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'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:33 PM

FWIW, the 2007 Cardinals' offense was a crime against humanity.

Frazod 05-26-2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783079)
FWIW, the 2007 Cardinals' offense was a crime against humanity.

And this isn't?

Buck 05-26-2010 10:39 PM

That would be the game.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6783081)
And this isn't?

It is almost 2/3 of a run worse, now that I look at it.

Which is amazing, given that our second most productive hitter in 2007 was Duncan, and we had to rely on callups of Ludwick and Ankiel to provide any pop.

AND ****...

Frazod 05-26-2010 10:39 PM

And there's the winning run.

**** these idiots. I'm going to bed. 4321

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:50 PM

What a shitload of ****.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:51 PM

What a dumb mother****er.

If the left fielder didn't save his ass, that's inside the park.

Miles 05-26-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783089)
It is almost 2/3 of a run worse, now that I look at it.

Which is amazing, given that our second most productive hitter in 2007 was Duncan, and we had to rely on callups of Ludwick and Ankiel to provide any pop.

AND ****...

It is just getting brutal. Every single starting player outside of Freese is under performing at the plate. Many quite badly based on a decent to good history.

Buck 05-26-2010 10:54 PM

Tie Game

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:55 PM

BASE-COCK****ING-HIT!!

**** YOU, BUCK!! MOTHER**** YOU!!!

Buck 05-26-2010 10:55 PM

****ing Durango. This is his first day up too.

Buck 05-26-2010 10:56 PM

What is this 2 out bullshit you guys are pulling?

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783150)
What is this 2 out bullshit you guys are pulling?

I don't know, but I'll ****ing take it.

Maybe it was frazod?

Miles 05-26-2010 10:57 PM

Nice Lopez!

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 10:59 PM

Bell just broke his dick off in Stavinoha.

Buck 05-26-2010 10:59 PM

Well, we have last ups, so hopefully we'll get this. I think Albert is up first next inning.

Miles 05-26-2010 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783166)
Bell just broke his dick off in Stavinoha.

Bell does that. At least with 27 pitches he is done.

BigRedChief 05-26-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783168)
Well, we have last ups, so hopefully we'll get this. I think Albert is up first next inning.

Hasn't been doing much damage lately but he is due to snap out of it and start crushing ball again. This would be a good time.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:06 PM

Holy ****, Motte. Just throw that same pitch 5 more times.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:07 PM

This Durango kid cant hit.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:07 PM

That sorry sonofabitch didn't have a chance.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:10 PM

Awesome.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:10 PM

Man you guys are lucky that our dumbass manager didn't bring in a defensive replacement like he should have in the 9th.

BigRedChief 05-26-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783188)
Holy ****, Motte. Just throw that same pitch 5 more times.

Eckstein can't hit the 98 mph fastball.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:11 PM

I love those Jack Links commercials, but I'd prefer it if we saw Sasquatch actually kill the people ****ing with him.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:12 PM

The Padres have a knack for 16+ inning games, just FYI.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:13 PM

Good God.

I could have done that.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:13 PM

Now they bring in the defensive replacement.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:14 PM

I'll be happy if no team I root for ever signs a guy named Matt to a big money contract.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:15 PM

Shitiful.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783223)
Shitiful.

To be fair, these are the two best pitching staffs in the league. Also two of the lower hitting teams. Not sure what you expected.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:19 PM

Couple that with the largest strike zone I've ever seen in a game.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783227)
To be fair, these are the two best pitching staffs in the league. Also two of the lower hitting teams. Not sure what you expected.

Here's the difference:

Ludwick is a 30+ HR guy
Pujols is a 40+ HR guy and the best hitter in baseball
Holliday should be a 30 HR, .320 guy
Rasmus is probably going to hit .280 with 20-25 bombs this year.

This should be the best offense in the NL behind the Phillies

Buck 05-26-2010 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783239)
Here's the difference:

Ludwick is a 30+ HR guy
Pujols is a 40+ HR guy and the best hitter in baseball
Holliday should be a 30 HR, .320 guy
Rasmus is probably going to hit .280 with 20-25 bombs this year.

This should be the best offense in the NL behind the Phillies

Yeah, but you can rule out the homer in SD.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783242)
Yeah, but you can rule out the homer in SD.

True, but those ****ers+Freese+Yadi+Lopez should be able to string together some hits and find the gaps.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:27 PM

I agree.

