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Rausch 04-23-2019 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223252)
Today it is. In a few years it's going to be a bargain contract.
Good point...

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14223251)
The amount of mental gymnastics cp has done to validate this trades existence LMAO

I'm willing to wager that in an alternate universe where the recipients of both trades were switched, most of CP would be saying the Chiefs took the Seahawks to the cleaners.

Clark is not Macks equivalent. Please stop touting cherry picked stats of 3 seasons. Frank has had 2 seasons of 10 or more sacks, Mack has had 4 straight seasons of it while being the focal point for most offenses. I'm not even going to dive deeper into stats because I shouldn't even have to argue such a stupid ****ing point.

Clark is not bad. He is good, probably in the second tier of rushers in the league. But no matter what you homers say it doesn't change the fact this was a bad negotiation where, when factoring in everything, we get less and they got more. We will lose Hill because of this, a first, and a second. Frank Clark will never be as good as all those things combined, no matter how much bullshit you guys want to feed yourselves.
The mental gymnastics people are attempting to shit allover it is pretty pathetic.

"Why not keep Dee Ford"

"We should have just kept the guy that couldn't ****ing line up properly and cost the entire team a Super Bowl, so we can keep that first round pick and draft a center"

New World Order 04-23-2019 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrick (Post 14223255)
He punched a bitch during training camp as well in that time span ROFL
Now he'll punch another bitch:

Tom Brady

petegz28 04-23-2019 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223247)
Ideally you draft and develop your own so you have cost controlled talent for 4-5 years.
Ideally yes....practically is a little different

Iconic 04-23-2019 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223261)
The mental gymnastics people are attempting to shit allover it is pretty pathetic.

"Why not keep Dee Ford"

"We should have just kept the guy that couldn't ****ing line up properly and cost the entire team a Super Bowl, so we can keep that first round pick and draft a center"
There is an argument to be made regarding Clark but this absolutely isn't it. Anyone using this is reeruned. Frank is a clear upgrade over Ford. No question.

Halfcan 04-23-2019 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14223251)
The amount of mental gymnastics cp has done to validate this trades existence LMAO

I'm willing to wager that in an alternate universe where the recipients of both trades were switched, most of CP would be saying the Chiefs took the Seahawks to the cleaners.

Clark is not Macks equivalent. Please stop touting cherry picked stats of 3 seasons. Frank has had 2 seasons of 10 or more sacks, Mack has had 4 straight seasons of it while being the focal point for most offenses. I'm not even going to dive deeper into stats because I shouldn't even have to argue such a stupid ****ing point.

Clark is not bad. He is good, probably in the second tier of rushers in the league. But no matter what you homers say it doesn't change the fact this was a bad negotiation where, when factoring in everything, we get less and they got more. We will lose Hill because of this, a first, and a second. Frank Clark will never be as good as all those things combined, no matter how much bullshit you guys want to feed yourselves.
So you said stop cherry pick stats...then cherry pick stats-lol

Watch his highlights- it is Not about stats- it is about the relentless, violent way he plays. He slams QB's to the ground, smashes RB's and rides guys five yards out of bounds into the bench.

BlackOp 04-23-2019 07:37 PM
Chiefs got better for 2019...that's all that matters. Hill is still here as is Jones, Fuller, Watkins. They have Mathieu...and no Sutton.

Still have 3 picks in the top 85...and a 1st, 2nd, 3rd next year..

SB or bust...

notorious 04-23-2019 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14223220)
You forgot we also paid 5 times more money (if not more) over #29
Speaking of #29, has he found another team to fleece?

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14223251)
The amount of mental gymnastics cp has done to validate this trades existence LMAO

I'm willing to wager that in an alternate universe where the recipients of both trades were switched, most of CP would be saying the Chiefs took the Seahawks to the cleaners.

Clark is not Macks equivalent. Please stop touting cherry picked stats of 3 seasons. Frank has had 2 seasons of 10 or more sacks, Mack has had 4 straight seasons of it while being the focal point for most offenses. I'm not even going to dive deeper into stats because I shouldn't even have to argue such a stupid ****ing point.

