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penguinz 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 16708579)
When it happened to Christian Eriksen in the Euros they finished the game the following day , nobody was in an uproar about it.

Eriksen was conscious when leaving the field and everyone knew he was going to be OK.

Not the same situation.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708695)
This isn't about being triggered. I'm not even sure why you would choose to use that word.

Probably because you're projecting.

No, because it's amazing how quickly the situation devolves into blaming the Bills for everything and anything. It's just such clear backlash to the virtue signaling that clearly was out there. There's a middle ground between this vitriol that you all seem to be spewing and the virtue signalers. And that's understanding that it's a bit of an unprecedented situation that may call for some unprecedented measures. If it's not dramatically disadvantaging the Chiefs, who cares?

I was MUCH more upset when the Chiefs were given the Saturday game than I'd be about rescheduling the Bengals/Bills for the following weekend.

You guys are all just circle jerking each other getting more and more riled up. "I heard this from Bills radio!" "I read that on Bills message board!" Blah blah blah.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">most people assume the game CIN-BUF will not be resumed at a later date<br><br>let&#39;s discuss both options, resumed or canceled<br><br>if is canceled:<br><br>standings are calculated on win % (as usual)<br><br>current AFC Standings and win %:<br><br>0.812 - KC (13-3)<br>0.800 - BUF (12-3)<br>0.733 - CIN (11-4)</p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1610663424505319426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ARROW2 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16708727)
Giving all the AFC teams other than Cincy and Buffalo a free bye week while NFC still plays.

Then you have the two AFC teams playing the week before the SB while the NFC team has a bye week.

Superbowl ends up with the AFC on 1 week rest and the NFC with two weeks rest.



That would be some BULLSHIT!

staylor26 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708733)
Bro you are remedial.

Can someone actually point an example of virtue signaling here?

LMAO

2 posts?

Definitely here to troll.

There's been nothing but virtue signaling over this situation.

Balto 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

I mean what other team could just tell the NFL that they are going to not make up week 17 and also not going to play week 18 at all and are ok with the #2 or #3 seed….

Bills could easily go down this path and behind closed doors say to each other, “We can basically get three weeks off here and then play at home for the 1st playoff game”.

It was up in the air anyways if they’d win that game and knock KC out of the #1 seed…..they can just sit back and tell ole Roger that nah we just need more time to rest our bodies errr minds and need weeks off to prepare for the playoffs errr mental health.

RunKC 01-04-2023 09:50 AM

Here’s an idea: cancel the Ravens/Bengals game and Bills/Patriots games and play the Bengals game again this weekend.

Ravens and Patriots can’t win their division and this game would determine playoff seeding

Marcellus 01-04-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16708738)
Yeah, these situations always show just how little some people think about the details below 30k feet while simultaneously being the loudest about how right they are on what should happen.

Giving them 24 hours to reset and telling them the game is on Wednesday or they can take the L is perfectly reasonable.

People keep acting like Hamlin died, he didn't.

DirtMcGirt 01-04-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708695)
This isn't about being triggered. I'm not even sure why you would choose to use that word.

Probably because you're projecting.


You sound pretty triggered in that other post I quoted lol.

Imagine getting that worked up over a football game that didn't involve your team. And imagine thinking that the results of this football game have anything to do with your identity.

I hope you're young enough where you never watched that guy in your avy play, because if you are you've got some serious maturing to do.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16708730)
again, you're cherry picking. I said by tomorrow evening. as did a lot of people over the last few days. first you try and claim.24 hours. then claim I said Wednesday. read what I said. I said by tomorrow. as did a lot of people.

No, you're cherrypicking. I was ****ing responding to 007. Get a clue.

Originally Posted by 007 View Post
They should have finished the game tonight. Period.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-04-2023 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16708638)
Bill's fans are pussies.
<a href="https://ibb.co/sbFhRkM"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/7jGHC86/2023-01-04-9-13-00.jpg" alt="2023-01-04-9-13-00" border="0"></a>

I guess they missed the game thread in which 99% of posts were expressing empathy and thoughts and prayers.

If we were this soft, I guess we could single out the Bills fans chanting "**** the Chiefs" at a game in Cincinnati as proof that they're a toxic fanbase.

Pablo 01-04-2023 09:53 AM

Now we’ve got the table breaking asshole fingerers on here trying to coach us up on life?

**** your soft ass team that doesn’t want to play. Boo ****in hoo. Have fun coming to the Arrowhead Invitational again.

staylor26 01-04-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708741)
No, because it's amazing how quickly the situation devolves into blaming the Bills for everything and anything. It's just such clear backlash to the virtue signaling that clearly was out there. There's a middle ground between this vitriol that you all seem to be spewing and the virtue signalers. And that's understanding that it's a bit of an unprecedented situation that may call for some unprecedented measures. If it's not dramatically disadvantaging the Chiefs, who cares?