This is the most inconsistent strike zone I've seen in a while.

BigRedChief 05-26-2010 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783233)
Couple that with the largest strike zone I've ever seen in a game.

I think that idiot ump has now tightened up his strike zone.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:32 PM

****

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:32 PM

5 tools.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:37 PM

Jesus. Good Game Cards fans

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:39 PM

I'm gonna ****ing kill myself.

Buck 05-26-2010 11:39 PM

Oh man I just yelled so loud.

Miles 05-26-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6783256)
I think that idiot ump has now tightened up his strike zone.

Probably remembered it was the park that produced the 22 inning 2-1 game and it would never end with a huge zone.

BigRedChief 05-26-2010 11:45 PM

11th inning. 1st and 3rd no one out and you get diddly? How can that even happen?

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-26-2010 11:52 PM

Holy Shit, this place is ****ing Yellowstone.

ROFL

Buck 05-26-2010 11:56 PM

The Padres have had the runner on third 6 times and not scored once.

BigRedChief 05-26-2010 11:58 PM

That umpire is now not even calling strikes in the zone.

Buck 05-27-2010 12:00 AM

That one was Petco'd.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:01 AM

That ball was ****ing piss pounded :cuss:

Buck 05-27-2010 12:05 AM

Wow the Strike Zone just grew by 50%

Buck 05-27-2010 12:07 AM

Denorfia’s scramble
from The Hardball Times by Harry Pavlidis

Unless you were up late watching the Padres and the Cardinals Wednesday night, you probably missed a heads-up piece of baserunning. In the bottom of the ninth inning, the Padres asked Will Venable to attempt a sacrifice bunt. He was to move Chris Denorfia (the potential winning run) into scoring position.

He failed. Sort of. It was an ugly bunt, popped-up foul towards the third base dugout. David Freese and Yadier Molina managed to avoid each other, with Freese making the catching before coming to a stumbling stop against the backstop. Meanwhile, Denorfia managed something new to me—he tagged-up and went to second on the play.

It’s be done before. Sort of. Three times I can find in the Gameday era, none in the Major Leagues. In each case, the batter was retired by the catcher, not the third baseman. Close enough.

Thanks to MLBAM, we know Venable and Denorfia join:

2009-04-11
Augusta @ Savannah (Single-A South Atlantic League)
bottom 11, no outs
Jean Luc Blaquiere bunt pops out to catcher Johnny Monell in foul territory. Sean Ratliff to 2nd.

2008-08-30
Peoria @ Kane County (Single-A Midwest League)
top 8, no outs
Nate Samson bunt pops out to catcher Petey Paramore in foul territory. Elvis Lara to 2nd.

2006-09-02
Cedar Rapids @ Kane County
top 8, one out
Bradley Coon bunt pops out to catcher Anthony Recker in foul territory. Josh Davies to 2nd.

BigRedChief 05-27-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783340)
Wow the Strike Zone just grew by 50%

If I've ever saw a worse umpire than this guy I sure can't remember it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6783344)
If I've ever saw a worse umpire than this guy I sure can't remember it.

Eric Gregg, Game 5, 1997 NLCS.

He was giving Livan Hernandez 2 1/2 feet on the outside corner. It was unreal.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:14 AM

God ****.

Miles 05-27-2010 12:15 AM

To add to this shitfest apparently Lohse's injury was legitimate his last start.

From cbssportsline.com

Quote:

Surgery looms for Lohse?: Cardinals SP Kyle Lohse was diagnosed with a rare condition that will likely require surgery, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Lohse met with a hand and wrist specialist in California on Wednesday who determined he is suffering from extreme compartment syndrome, a condition affecting the sheath covering a muscle in his forearm. The disorder is commonly found in motocross riders, but had never been found in a baseball player. "They don't know of any major-league pitcher who has dealt with this before," Lohse said. "We're kind of in uncharted territory here." The only known treatment is surgery.
(Updated 05/27/2010).

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:16 AM

Boggs is a ****ing arsonist, so who knows how long this will last.

Great play by Boog.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 6783354)
To add to this shitfest apparently Lohse's injury was legitimate his last start.

From cbssportsline.com

He probably got it from beating off to the salary figures in his unearned contract.