Clark is not bad. He is good, probably in the second tier of rushers in the league. But no matter what you homers say it doesn't change the fact this was a bad negotiation where, when factoring in everything, we get less and they got more. We will lose Hill because of this, a first, and a second. Frank Clark will never be as good as all those things combined, no matter how much bullshit you guys want to feed yourselves.
LMAO We won't 'lose Hill because of this'. If Hill isn't here for the long haul, that decision was made long before this trade ever happened.

petegz28 04-23-2019 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223261)
The mental gymnastics people are attempting to shit allover it is pretty pathetic.

"Why not keep Dee Ford"

"We should have just kept the guy that couldn't ****ing line up properly and cost the entire team a Super Bowl, so we can keep that first round pick and draft a center"
^

pugsnotdrugs19 04-23-2019 07:39 PM
From Nate Taylor’s article.....

“The guy is better than (Jadeveon) Clowney, (Demarcus) Lawrence, (Joey) Bosa,” one source told The Athletic in assessing Clark’s ability. “Only guy better is (Khalil) Mack. He’s the second-best pass-rusher in (the) league.”

FWIW... not saying I believe it myself but Ford and Clark are very different players.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223247)
Ideally you draft and develop your own so you have cost controlled talent for 4-5 years.
Good plan. Clark can destroy the AFC with us while we try to find more of that cost controlled talent

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14223215)
LMAO

Hey you ****ing moron Clark wasnt a free agency acquisition. You cant make this shit up.
Oh look; you got me on a technical! Break out the Champagne!

I had to give you that one because you can't dodge the other and I didn't want to hurt your feelings too bad.

So the question remains( and I'll give you the "dude" version if it will help you come up with an answer ):

When does "we set ourselves up for next year SOOOOOOOOOO rad, bruh"(!) turn in to, "we're going in to the draft with all these picks we amassed, and were going to work a full board, and draft more kickass players than not"(?)

When does that happen, Marcellus?

Does it happen when Mahomes contract is finished and we have no choice but to draft because we can't pay multiple, high dollar acquisitions each year? Or do we just slim our number of FA and trade pickups down to two a year as we clear out our whole lot of picks to do so?

New World Order 04-23-2019 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223261)
The mental gymnastics people are attempting to shit allover it is pretty pathetic.

"Why not keep Dee Ford"

"We should have just kept the guy that couldn't ****ing line up properly and cost the entire team a Super Bowl, so we can keep that first round pick and draft a center"
ROFL

Eleazar 04-23-2019 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14223277)
From Nate Taylor’s article.....

“The guy is better than (Jadeveon) Clowney, (Demarcus) Lawrence, (Joey) Bosa,” one source told The Athletic in assessing Clark’s ability. “Only guy better is (Khalil) Mack. He’s the second-best pass-rusher in (the) league.”

FWIW... not saying I believe it myself but Ford and Clark are very different players.
But muh CP drama queens said he gets paid a lot

petegz28 04-23-2019 07:41 PM
I think it's funny how everyone thinks we would have drafted a player as good as or better than Clark, paid him almost 0$ and when it didn't work out they would be bitching when another team traded for him and we didn't

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 14223268)
There is an argument to be made regarding Clark but this absolutely isn't it. Anyone using this is reeruned. Frank is a clear upgrade over Ford. No question.
There's a group of people that want to shit on literally everything and will twist the narrative any way they can to do it. Like homers, except they're droopy ****s around the clock.

You're not going to find a lot of people that would argue they paid the appropriate price in the trade, but the amount of overpay is overblown and they overpaid for the right situation for once.

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14223277)
From Nate Taylor’s article.....

“The guy is better than (Jadeveon) Clowney, (Demarcus) Lawrence, (Joey) Bosa,” one source told The Athletic in assessing Clark’s ability. “Only guy better is (Khalil) Mack. He’s the second-best pass-rusher in (the) league.”

