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Prison Bitch 04-19-2021 11:32 AM

It’s encouraging to see AB has finally found a way to contribute.

tk13 04-19-2021 12:05 PM

Weird factoid in the super early Boston/Chicago game today. White Sox new DH Yermin Mercedes just got brought in to pitch the 7th. He has never played a position in the field before today, so his first defensive appearance as an MLB player is at pitcher. That's going to be a trivia question one day.

Prison Bitch 04-19-2021 12:09 PM

FG projections

Pre season: 78-84, 9.7% playoffs
Now: 80-82, 17.9% playoffs


“You can’t win a division in April, but you can lose it”

TomBarndtsTwin 04-19-2021 12:22 PM

I’d honestly just like to see the team go .500. That would be the top end of my expectations. Anything beyond that would be gravy.

Woogieman 04-19-2021 12:25 PM

As I was listening to the post-game shoe on the radio yesterday, I found it amazing that a few callers were discussing paths to the playoffs :rolleyes:. Excitement is good, but should be mixed with 2 parts reality.

Can Dozier, Soler, and Benintendi recapture past glimpses of "goodness"? Can Mondesi play 130 games and hit .280? Will Witt come up and contribute? Will the rotation by mid-july have 1-2 guys that aren't even in KC yet? If a few of these are "yes", then we will be talking playoffs.

petegz28 04-19-2021 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15633908)
Mondesi has future CF written all over him. Super athlete, less wear on the body etc.

Who is this Mondesi you speak of????

sedated 04-19-2021 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 15634516)
Can Dozier, Soler, and Benintendi recapture past glimpses of "goodness"? Can Mondesi play 130 games and hit .280? Will Witt come up and contribute? Will the rotation by mid-july have 1-2 guys that aren't even in KC yet? If a few of these are "yes", then we will be talking playoffs.

They are winning without those, so why are they necessary to continue winning?

Depth may be an issue as the summer goes on, but that also hasn't been an issue yet.

PHOG 04-19-2021 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 15634152)
especially if Fleming gets traded to TOR and they end up playing an unscheduled game here tonight.

Yeah, no shit, it was early. :D TB I meant.

RockChalk 04-19-2021 03:25 PM

ROFL You said it would be interesting

Mama Hip Rockets 04-19-2021 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15634503)
I’d honestly just like to see the team go .500.

So you want them to go below .500 the rest of the way?

TomBarndtsTwin 04-19-2021 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 15634893)
So you want them to go below .500 the rest of the way?

Yes. That was clearly the intent of my last post. :rolleyes:

TomBarndtsTwin 04-19-2021 06:11 PM

Big early season series against the defending AL Champs.

Games getting ready to start.

We gonna do a game thread or just posting here?






Edit: Nevermind

KChiefs1 04-20-2021 09:19 AM

https://theathletic.com/2521640/2021...-making-a-run/

MLB POWER RANKINGS: APRIL 19, 2021

17. Kansas City Royals
Record as of Monday morning: 9-5
Last Power Ranking: 21


Every winter there is some half-conceived team with no real shot of competing but are in that sweet spot of six-to-10 good players for them that gets declared as “fun” by national observers who have no intent to watch this team more than a dozen times in a six-month span. In a similar vein, there is always a solid cadre of veteran free agents who are neither difference-makers nor on the upswings of their career but are productive enough that they deserve a job somewhere, so we can all say “good pickup for the Jacksonville Jamokes” before forgetting where they signed 15 minutes later.

This spring in Kansas City, these two forces have joined up like a Voltron to produce a hot enough start to make them the current kings of the AL Central. The magical area where Kansas and Missouri meet is the only remaining territory where good, non-superstar players over 30 are not immediately fenced for prospects. Thus it’s the only place where Whit Merrifield and Salvador Pérez could be carrying the Royals with monster starts that, you know, probably won’t last. But they’re helping to keep things positive in Kansas City as we all try to suss out if Jakob Junis’ big turnaround is legitimate, and flip-flop on whether to descriptively refer to Brad Keller as the Opening Day starter or a former Rule 5 pick on a start-to-start basis.

