Remember when CP bitched about who tf is Fenton and everyone called him a scrub before the season even started. Now he’s our starting slot CB and did really good last year

Here is something interesting, there is some speculation that Javon Kinlaw is going to fall like a rock on draft day.

Apparently some teams have limited medicals that say he has bad knees and a bad hip and they question how long his career will be. With how tough medicals are this year and how things go someone will have to have some faith to take him...means he could very easily fall as some GM's won't be willing to do that.

Well, he's not a physical WR and he's slim, which at age 24 indicates his body is maxed out.

Tyrann Mathieu is your starting slot CB...

I remember Chiefs fans and CP bitching about the Chiefs drafts for 20+ years, regardless of who was chosen.

I fully think that Kenneth Murray is a Dallas Cowboy.

I would be allover that shit, but I think that's I sure hope he drops to our slot talk.

I’m talking about a guy that can start if there’s an injury like Claiborne last year.

Then start in 2021.

I agree that I’m taking Queen or Murray at 32 if they’re there. That’s not even a question.

I’m just talking about Brown and Hamilton not keeping us from drafting a CB at 32.

Hes our starting SS.... hell with the amount of snaps Sorensen played last year he’s technically a starter as well

Murray, Smith and Vander Esch? Christ. That’s overkill.

They don't do a lot of smart things....

Cowboys I have basically as it's either Kenneth Murray or secondary and the CB's are likely to not be what they want and they probably think they can go safety in the second.

CBS did a mock draft and they have Murray and Queen both landing in the second round. They had the Cowboys taking Fulton because they need a CB

Fenton remains just the damndest thing.

Like...he SUCKED in camp. Never heard anything positive. And was awful in pre-season.

What the hell kind of Grays Sports Almanac shit does Veach have tucked away somewhere that told him "this guy was unheralded and terrible every time he was on the field during the pre-season...but you should totally hold onto him anyway because he's going to make important plays late in the year..."?

That's one of those things that makes me wonder if some front office folks don't have a better feel for actual coachability than others. So much of the rest of it is available on tape or can be crunched in numbers. The paradox of skill has taken over in the NFL draft so a lot of this stuff comes down to luck anymore.

But in the margins, some guys may simply have a better handle on how well certain prospects adapt to coaching. Or maybe it's the coaching staff that saw it.

But the Fenton thing will always be something that just makes no damn sense to me. Because you could put Charvarius Ward opposite Tremon Smith in the Seahawks game, see Ward get beat up and still walk away going "okay, there's something there with Ward but Smith sucks..." It's not like you have to see great play to recognize potential and sometimes degrees of suck are demonstrative in their own right.

But...when the hell did Fenton demonstrate that potential?

That's why they get paid the big bucks, I s'pose...

**** I’m slipping.

Even better to prove my point though.

Don't see them pulling that, after Okudah and Henderson there is a sizable drop in talent at CB, Murray is highly thought of, high character and Sean Lee is on his last legs.