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The Franchise 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
Seattle just made the Poe pick look good.

SPchief 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
Good job Pete

tk13 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
I was just about to say... I'm surprised no one has reached for a pass rusher yet.

dirk digler 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
lol at Seattle

whoman69 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 8570532)
:spock: Which QB do you think we should have taken?
Turn on your sarcasm meter.

The Franchise 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
The ****ing Jets are going to get Ingram.

sedated 04-26-2012 07:31 PM
I've never watched a draft and wished we'd taken any pick after us.

DeezNutz 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
I would have gladly taken DeCastro over Poe since Hudson is moving to C. We could have taken a comparable NT in round 2.

SPchief 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
Who will they boo?

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570512)
This team decided before this draft, they were taking Poe whether it was at 11 or 20 they were taking him, no trade offers means it's 11.
If Poe is the guy fine. We could have traded back to 15ish and got 2 extra picks.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8570517)
I've read several reports on Poe that say he isn't physical enough to be a NT and project him more as a 5 tech DE. Any thoughts that Poe might be the eventual replacement for Dorsey?
I expect him to play both...Jerrell Powe working in and we'll likely sign a vet NT aswell.

kcpasco 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
Bruce Irvin

Now that's a ****ing reach people. Poe was the best NT available.

tk13 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
It's crazy but I kind of like it. Pass rushers should be evaluated at 1B behind the QB in today's NFL. The Giants have made a living doing it.

Setsuna 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
How does Ingram fall to the Jets? That's terrible. Though they might get Coples.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570552)
If Poe is the guy fine. We could have traded back to 15ish and got 2 extra picks.
When you don't have a trade partner that's hard.

milkman 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8570473)
Within 48 hours 80% of Chief fans will rationalize the pick. KCChiefs will post some clips of Poe getting a sack against Chattanooga and everyone will be happy.
I'll believe it was a stupid pick unless Poe starts to produce on the field.

I won't be rationalizing shit.

the Talking Can 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sedated (Post 8570511)
While I don't agree with your opinion, I will fight to the death for your ability to express it.

DeCastro would have made us as much as an offensive power as a team can be with Cassel at QB.

Instead we threw away the pick on Vernon Gholston part 2.
we almost set a league rushing record with Charles and a bunch of broke dicks

people have such an absurd notion about the importance of the OL...elite skill players and QBs make up for not having first round picks at every position on the line

DaKCMan AP 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Kiper: "Bruce Irvin in the mid first round is mind boggling."

LMAO

DeezNutz 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 8570532)
:spock: Which QB do you think we should have taken?
Moore. He's a winner.

I was definitely not mocking the attempts to justify the high risk-high reward nature of the pick, which is not at all connected to countless discussions of QBs on this board. But since Poe is a DT, it's different.

notorious 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570552)
If Poe is the guy fine. We could have traded back to 15ish and got 2 extra picks.
I am sure Philly would have given up something, and we could have easily got this piece of lazy shit around their pick.

Rausch 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8570513)
**** it....we rolled the dice on a guy who was a nobody in a rec league...

i really didn't give a shit about decastro or koochly...i

think the pick is dumb because this guy has absolutely ****ing zero dominance in a league full of pussies...but i wanted a NT, and got one...

c'est la vie
We went need over BAP...

the Talking Can 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Irvin in the first?

LMAO

LMAO

LMAOLMAO

LMAO

Dylan 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
good take irving -- maybe ingram will still be there at 32

O.city 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
RAC said the phones were dead today.

Brock 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570512)
This team decided before this draft, they were taking Poe whether it was at 11 or 20 they were taking him, no trade offers means it's 11.
This is exactly right.

Rams Fan 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8569729)
Could the Rams have 3 1st's next year?

Would that be the most ever?...
They had 3 in 2001.

All pretty much turned to shit aside from Pickett.

Nightfyre 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Well, at least Seattle just outdid us.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
This team can get a starting guard in the mid rounds no need to do it at 11.

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570560)
When you don't have a trade partner that's hard.
Philly traded up with the team right behind us. How do you know they didn't call the Chiefs?