Buck 05-27-2010 12:19 AM

Awesome.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:19 AM

****ing Jerry Hairston again??

JFC.

As I said, Boggs is a ****ing arsonist.

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:20 AM

God, I hate this team right now.

Buck 05-27-2010 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783363)
****ing Jerry Hairston again??

JFC.

As I said, Boggs is a ****ing arsonist.

Do you happen to know the starting matchup for tomorrow?

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 6783366)
Do you happen to know the starting matchup for tomorrow?

PJ Walters vs. Cy Young

Miles 05-27-2010 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783363)
****ing Jerry Hairston again??

JFC.

As I said, Boggs is a ****ing arsonist.

Wonder if we see him in the rotation soon? Not like Lohse is a big lose or anything but both Boggs and Walters as starters does not exactly make me happy.

Buck 05-27-2010 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783368)
PJ Walters vs. Cy Young

ROFL

Looks like Wade LeBlanc.

Hes doing pretty good this season. Good luck tomorrow.

Buck 05-27-2010 12:29 AM

I know Pujols is strong, but he doesn't have Jerry Hairston Power!

ROFL

'Hamas' Jenkins 05-27-2010 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 6783369)
Wonder if we see him in the rotation soon? Not like Lohse is a big lose or anything but both Boggs and Walters as starters does not exactly make me happy.

Ottavino.

DJ's left nut 05-27-2010 08:55 AM

Just another Koufax/Gibson matchup.

Nah, Petco doesn't create shit baseball at all...

Chief Henry 05-27-2010 09:00 AM

One run in 18 innings of baseball...some one wake me up when this nightmare is over.

DJ's left nut 05-27-2010 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6783188)
Holy ****, Motte. Just throw that same pitch 5 more times.

It takes 2 pitches to know if Motte is going to mow down the side.

If his first pitch is a fastball around 98 thrown for a strike, that's a very good sign.

If his second pitch is a fastball around 98 thrown for a strike, then you can probably just change the channel and come back for the next half-inning because Motte's about to own some bitches.

It's when he goes out there tentatively and guides his fastball that he gets hit. It straightens out (even more) and comes in around 93 and with way too much plate. Then he gets panicky and throws his sorta cutter thing that comes in at around 89...which will also get too much plate. Then he really freaks out and leans on his 82 mph slurvy thing, which will also get bombed.

If he's throwing his heat right, his offspeed stuff will also work because he has faith in it. At that point, lights out.

But last night he could've been bad Motte and still gotten away with it in the park where line drives go to die.

Frazod 05-27-2010 05:30 PM

WE SCORED A RUN!!! WE SCORED A RUN!!! WOW!!!

WE SCORED A RUN!!!!

Frazod 05-27-2010 06:03 PM

Holy shit - Brendan Ryan :eek: just hit a home run in that canyon! :eek:

Frazod 05-27-2010 06:06 PM

And Albert goes deep as well!

Much, much better. :thumb:

BigRedChief 05-27-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6785000)
And Albert goes deep as well!

Much, much better. :thumb:

Upper deck shot too. He's looked a lot better the last couple of games.

Hawksworth had a 97 mph fastball? Is that radar gun reading real?

Frazod 05-27-2010 07:12 PM

BTW, congratulations on your new job/move. :thumb:

Frazod 05-27-2010 07:23 PM

Oh ****, Boggs. :facepalm:

Frazod 05-27-2010 07:58 PM

Too bad Buck didn't go to the first two games. He seems to be good luck for us. :evil:

BigRedChief 05-27-2010 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6785209)
Too bad Buck didn't go to the first two games. He seems to be good luck for us. :evil:

:LOL:

We need Ryan to hit .275 and keep his job so we can keep his defense on the field. That play to end the game is a good example of the value of keeping him on the field.

Bring on the Cubbies!

Frazod 05-28-2010 12:42 PM

Five run first inning - Cubs starter didn't get a single out. :rockon:

Stewie 05-28-2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6786390)
Five run first inning - Cubs starter didn't get a single out. :rockon:

I've been watching this game. Wells had great command of the middle of the plate in the first inning. :doh!:

DJ's left nut 05-28-2010 03:05 PM

Yeah, that's kinda what I'm talking about with Motte.

When his first two pitches were about 113 mph and on the black, I was pretty sure the 8th inning was over even with 2 men on and nobody out.

Dude's absolutely nails when he's on.


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