Other teams of note:

1. Los Angeles Dodgers
Record as of Monday morning: 13-3
Last Power Ranking: 1

8. Chicago White Sox
Record as of Monday morning: 8-8
Last Power Ranking: 7

9. Minnesota Twins
Record as of Monday morning: 6-8
Last Power Ranking: 5

11. New York Yankees
Record as of Monday morning: 5-10
Last Power Ranking: 4

13. St. Louis Cardinals
Record as of Monday morning: 7-8
Last Power Ranking: 10

19. Cleveland Indians
Record as of Monday morning: 8-7
Last Power Ranking: 16

27. Detroit Tigers
Record as of Monday morning: 6-10
Last Power Ranking: 26

30. Colorado Rockies
Record as of Monday morning: 4-12
Last Power Ranking: 28

ChiefsCountry 04-20-2021 09:46 AM

Kind of ironic one of the last times it snowed during baseball season was in May 2013. Guess who the opponent was for the Royals that night - Tampa Bay.

RealSNR 04-20-2021 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15635819)
https://theathletic.com/2521640/2021...-making-a-run/

MLB POWER RANKINGS: APRIL 19, 2021

17. Kansas City Royals
Record as of Monday morning: 9-5
Last Power Ranking: 21


Every winter there is some half-conceived team with no real shot of competing but are in that sweet spot of six-to-10 good players for them that gets declared as “fun” by national observers who have no intent to watch this team more than a dozen times in a six-month span. In a similar vein, there is always a solid cadre of veteran free agents who are neither difference-makers nor on the upswings of their career but are productive enough that they deserve a job somewhere, so we can all say “good pickup for the Jacksonville Jamokes” before forgetting where they signed 15 minutes later.

This spring in Kansas City, these two forces have joined up like a Voltron to produce a hot enough start to make them the current kings of the AL Central. The magical area where Kansas and Missouri meet is the only remaining territory where good, non-superstar players over 30 are not immediately fenced for prospects. Thus it’s the only place where Whit Merrifield and Salvador Pérez could be carrying the Royals with monster starts that, you know, probably won’t last. But they’re helping to keep things positive in Kansas City as we all try to suss out if Jakob Junis’ big turnaround is legitimate, and flip-flop on whether to descriptively refer to Brad Keller as the Opening Day starter or a former Rule 5 pick on a start-to-start basis.

Other teams of note:

1. Los Angeles Dodgers
Record as of Monday morning: 13-3
Last Power Ranking: 1

8. Chicago White Sox
Record as of Monday morning: 8-8
Last Power Ranking: 7

9. Minnesota Twins
Record as of Monday morning: 6-8
Last Power Ranking: 5

11. New York Yankees
Record as of Monday morning: 5-10
Last Power Ranking: 4

13. St. Louis Cardinals
Record as of Monday morning: 7-8
Last Power Ranking: 10

19. Cleveland Indians
Record as of Monday morning: 8-7
Last Power Ranking: 16

27. Detroit Tigers
Record as of Monday morning: 6-10
Last Power Ranking: 26

30. Colorado Rockies
Record as of Monday morning: 4-12
Last Power Ranking: 28

Not saying the Royals are a playoff team or anything like that, but come on, man. This writer should give us at least a LITTLE credit. Not even a damn "good job" or anything.

He probably had the Royals ranked around 17 during the spring of 2015. "Can't trust a team who went only a few games above .500 and got hot in the playoffs when they have no experience. Nothing elite. No stars. All of their success we WILL see regress, because it's not sustainable, yadda yadda"

duncan_idaho 04-20-2021 10:05 AM

I, for one, appreciate the Royals stand against trading established, really good players for any prospects they can get.

Teams are hoarding prospects like never before. Remember when Nico Hoerner was “too much” to give up for Merrifield STRAIGHT UP?

That dude actually kind of sucks.

It’s easy to say “trade em” but nearly impossible to find a team willing to trade actual prospects of value.

Chiefspants 04-20-2021 10:17 AM

Yeah, imagine this team without Whit and Salvy ROFL

Those two are now central for our hopes of contention next year.

tk13 04-20-2021 10:45 AM

Who knows how the season will progress, but I don't know why there's reason to believe that Whit and Salvy can't continue what they're doing right now. Their numbers aren't astronomically great or anything, except for Salvy's power numbers maybe, but he's been a different hitter last year, this spring and so far this season.