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8570566)
I am sure Philly would have given up something, and we could have easily got this piece of lazy shit around their pick.
If they really wanted Poe Seattle eluded to that they wanted him...

ChiefMojo 04-26-2012 07:34 PM
Everyone no longer has to cry about us not getting a NT high. Not only that, Pioli and RAC probably feel they got their Wilfork. I hope they are right.

Rausch 04-26-2012 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8570566)
I am sure Philly would have given up something, and we could have easily got this piece of lazy shit around their pick.
It was clear we reached for Jackson. Most thought we reached for Baldwin. Once again we reach for a guy who probably would have been there 10 picks later...

kcxiv 04-26-2012 07:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by notorious (Post 8570566)
I am sure Philly would have given up something, and we could have easily got this piece of lazy shit around their pick.
why, when they got the guy they wanted and traded with the team they wanted. Why would Philly move up another spot when they didnt have too?

OnTheWarpath15 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8570572)
RAC said the phones were dead today.
Funny comment considering there were 5 trades before our pick, and one immediately after.

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
Crennel said not much discussion Poe was there guy.

**** this guy hope he's gone in 2 years.

royr17 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 8570555)
Bruce Irvin

Now that's a ****ing reach people. Poe was the best NT available.
Bruce Irvin is a huge ****ing reach yes, But Poe was only the best NT available based on him being a workout warrior, not based on on field play.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570580)
Philly traded up with the team right behind us. How do you know they didn't call the Chiefs?
That's true, it's possible Pioli felt a team like Seattle would take Poe and didn't wanna move, who knows.

I think the pick is basically an incomplete and bear heavily on the coaching staff.

KurtCobain 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
Can't wait for us to swoop up pick 28 for weeden.

I bet anything he's our two.

ChiefsCountry 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8570562)
we almost set a league rushing record with Charles and a bunch of broke dicks

people have such an absurd notion about the importance of the OL...elite skill players and QBs make up for not having first round picks at every position on the line
Willie Roaf and Will Shields has ****ed this fan base's mind way too much.

notorious 04-26-2012 07:35 PM
**** the JETS.

Sannyasi 04-26-2012 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8570545)
Turn on your sarcasm meter.
I think you managed to miss both of our points, somehow. Well done.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:36 PM
This does speak to Pioli's love of DL though.

stonedstooge 04-26-2012 07:37 PM
Poe's highlight tape that ESPN showed after the pick, on that one play it was hard to tell if the highlight was for the Dude blocking Poe, or for Poe himself

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570600)
That's true, it's possible Pioli felt a team like Seattle would take Poe and didn't wanna move, who knows.

I think the pick is basically an incomplete and bear heavily on the coaching staff.
I hope this isn't because Crennel's dumbass passed up Ngata for Wimbley in Cleveland and said he wouldn't make that mistake again.

Rausch 04-26-2012 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8570604)
Willie Roaf and Will Shields has ****ed this fan base's mind way too much.
They helped make a SB level offense.

You can't blame the offense for a 32 defense...

Frosty 04-26-2012 07:37 PM
Well, Hamas finally gets his very own Vernon Gholston.

tk13 04-26-2012 07:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570613)
This does speak to Pioli's love of DL though.
Both him and Belichick have never had a problem taking DL in the first round, for sure.

notorious 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja (Post 8570592)
why, when they got the guy they wanted and traded with the team they wanted. Why would Philly move up another spot when they didnt have too?
Pioli could have picked up the phone and said,"What do you want to give to get your guy?"


Say yes to just about anything, since Poe is going to be there at least into the 20's.

SPchief 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
Tebow!

DaKCMan AP 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
If billay & roy hate the pick then maybe Poe will turn out to be our answer at NT.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570619)
I hope this isn't because Crennel's dumbass passed up Ngata for Wimbley in Cleveland and said he wouldn't make that mistake again.
I think it's more about a front office that loves defensive linemen.

Chiefnj2 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
That's what you get with the loss of Emery.

notorious 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8570617)
Poe's highlight tape that ESPN showed after the pick, on that one play it was hard to tell if the highlight was for the Dude blocking Poe, or for Poe himself
LOL/

royr17 04-26-2012 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570598)
Crennel said not much discussion Poe was there guy.