FWIW... not saying I believe it myself but Ford and Clark are very different players.
Eh. That reads more like a Chiefs tinted fluff piece.

ROYC75 04-23-2019 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14223210)
No matter how you spin it, the Chiefs did not draft Frank Clark. If you can't figure out the difference between a "draft pick" and a "free agency acquisition", then which one of us is amazingly ****ing stupid, Jane?
Are you questing Frank Clark's ability to get drafted " twice" in his career. Are you telling me you question Frank's ability?

:D

Halfcan 04-23-2019 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223289)
There's a group of people that want to shit on literally everything and will twist the narrative any way they can to do it. Like homers, except they're droopy ****s around the clock.

You're not going to find a lot of people that would argue they paid the appropriate price in the trade, but the amount of overpay is overblown and they overpaid for the right situation for once.
Yep, we heard this same shit with Mahomes- we gave up 2 First Rounders!

Who did Buffalo draft with those picks again?

petegz28 04-23-2019 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223289)
There's a group of people that want to shit on literally everything and will twist the narrative any way they can to do it. Like homers, except they're droopy ****s around the clock.

You're not going to find a lot of people that would argue they paid the appropriate price in the trade, but the amount of overpay is overblown and they overpaid for the right situation for once.
And considering none of it is "their" money it's like WTF do you care?

SAUTO 04-23-2019 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14223250)
Houston and Berry disagree. They are still getting paid by us thanks to the stupid moron Dorsey.
Houston already got his for sure.

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14223301)
Yep, we heard this same shit with Mahomes- we gave up 2 First Rounders!

Who did Buffalo draft with those picks again?
Any chance you get to take Tre'Davious White over Patrick Mahomes, buh gawd you've just gotta make that move so that Barnwell will write a flattering review.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223261)
The mental gymnastics people are attempting to shit allover it is pretty pathetic.

"Why not keep Dee Ford"

"We should have just kept the guy that couldn't ****ing line up properly and cost the entire team a Super Bowl, so we can keep that first round pick and draft a center"
ONE idiot advocated for that. Maybe two. You are being intellectually dishonest.

This place cracks me the **** up. I can watch 20 dudes post shit about how Frank Clark is going to "wreck worlds" and then when someone has the "gall" to demand he do so for what was given for him, it becomes "WELL YOU'RE BEING UNREALISTIC, STOP BEING A JERK"!

Nobody ever, and I mean ****ing EVER said that this board lacks for hypocrites and flip-flopping wafflers.

How about pick a position and then stand by it like a man? Is that at all possible here?

Or are you guys just going to circle the wagons every time our shittastic "negotiator" of a GM distracts your brain with a shiny new object?

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-23-2019 07:54 PM
BTW , has Eric Berry been signed by anybody?

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14223318)
ONE idiot advocated for that. Maybe two. You are being intellectually dishonest.

This place cracks me the **** up. I can watch 20 dudes post shit about how Frank Clark is going to "wreck worlds" and then when someone has the "gall" to demand he do so for what was given for him, it becomes "WELL YOU'RE BEING UNREALISTIC, STOP BEING A JERK"!

Nobody ever, and I mean ****ing EVER said that this board lacks for hypocrites and flip-flopping wafflers.

How about pick a position and then stand by it like a man? Is that at all possible here?

Or are you guys just going to circle the wagons every time our shittastic "negotiator" of a GM distracts your brain with a shiny new object?
The wagons of excuses have been vast. Right down to people making shit up just to be a ****. "Dee Ford is a better run Defender" LMAO

I feel the same group of people couldn't help but suck off the Raiders for trading Khalil Mack as they proceeded to go 4-12 while the Bears won the NFC North.

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14223324)
BTW , has Eric Berry been signed by anybody?
Nope. Don't remember him even having a visit.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223274)
LMAO We won't 'lose Hill because of this'. If Hill isn't here for the long haul, that decision was made long before this trade ever happened.
I think that’s probably the plan. Hill’s off the field issues probably made this decision easier for them. The fact that they made a big move for Clark who also has some history but haven’t taken steps to work out a long term deal with Hill says extending Hill probably isn’t in their plans.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14223318)
ONE idiot advocated for that. Maybe two. You are being intellectually dishonest.

