comes to CB skills because that part of it crucial to the position.

JakeF 09-30-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14490196)
Wards frustrating because he stays with the WR but seems to not understand to turn his head and actually find the ball.

William Bartee agrees with Ward

rabblerouser 09-30-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14491927)
William Bartee agrees with Ward

Bartee never stayed with his receiver. Opposing WRs knew that he was always the quickest route to the end zone, so much that his nickname was 24 Highway.

Pitt Gorilla 09-30-2019 07:17 PM

I feel like many of you have never played defensive back. I’d much rather he not always turn his head while staying with the receiver. The greater issue is turning one’s head and losing the receiver.

And, yes, I get that you demand both.

rabblerouser 09-30-2019 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14491977)
I feel like many of you have never played defensive back. I’d much rather he not always turn his head while staying with the receiver. The greater issue is turning one’s head and losing the receiver.

And, yes, I get that you demand both.

When the receiver's eyes get wide and he reaches for the ball, that's a great time to keep your head on a swivel and look for the ball, to either knock it down or pick the thing off.

And I never did play DB, correct.

BossChief 09-30-2019 07:35 PM

Ward played a good game and was the victim of “a perfect pass beats great coverage” similar to his first start against Russel Wilson.

He didn’t get his head turned as much as I’d like, but he got his hands up and tried to dislodge the ball.

Stafford played the game of his life.

O.city 09-30-2019 07:37 PM

You don’t turn your head and find the ball in man situations

You play the wr and try to use his movements to know when the ball is coming

Titty Meat 09-30-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14492014)
Ward played a good game and was the victim of “a perfect pass beats great coverage” similar to his first start against Russel Wilson.

He didn’t get his head turned as much as I’d like, but he got his hands up and tried to dislodge the ball.

Stafford played the game of his life.

Stafford is a damn good QB. Ward gets beat sometimes, I have no problem with that last touchdown it was a well placed ball however he could have atleast nudged the dude a little bit.

BossChief 09-30-2019 07:49 PM

In a lot of those situations, Ward couldn’t have played it a whole lot better and just got beat by a perfect throw.

Pat does that to the best corners weekly. Those corners aren’t bad, they just got beat by a perfect throw.

BossChief 09-30-2019 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14492042)
Stafford is a damn good QB. Ward gets beat sometimes, I have no problem with that last touchdown it was a well placed ball however he could have atleast nudged the dude a little bit.

I think he did, man.he tried hard for the PBU by taking an arm away with great timing and just got beat.

He’s a young corner that still learning advanced techniques.

He’s a good study that I think will do better as he gains experience. I mean, he doesn’t even have 10 starts yet.

Titty Meat 09-30-2019 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 14492046)
In a lot of those situations, Ward couldn’t have played it a whole lot better and just got beat by a perfect throw.

Pat does that to the best corners weekly. Those corners aren’t bad, they just got beat by a perfect throw.

I think you are being very liberal when it comes to Ward people would use those excuses for Nelson too. If you have perfect coverage you should be able to make a play on the ball. Not all of those completions hes given up have been perfect passes.

KChiefs1 09-30-2019 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14490196)
Wards frustrating because he stays with the WR but seems to not understand to turn his head and actually find the ball.



Can that be trained or coached?

stumppy 09-30-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14492054)
I think you are being very liberal when it comes to Ward people would use those excuses for Nelson too. If you have perfect coverage you should be able to make a play on the ball. Not all of those completions hes given up have been perfect passes.

Yup, also his new nickname is 'The Burn Ward".

KChiefs1 09-30-2019 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14491417)
Can he turn his head at all? I mean Ward can have blanket coverage and still give up big plays because his head doesn't move at all.


It’s a confidence issue in my opinion.

neech 09-30-2019 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 14491977)
I feel like many of you have never played defensive back. I’d much rather he not always turn his head while staying with the receiver. The greater issue is turning one’s head and losing the receiver.

And, yes, I get that you demand both.

I thought most of CP did play that position in school.


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