**** this guy hope he's gone in 2 years.
As much as I hate this pick, I cant blame Crennel, Poe is the prototype NT that he looks for in his defense, big boy thats hard to move. 6-3, 350 lbs is alot of beef to move. I just hope that he turns out to prove us all wrong and turns into a great NT.

ChiefsCountry 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
Couples to the Jets

DaKCMan AP 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
Jets fans want Ingram... Jets will go Coples. ROFL

Frosty 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8570632)
That's what you get with the loss of Emery.
That's what I'm afraid of. This is looking like 2009

the Talking Can 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
jesus, i don't even care....we're stuck with Cassel and a GM who thinks Cassel is a Franchise QB...


draft every fat piece of PAL league shit you want...I'll root for poe like I would have rooted for a QB...since I will never get to root for a QB

chiefs1111 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
Coples to the Jets

SPchief 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
LMAO

The Dawg 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
A few shockers coming in here..

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8570629)
If billay & roy hate the pick then maybe Poe will turn out to be our answer at NT.
That's funny coming from a guy who just said Baldwin is better than Floyd.

Setsuna 04-26-2012 07:39 PM
Coples...gone. Wow Ingram is now a steal.

stevenidol 04-26-2012 07:40 PM
The greatest Guard of all time is still available.

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevenidol (Post 8570652)
The greatest Guard of all time is still available.
Jay CUtler is praying he'll be a Bear.

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 8570637)
As much as I hate this pick, I cant blame Crennel, Poe is the prototype NT that he looks for in his defense, big boy thats hard to move. 6-3, 350 lbs is alot of beef to move. I just hope that he turns out to prove us all wrong and turns into a great NT.
How many nose tackles have been drafted in the first round with less college production than Poe?

Setsuna 04-26-2012 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570649)
That's funny coming from a guy who just said Baldwin is better than Floyd.
I have to agree. Floyd will be better by miles. He brings more to the table than just a big target.

DaKCMan AP 04-26-2012 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570649)
That's funny coming from a guy who just said Baldwin is better than Floyd.
He is. I watched Baldwin quite a bit in college and he's every bit as good as Floyd with much shittier QBs and surrounding talent, which makes him better IMO. Plus he doesn't have Floyd's injury history.

ChiefsCountry 04-26-2012 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570656)
Jay CUtler is praying he'll be a Bear.
Rieff would be better than DeCastro for Chicago.

Nightfyre 04-26-2012 07:41 PM
so, these fantasy pukes on NFL network are ruining this draft coverage. And they are pretentious douchebags talking about a stupid topic.

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8570661)
I have to agree. Floyd will be better by miles. He brings more to the table than just a big target.
Yeah DaKcman is a huge dumbass his football takes are atrocious. He said Will Muschamp would have Florida in a BCS game so then there's that.

Dylan 04-26-2012 07:42 PM
Jets take Coples

put your clown shoes on - and welcome to the zoo

whoman69 04-26-2012 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8570660)
How many nose tackles have been drafted in the first round with less college production than Poe?
Including your mama?

Mecca 04-26-2012 07:43 PM
Watch us taking Janoris Jenkins in the 2nd.

Brock 04-26-2012 07:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8570622)
They helped make a SB level offense.

You can't blame the offense for a 32 defense...
LMAO ****ing get over it. Guards aren't drafted that high. Ever.

the Talking Can 04-26-2012 07:43 PM
does poe even have a highlight film?

i haven't seen anything that even looked a real highlight

Sannyasi 04-26-2012 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8570565)
Moore. He's a winner.

I was definitely not mocking the attempts to justify the high risk-high reward nature of the pick, which is not at all connected to countless discussions of QBs on this board. But since Poe is a DT, it's different.
Its a stupid argument both times, whether applied to QB or DT.

Bambi 04-26-2012 07:44 PM
I'm sorry but that's a stellar pick for the Jets.

Titty Meat 04-26-2012 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8570677)
Including your mama?
Poor whoman is damaged goods brought by being the subject of one too many Amber alerts.

the Talking Can 04-26-2012 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8570683)
Watch us taking Janoris Jenkins in the 2nd.
**** it, why not?


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