This place cracks me the **** up. I can watch 20 dudes post shit about how Frank Clark is going to "wreck worlds" and then when someone has the "gall" to demand he do so for what was given for him, it becomes "WELL YOU'RE BEING UNREALISTIC, STOP BEING A JERK"!

Nobody ever, and I mean ****ing EVER said that this board lacks for hypocrites and flip-flopping wafflers.

How about pick a position and then stand by it like a man? Is that at all possible here?

Or are you guys just going to circle the wagons every time our shittastic "negotiator" of a GM distracts your brain with a shiny new object?
——-> there’s the door

Take your vagina monologues and hit the bricks

Halfcan 04-23-2019 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14223318)
ONE idiot advocated for that. Maybe two. You are being intellectually dishonest.

This place cracks me the **** up. I can watch 20 dudes post shit about how Frank Clark is going to "wreck worlds" and then when someone has the "gall" to demand he do so for what was given for him, it becomes "WELL YOU'RE BEING UNREALISTIC, STOP BEING A JERK"!

Nobody ever, and I mean ****ing EVER said that this board lacks for hypocrites and flip-flopping wafflers.

How about pick a position and then stand by it like a man? Is that at all possible here?

Or are you guys just going to circle the wagons every time our shittastic "negotiator" of a GM distracts your brain with a shiny new object?
If the Chargers, Donks or even Chucky and the Faders pulled off this deal- people would be bitching that Veech sucks- he never makes the Big Trade. But since it is Veech- Oh no we gave up a 1st for a Pro Bowler and the Last pick in the 2nd round next year.

Small price to have a great pass rush and runstopper this year.

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 07:58 PM
If you're that ****in' shaken to the core about how walterfootball will grade the moves your football team made, you know where to find the Colts forum where they're still celebrating what bargains they got.

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 07:59 PM
LMAO Here's some perspective. Since 2015, Clark has only missed 2 games. In that same span, Ford, Houston, and Berry have missed 73.

St. Patty's Fire 04-23-2019 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223326)
The wagons of excuses have been vast. Right down to people making shit up just to be a ****. "Dee Ford is a better run Defender" LMAO

I feel the same group of people couldn't help but suck off the Raiders for trading Khalil Mack as they proceeded to go 4-12 while the Bears won the NFC North.
Please tell me that no one actually said that lmao

petegz28 04-23-2019 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223338)
LMAO Here's some perspective. Since 2015, Clark has only missed 2 games. In that same span, Ford, Houston, and Berry have missed 73.
but but but...the $ and stuff!!!!

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 14223340)
Please tell me that no one actually said that lmao
Yeah that was actually a real life talking point that someone said like maybe a few pages ago, tops. A real life thing.

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223336)
If you're that ****in' shaken to the core about how walterfootball will grade the moves your football team made, you know where to find the Colts forum where they're still celebrating what bargains they got.
Are you trying to say the C minus grade on Mahomes might have been off?

He is an air raid gunslinger that cant read defenses after all.

Chief Northman 04-23-2019 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223338)
LMAO Here's some perspective. Since 2015, Clark has only missed 2 games. In that same span, Ford, Houston, and Berry have missed 73.
My God....

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14223345)
Are you trying to say the C minus grade on Mahomes might have been off?

He is an air raid gunslinger that cant read defenses after all.
One could say that is was off, by a whole heck of a lot.

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223338)
LMAO Here's some perspective. Since 2015, Clark has only missed 2 games. In that same span, Ford, Houston, and Berry have missed 73.
I heard Berry is day to day now...