The real question is can Dozier, Soler and Benintendi get going a little bit.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-20-2021 10:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nahhh I think actions always speak louder than words �� <a href="https://t.co/OkilMGgwN5">https://t.co/OkilMGgwN5</a></p>&mdash; Tom Brady (@TomBrady) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1384544984695721987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sure-Oz 04-20-2021 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15635975)
Nahhh I think actions always speak louder than words �� https://t.co/OkilMGgwN5— Tom Brady (@TomBrady) April 20, 2021

Not surprised he responded. What can you say at this point?

Would love a rematch and super excited that the Chiefs have Mahomes for a longtime.

louie aguiar 04-20-2021 11:00 AM

Did he lose a bet or something?

Sure-Oz 04-20-2021 11:02 AM

@PatrickMahomes: I guess we will see in 20 years... [emoji2375][emoji41] https://twitter.com/tombrady/status/1384544984695721987

Yes Sal lost a bet to brett phillips

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-20-2021 11:04 AM

Mahomes taking shots at Brady!!! That’s my QB!!

BWillie 04-20-2021 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15635888)
I, for one, appreciate the Royals stand against trading established, really good players for any prospects they can get.

Teams are hoarding prospects like never before. Remember when Nico Hoerner was “too much” to give up for Merrifield STRAIGHT UP?

That dude actually kind of sucks.

It’s easy to say “trade em” but nearly impossible to find a team willing to trade actual prospects of value.

I know it's early, but after seeing Benintendi look quite lost at the plate it makes me wish they would have just let Lee have at it instead. So weird how he's turned into a pumpkin since being thought of as one of the rising stars in the game back in 2017.

How does someone look so promising coming out of the gates, turn 24 and regress? He's like the much shittier version of Bryce Harper.

kstater 04-20-2021 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15635965)
Who knows how the season will progress, but I don't know why there's reason to believe that Whit and Salvy can't continue what they're doing right now. Their numbers aren't astronomically great or anything, except for Salvy's power numbers maybe, but he's been a different hitter last year, this spring and so far this season.

The real question is can Dozier, Soler and Benintendi get going a little bit.

Yeah that's the part that got me, picking those two, it's not like Whit has led the league in hits twice or anything.

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kstater 04-20-2021 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15636049)
I know it's early, but after seeing Benintendi look quite lost at the plate it makes me wish they would have just let Lee have at it instead. So weird how he's turned into a pumpkin since being thought of as one of the rising stars in the game back in 2017.



How does someone look so promising coming out of the gates, turn 24 and regress? He's like the much shittier version of Bryce Harper.

I think he'll be ok. The way he griped after getting skull ****ed by the ump for the third time last night made me think he's thinking too much and he'll pull through.

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duncan_idaho 04-20-2021 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15636049)
I know it's early, but after seeing Benintendi look quite lost at the plate it makes me wish they would have just let Lee have at it instead. So weird how he's turned into a pumpkin since being thought of as one of the rising stars in the game back in 2017.

How does someone look so promising coming out of the gates, turn 24 and regress? He's like the much shittier version of Bryce Harper.

Benintendi put on a bunch of muscle to try to hit more HR and lost some of what made him special. He's trying to get back to the lean, explosive guy he once was. I'd rate it inconclusive right now. He wouldn't be the first guy to bulk up and kind of ruin himself (Victor Robles also falls into that category at present - also trying to slim back down and having trouble doing it).

Bryce Harper is an offensive performer who has been 39 percent above average for his career and has never been lower than 11 percent (as a 21-year-old) above average.

Almost every player out there is a shittier version of Bryce Harper. Because he's a superstar.

PurpleJesus28 04-20-2021 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15636178)
Benintendi put on a bunch of muscle to try to hit more HR and lost some of what made him special. He's trying to get back to the lean, explosive guy he once was. I'd rate it inconclusive right now. He wouldn't be the first guy to bulk up and kind of ruin himself (Victor Robles also falls into that category at present - also trying to slim back down and having trouble doing it).

