Still not worth the cost

He ****ing sucks. OP is on point. Dude is barely coming close to sacks.

I've taken to watching him when we're on defense and I have to say: he's a truly ineffective pass rusher. He's got an array of pass rushing moves and legitimately none of them work.

It's actually kind of impressive how bad he is.

Idiots. He's hurt. Name a healthy DE that can catch Watson in the open field.

Why would he have to catch Watson in the open field?

And whether he sucks because he's not a great player or because of injury doesn't matter. At the end of the day, he sucks so far. You don't get extra points for sucking just because you're injured

Lol you're doubling down on this. Just can't admit that you are wrong?

He just did on the TD run by Watson. But I'd bet there isn't a DE in the league that can catch Watson in that situation.


As for whether or not he's a great player, I'd like to see his performance when he's healthy before giving my opinion. Injured he's been the best DL we have on the team.

No.

Do you sell those rose colored glasses you got or are they one of one?

Well Texans are about to put in a backup tackle in the game. Chiefs are going to move Clark around. If he wants to prove his worth, he needs to dominate.

Slower than two 80 year olds ****ing

He won't.

He just isn't very good.

If Dorsey got fired for bad contracts and cap management, Veachy should be shown the door for this dumpster fire of a trade.

Clark clowned by Watson for the TD...

He shouldn’t make it thru tomorrow

LOL at that goal line tackle on Watson.

He got trucked by Deshaun Watson at the goal line ROFL

This trade will make lists in the future for how bad it was. Historic ineptitude by Veach.

So now we can justifiably get rid of this clown and watch him somehow get 3 sacks and play like an allstar against us for some other team.

He’s good if he doesn’t play for this sorry franchise

Can't wait for the Clark has retooled/refocused/learned the scheme/learned how to play football puff pieces to start next season.

I'm sure Staylor will be along soon with an article from Arrowhead Pride telling us that we aren't seeing what we clearly see.

This is not a good football player.

No, he really isnt.

Watch him. I'm watching him most plays and he is just not a good player. Not strong, not agile and not explosive.

He does nothing well on a football field. I'm buying into the PED explanation at this point.

I've seen enough. Frank Clark is useless and we would be so much better off right now had we not got him. Because we would have had a 1st round pick and there were lots of CBs and offensive tackles taken within 10 picks of our pick. We could have spent that money elsewhere, like on some ****ing o-line help or even kept Morse would have been way better.

the Frank Clark trade set us way back.

When we would be significantly better off not getting him, you know it was a huge mistake.

You were right all along, dudes a ****ing hobo

Biggest series of the game and the ****ing scrub starts it on the sideline.

Just doing his job...

Hes not, and he never really was. He isnt in Seattle anymore. That was a good system for a player of his caliber to make plays, then he goes to a poor defensive system with little surrounding talent.

Im not making excuses for him. He really isnt very good, too bad Veach couldnt see that. Veach got fleeced on that trade. He really gave up a lot for nothing.

This trade honestly set us back a few years. We’re probably multiple seasons away from a Super Bowl at this point.

I completely agree. Frank must’ve had the best agent in the league my god.

He runs into blockers on purpose and then stops. I don’t get it. Does he think he’s on the OL?

When can we get rid of this asshole? Can we June 1st him after next season?

I can't ****ing believe we gave up a first and second for him and a huge contract. It's seriously looking like the worst transaction in recent chiefs history. Worse than Cassel.

We can’t june 1st anyone next yr bc the new CBA isn’t done. And when that’s the case that designation goes away the last year of the current CBA

Lol.. I wouldn't go that far.

But it is really, really bad.

I would. We only gave up seconds for Vrabel and Cassel and Cassel's contract wasn't nearly as damning.

It’s still early, but if nothing changes that’s definitely the case. It’d the Houston contract, minus production PLUS losing a 1 and 2

Spags is JAG as a DC, Clark is JAG, Mathieu is JAG. Just a disastrous off season. Moves that not only do nothing for us this year, but severely hamper us in future years.

Cassel wasted four years of prime KC talent. Some of the best this franchise has ever seen. It happened; it's already in the books.

Clark is just a DE. Honestly, even if he was every bit of what was advertised? Does that really change much about this defense? It'd be better, no doubt, but better than absolute garbage doesn't necessarily mean good.