Eleazar 04-23-2019 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14223338)
LMAO Here's some perspective. Since 2015, Clark has only missed 2 games. In that same span, Ford, Houston, and Berry have missed 73.
Imagine what we could have had if we hadn’t paid those three what they made over that span :shake:

FringeNC 04-23-2019 08:05 PM
Are MLB GM's smarter than NFL GM's or is there something else going on? Trades like these rarely happen anymore in MLB. Only guys that are signed to under market contracts have significant trade value. We effectively paid Clark what we would have made as a free agent.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14223345)
Are you trying to say the C minus grade on Mahomes might have been off?

He is an air raid gunslinger that cant read defenses after all.
that’s one of the smartest things walterfootball has ever written

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14223333)
——-> there’s the door

Take your vagina monologues and hit the bricks
ROFL

CP has a new entry in the Lexicon HOF.

Awesome!

Stryker 04-23-2019 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223289)
There's a group of people that want to shit on literally everything and will twist the narrative any way they can to do it. Like homers, except they're droopy ****s around the clock.

You're not going to find a lot of people that would argue they paid the appropriate price in the trade, but the amount of overpay is overblown and they overpaid for the right situation for once.
Jesus Christ this! For the 29th pick, you get the ultimate 1st round pick that you would never come close to at 29! We needed to build the "D" and we have. What is the problem?? Dare I say this, FC is the second coming of DT This is how awesome this trade is!

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 08:06 PM
16 games. 4 seasons. 3 players. That's 192 games collectively. 73/192 games were missed due to injury.

New World Order 04-23-2019 08:10 PM
https://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/...0/chiefslb.gif

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 14223362)
Jesus Christ this! For the 29th pick, you get the ultimate 1st round pick that you would never come close to at 29! We needed to build the "D" and we have. What is the problem?? Dare I say this, FC is the second coming of DT This is how awesome this trade is!
Maybe they like the soft as marshmallow defenses under Sutton?

Clark can hit guys like we have not had on this team in forever. DT used to hit guys like that...just saying.

Katie 04-23-2019 08:12 PM
Maybe we should wait and see how it works out. If the guy comes in, helps with the run defense and plays balls out, might be worth it.

Iowanian 04-23-2019 08:12 PM
I'm resolved that the likelihood of a day 1 starter at 29 was low. This is a known commodity day 1 starter that when paired with chris jones should apply a lot of pressure on QB. If speaks or another of the contenders can apply any from the other side improve the defense.

**** Dee Ford. Regardless of being hurt and inconsistent he cost the Chiefs a super bowl. I'm glad he's gone. Houston underachieved after he got paid. Glad he's gone too.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaeger Bear (Post 14223379)

Last 3 #29 picks in the NFL Draft :

2016 : Robert Nkemdiche
2017 : David Njoku
2018 : Taven Bryan

Now, I know who 1 of those guys is because of Fantasy Football -- so I am not saying the other two suck, or that all three suck, I just don't know who the **** they are.
Well that's the best goddamn reasoning i ever heard.

Welcome to CP

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:21 PM
Nkemdiche is a bust and Taven Bryan was a giant reach that hasn't done a lot yet

Prison Bitch 04-23-2019 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14223394)
Well that's the best goddamn reasoning i ever heard.

Welcome to CP
Or we can use #31 last year Sony Michel. 936 yards starting 1/2 the games, the. Avg 112 more in their 3 playoff wins.

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14223407)
Or we can use #31 last year Sony Michel. 936 yards starting 1/2 the games, the. Avg 112 more in their 3 playoff wins.
And then everyone could bitch because RB in the first round is terrible value.

Prison Bitch 04-23-2019 08:24 PM
It wasn’t for NE

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14223415)
It wasn’t for NE
Well this is CP, where it's only great if the other team is grabbing their ankles or you're trading for superstar QB Alex Smith.

Chief Roundup 04-23-2019 08:26 PM
Speaks better be showing something this year. Ogbah may not even make this squad.