Bryce Harper is an offensive performer who has been 39 percent above average for his career and has never been lower than 11 percent (as a 21-year-old) above average.

Almost every player out there is a shittier version of Bryce Harper. Because he's a superstar.

Haha,good point about Harper.I didnt realize Beni is kind of short,not that it matters i guess.

lewdog 04-20-2021 05:45 PM

I dropped Soler from my fantasy team.

He’s going to explode now.

I did this for all of us!!!

OKchiefs 04-20-2021 06:08 PM

So apparently Mondesi is still possibly a month away, was a 6-8 week injury. Yuck.

lewdog 04-20-2021 06:14 PM

Put more balls in the zone Keller.

:facepalm:

PHOG 04-20-2021 06:17 PM

Tsk tsk. Merrifield

tk13 04-20-2021 06:18 PM

Should have been out of the inning with no damage. Keller's getting ground balls. Just haven't converted.

petegz28 04-20-2021 06:31 PM

Damn it, Whit! Get your head out of your ass! That's twice this game 3 times in the last 2.

PHOG 04-20-2021 06:35 PM

Sharp they're not.

petegz28 04-20-2021 06:45 PM

This is a repeat of last night.....

louie aguiar 04-20-2021 06:46 PM

Ugly first couple innings. Keller wasn’t good but the defense was pretty bad too.

Prison Bitch 04-20-2021 06:48 PM

Keller relies on inducing weird / weak contact. Runs absurd Babips


Not this year. The Magic looks to be gone thus far

TomBarndtsTwin 04-20-2021 06:50 PM

Nice outing, Keller. Nice defense, Whit.

Way to help your team out, guys.


Time to stick Whit back in RF. He’s been sucking it up at 2B. But alas, brokedick Mondesi isn’t around or coming back anytime soon so we don’t even have the option of moving Lopez to 2B. And we know they’re not gonna call up Witt Jr. anytime soon. Frustrating.

PHOG 04-20-2021 06:53 PM

What a shit show so far.

lewdog 04-20-2021 06:53 PM

Woof

Ron Swanson 04-20-2021 06:54 PM

Ridiculous, throw some freaking strikes.

WhawhaWhat 04-20-2021 06:57 PM

If it was July, that was probably a HR for Soler.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-20-2021 06:57 PM

5 runs on 3 hits. That’s pretty damn hard to do.

Well, they are the defending AL Champs. Guess we know where we stand now.

Still a long ways to go . . . . . .

New World Order 04-20-2021 06:59 PM

Here we go Royals here we go!!!!

PHOG 04-20-2021 07:17 PM

That's better, 5-2

lewdog 04-20-2021 07:17 PM

Here we go!

Let’s score faster than Billay with a hog!

smithandrew051 04-20-2021 07:21 PM

This pitcher is *ahem* over the Hill

Coach 04-20-2021 07:21 PM

Make that 5-4.

And I never believed Keller is really that good, to be honest.

PHOG 04-20-2021 07:21 PM

Two more for the good guys, 5-4 nobody out still.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-20-2021 07:59 PM

Defense has been super awesome this series . . . . . . like really . . . . . . just top notch. :facepalm:

Coach 04-20-2021 08:02 PM

Santana gets one back.

ChiefsCountry 04-20-2021 08:03 PM

That's the Santana shot that we always seem to see with the Indians.

Chiefspants 04-20-2021 08:04 PM

No way Salvy just forced a Zobrist like walk

ChiefsCountry 04-20-2021 08:04 PM

Hud must read CP because I just said Santana always killed us from the left.

Coach 04-20-2021 08:17 PM

That's a great AB Dozier.... especially after being in a 0-2 hole.

SupDock 04-20-2021 08:19 PM

****. Big opportunity

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-20-2021 08:20 PM

I’d rather have Dyson playing LF than Benny

lewdog 04-20-2021 08:20 PM

AB is ****ing worthless.

I wish we'd have acquired a box of crab legs instead.

Coach 04-20-2021 08:21 PM

GD IT!

TomBarndtsTwin 04-20-2021 08:21 PM

Nice job, Beni. Guys been wild and all over the place and you swing at the first pitch.