It was a very bad transaction. Veach just didnt overpay for some average/overrated FA talent like random teams do every offseason, he gave up a 1st and a 2nd for the ability to overpay for that average/overrated talent.

When your giving up 1st and 2nd rd draft picks, handing out $105M contracts you usually actually receive some level of an impact player for that type of compensation.

I resisted long enough but the evidence is overwhelming FRANK CLARK does officially suck balls. Veach sucks worse, I hope they don't let him trade away another pick for any reason before he gets canned.

Don't know about that, but the huge contracts to Clark, Hitchens, and Mathieu pretty much guarantee that we have to ride the horse we're on for a few seasons. Need to draft better but have zero faith in Veach who has shown little skill in finding defensive players.

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Dee Ford the speed rusher has a better bull rush than Clark.

Holy crap he sucks. I would make the ****er pick up his check in person after I wiped my ass with it.

Then sit the **** down and KPass gets a chance.

definitely hurt

Frank Clark says the defense has to figure out how to stop the run.

They can cut Hitchens after this year with a post-june cut. They have to eat 4 million.

They can cut Clark after next year post-June. They eat 5 million.

Still. That money is obviously screwing us right now.

LMAO

Then sit the **** down because you’re hurting the team.

The Cassel trade is still worse due to it being QB>DE and we had 4 years of Cassel's ineptitude compared to only 6 games of Clark's.

The Clark trade may go down as the worse trade in the end, but it's not the end yet so I can't agree that it's even on the same level at this point.

Good to know. I can see Hitchens getting launched but not Clark. That's the kind of "bold move" that gets GMs fired (giving away that much draft capital for a bust).

Did he pick that up from a fortune cookie?

No ****ing shit!!

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

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Have you tried tackling? Or not getting swallowed up on your block?

That would be a great start

Thanks Frank.

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It should start by Frank shutting his ****ing mouth. Show me. Words mean nothing. You and your defensive teammates are pussies.

Ill give you that.

We should have kept Houston, traded for Clowney and drafted Rock Ya-Sin.

Releasing Houston to trade for Clark was a mistake big enough to get fired for.

Agreed.

He makes one good play.

“Welp I’m done, earned my money today”

I never understood the hate Houston got by the fandom.

He gets right into the tackles chest and then just stays there. His other move is running 20 feet around the edge and taking himself right out of plays

He hits the tackle then kinda vibrates

I'll spot him the one good play to start the game. It was too bad the refs then called eight straight penalties or whatever. But after that, he was just running around flailing his arms like the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. He was completely ineffective. I'm getting tired of that from a guy who was so ungodly expensive.

Veach is very confident that he's a great judge of talent, and he keeps giving up draft capital for tradeups and very expensive trades like this. He needs to start hitting on some of these soon and or the villagers will begin grabbing torches and pitchforks. With Mahomes, we can just draft guys where our slot is and we'll be fine. No need for Veach to try the double-twist, quadruple flip dismount.

and what are the options if they cut Hitchens this year, its not like they drafted a MLBer worth a salt on this team. There's nothing behind Hitchens but more trash. Are they gonna cut an overpaid guy to sign a new, overpaid guy that stinks?

The Myth That Stank Fart Sucks.

It's going take more than one offseason to fix the OL and DL.

Unless you believe Veach and Reid can trade down collect more picks and hit on every one of them

Never trade high picks for the right to give a huge contract to a player, and don't pimp a player just because he was acquired by a team you like.

Maybe a demotion will light a fire under his ass. If that doesn't simply bury him on the depth chart then cut him.

It's like Kendrell Bell part Duex only worse

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That's a whole lot of wisdom right there!

I think it's been long enough on this.

Frank Clark ****ing sucks ass.

Hitchens is trash. I'd rather just cut our losses, save 8 mil in cap space and move on.

Perfect comparison

Tons of hype, tons of money... all for nothing

Somebody needs to shoot me straight.

How crippling is this contract, and how soon can the Chiefs jettison this turd?

Can cut him after 2020 post-June 1st.

2022 is the earliest. Would incur 10M in dead cap tho

Sigh.

Post-June 1st designation showing 5.2 million in dead money in 2021. We'd save 19 mil in cap space.