TambaBerry 04-23-2019 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223404)
Nkemdiche is a bust and Taven Bryan was a giant reach that hasn't done a lot yet
I wouldn't say bust but definitely not a first rounder

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14223418)
I wouldn't say bust but definitely not a first rounder
Nkemdiche is a bust LMAO

tredadda 04-23-2019 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14223282)
But muh CP drama queens said he gets paid a lot
Oh and he cost us future Hall of Famers that we were guaranteed to get with our first rounder this year and the lower of our second rounders next year.

raidersnumber1 04-23-2019 08:28 PM
I told you all, Veach is in over his head.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=199

staylor26 04-23-2019 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14223421)
Nkemdiche is a bust LMAO
He certainly has been, but he did show a little something last year.

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by raidersnumber1 (Post 14223427)
I told you all, Veach is in over his head.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=199
ROFL

Yep, bringing in a guy that threw AFC West QB's around like the little bitches they are is a terrible move.

You smart!

raidersnumber1 04-23-2019 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14223448)
ROFL

Yep, bringing in a guy that threw AFC West QB's around like the little bitches they are is a terrible move.

You smart!
Not for what he gave up.

New World Order 04-23-2019 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by raidersnumber1 (Post 14223450)
Not for what he gave up.
Who are you getting at 29 that's better?

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by raidersnumber1 (Post 14223450)
Not for what he gave up.
I agree... and those stupid Yankees got fleeced when they overpaid for that pitcher- George Ruth too.

Halfcan 04-23-2019 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14223457)
Who are you getting at 29 that's better?
Somebody better than the Faders will end up with for the entire draft.

Faders 2019 - the year of the Draft Bust.

Couch-Potato 04-23-2019 08:43 PM
Any reason to believe that Frank Clark won't be significantly improved playing next to Chris Jones? ...Might be he sees a spike in play quality, which is saying a lot considering he's already considered elite by many around the league

Simply Red 04-23-2019 08:46 PM
did anyone post this?

Pants 04-23-2019 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14221327)
That's a raping and you're a reerun.

This is seriously fireable. It's a panic move from a GM that has shown himself increasingly prone to it.

Hes a hell of a scout and a trash general manager. We have a 1 year window now. Thanks dipshit.
You're not getting anyone better at 29.

I honestly never understood why people value draft picks so much. Most of the time they don't pan out.

If I were a GM, I would trade picks all day long for proven commodities.

I get that rookie contracts are nice, but good players cost money. It is what it is.

KC Hawks 04-23-2019 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14223479)
did anyone post this?
Yeah - but it's always good to see again!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 08:50 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos’ Pro-Bowl slot CB Chris Harris has requested a new contract or a trade, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120880791108476928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In58men 04-23-2019 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14223486)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos’ Pro-Bowl slot CB Chris Harris has requested a new contract or a trade, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120880791108476928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
It’ll be Lonnie Johnson Jr for us fam

Chief Northman 04-23-2019 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14223488)
It’ll be Lonnie Johnson Jr for us fam
Yuck.

Johnson is so overrated.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-23-2019 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14223486)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos’ Pro-Bowl slot CB Chris Harris has requested a new contract or a trade, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120880791108476928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14223488)
It’ll be Lonnie Johnson Jr for us fam
Would the CB from Penn State still be there?

BryanBusby 04-23-2019 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 14223483)
You're not getting anyone better at 29.

I honestly never understood why people value draft picks so much. Most of the time they don't pan out.

If I were a GM, I would trade picks all day long for proven commodities.

I get that rookie contracts are nice, but good players cost money. It is what it is.
When you got a chance to draft a Gabe Carimi, you gotta do it man.

New World Order 04-23-2019 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14223486)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Broncos’ Pro-Bowl slot CB Chris Harris has requested a new contract or a trade, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120880791108476928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Want

Simply Red 04-23-2019 08:55 PM
I bet we still get PP.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14223504)
Want
Problem is we already have a great slot CB in Fuller

Redbled 04-23-2019 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14222901)
Funny to think.....but if Veach lands Thomas......do you think he goes after Clark?

Could you imagine landing Mathieu, Earl Thomas and Frank Clark in the same offseason?

Yes as he wasn't going to pay Thomas much.


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