And one at the bottom of the zone, at that. :facepalm:

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-20-2021 08:28 PM

Good God Whit

Coach 04-20-2021 08:31 PM

What in the actual **** are you doing Benintendi?

petegz28 04-20-2021 08:31 PM

this team is ass the last 2 days....

SupDock 04-20-2021 08:31 PM

Terrible

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04-20-2021 08:31 PM

Benny needs to ride the bench

Mama Hip Rockets 04-20-2021 08:37 PM

The Rays are Alex Smithing us to death.

tk13 04-20-2021 08:46 PM

Nicky Lopez is hitting. Up to a .311 average and an OPS over 750.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-20-2021 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15637382)
Nicky Lopez is hitting. Up to a .311 average and an OPS over 750.

And defense to complement his offense.

Too bad the rest of the team forgot how to play defense.

tk13 04-20-2021 09:35 PM

Our newest bullpen arm, Hanser Alberto.

ChiefsCountry 04-20-2021 09:38 PM

Are we going to score 8 here and walk it off lol

Prison Bitch 04-20-2021 09:57 PM

14 runs allowed

Nice pitching

Keller needs an ass reaming

KChiefs1 04-20-2021 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15637344)
What in the actual **** are you doing Benintendi?


I thought all you guys said that was a great trade?

KChiefs1 04-20-2021 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15637348)
Benny needs to ride the bench


Great trade huh?

dlphg9 04-20-2021 10:35 PM

The AB trade really kinda pissed me off. I really liked Khalil Lee and to trade him away for 2 years of AB seemed stupid as ****.

dlphg9 04-20-2021 10:37 PM

When the **** is Mondesi supposed to be back?

sweendog48 04-21-2021 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15637582)
The AB trade really kinda pissed me off. I really liked Khalil Lee and to trade him away for 2 years of AB seemed stupid as ****.

I was rather surprised when they made the trade with Lee involved because he is a left handed hitter with a similar skill set to Benintendi, but a stronger arm and more power and 21 years old and had a high walk rate, so did they just sour on him or was there another factor, and again let me say, I have no idea, this is just a theory or a wild speculative guess, but I remember last year when they said that Metheny gives people books to read and they will give him one back to read and lee gave him a book called, Race Matters. Is it possible that knowing how the Royals value Character and team chemistry and family that they might have thought he could be an issue in there club house and even with the fan base if he is some big social justice warrior type, I mean they see how divisive it is in society, just food for thought.

KChiefs1 04-21-2021 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweendog48 (Post 15637675)
I was rather surprised when they made the trade with Lee involved because he is a left handed hitter with a similar skill set to Benintendi, but a stronger arm and more power and 21 years old and had a high walk rate, so did they just sour on him or was there another factor, and again let me say, I have no idea, this is just a theory or a wild speculative guess, but I remember last year when they said that Metheny gives people books to read and they will give him one back to read and lee gave him a book called, Race Matters. Is it possible that knowing how the Royals value Character and team chemistry and family that they might have thought he could be an issue in there club house and even with the fan base if he is some big social justice warrior type, I mean they see how divisive it is in society, just food for thought.

I always liked Lee too. I haven't seen how he is doing with the Mets but it wouldn't surprise me if he was doing well.

duncan_idaho 04-21-2021 07:56 AM

They got a close look at Lee last year against more advanced arms. You’d like to believe that if they were comfortable moving him, they saw something (or failed to see something) in that up-close look that changed their mind on him. And that they saw something with Benintendi that made them think he’d get back to the player he was in 18.

But if that book swap story is true, I could see that potentially being a reason they decided to move on. Wouldn’t be happy about it from a talent management or social perspective.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-21-2021 07:58 AM

Pitching was not good last night, but defense was atrocious and set up the pitching to fail.

If Royals play solid defense, you can probably take at least 7 runs off the board, they don't go as deep into their bullpen, don't burn so many bullpen arms earlier in the game, etc.

Just a bad all around performance by pitching and defense, but defense set the table last night. Merrifield looks awful at 2B right now, not sure WTF is going on with him.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but we could really use Mondi right now. Too bad he's a brokedick and probably gonna miss like another month. :facepalm:


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