I was MUCH more upset when the Chiefs were given the Saturday game than I'd be about rescheduling the Bengals/Bills for the following weekend.

You guys are all just circle jerking each other getting more and more riled up. "I heard this from Bills radio!" "I read that on Bills message board!" Blah blah blah.

Again,

"Football doesn't matter right now"

Ok fine and completely understandable, but you don't get to have it both ways. The Bills are still in the playoffs. No harm, no foul, but when you start trying to do anything and everything to help the Bills in terms of football, then you're trying too hard.

DirtMcGirt 01-04-2023 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16708745)
I mean what other team could just tell the NFL that they are going to not make up week 17 and also not going to play week 18 at all and are ok with the #2 or #3 seed….

Bills could easily go down this path and behind closed doors say to each other, “We can basically get three weeks off here and then play at home for the 1st playoff game”.

It was up in the air anyways if they’d win that game and knock KC out of the #1 seed…..they can just sit back and tell ole Roger that nah we just need more time to rest our bodies errr minds and need weeks off to prepare for the playoffs errr mental health.

You think that's what they're doing?

They're not even preparing for the game this weekend. If the Pats weren't a dumpster fire I'd say they get smoked.

The Bills might be done this year and I can't blame them.

The delusions on this board are insane.

Marcellus 01-04-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708749)
You sound pretty triggered in that other post I quoted lol.

Imagine getting that worked up over a football game that didn't involve your team. And imagine thinking that the results of this football game have anything to do with your identity.

I hope you're young enough where you never watched that guy in your avy play, because if you are you've got some serious maturing to do.

If you are different then why the **** are you even here?

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708726)
I'm gonna leave twitter as twitter because that place is toxic...

But yea, from what I've seen from your fanbase online I've lost complete respect.

I enjoyed the match ups because your team is incredibly talented, I'm one of the few Bills fans who would take Mahomes over Allen, even though I'm grateful to have him given what the Bills have been.

But yea, complete and total lack of class

I think the Bills should offer to forfeit. But all you talking about players and people virtue signaling, I saw one of you say the Bills are trying to use it to their advantage?

You seem solid, but a far more sizeable segment of your fanbase than i feel comfortable with is total trash.

And this is coming from someone who has to deal with Boston sports fans on the regular. You guys have totally beat them in a race to the bottom.

It's so weird how a little bit of winning can totally change fans.

But yea, killed any interest in me ever going to arrowhead or that city.

And if you're not a dick, idk why you'd take offense. But you can see the comments. You guys have been awful, and quite honestly, it's not your team's place to have any involvement in this.

I imagine you guys will end up with home field again. But it's so overstated for you guys. Mahomes can play anywhere, and you guys have shown you can lose at home. Arrowhead is not a fortress lol.

Bills fans can be trash as well. I'm not a fan of their antics on Twitter, I hate the mafia crap. Could you imagine if they called themselves the crips because they wear blue? But somehow the mafia is OK when they were legit killing people and blowing up restaurants in the city in the 80s.

Anyways flame away if you like. Couldn't care less what most of you think given the lack of respect towards life. Like you don't miss any dead people? Never lost someone tragically early? It doesn't make me emotional but it takes me back to a place where I'm sure those guys are still shedding tears from time to time.

That shit will **** with you.

Go **** yourself pussy

ShortRoundChief 01-04-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBaron (Post 16708686)
Also, I seriously doubt Buffalo really wants to go back to Cincy in the next week or so and relive all this again. Obviously, they may have no choice if seedings work out that way to go back for the playoffs, but I can't imagine the mental aspect if they are forced to replay this regular season game.

You know my mother died of cancer in 1992 at St. John's hospital on July 7 in Joplin MO. Her mother volunteered at that same hospital every year until it was hit by the tornado in 2011 every Wednesday. Every Wednesday I would have lunch with her in that cafeteria.

Did I get over that being the place that my mother died? No. Did she? Doubtful.

Did we deal with it, learn to accept it and move on? yes.

This is life 101. Sometimes bad shit happens, especially to good people. It has become abundantly clear that there are a gazillion resources available to these individuals that most people can only dream of to get through these difficult times.

I know they were on TV crying, hell I choked up too. Nobody wants to see a 24 year old kid on the ground receiving CPR for 10 minutes while listening to psycho babble from a dude named Booger, but tell me, would this case even register on your give a shit meter if this was a kid working a chicken ****ing plucking plant at Tyson's who came across a hot wire while standing in water?

The people working alongside that individual would be lucky to get an unpaid break for a few hours and then most likely would do clean up and be right back at it.

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708662)
No one is conflating anything. You can type "I care about Damar" until you're blue in the face. You don't care about some of the people closest to Damar if you're demanding that they have essentially a 24-hour turnaround to play the game OR ELSE.

How many young men have died since Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field? Do you know? And how many of them have you given a second thought to?

"People closest to Damar..." like you're on a first name basis with this guy now. Y'know what? I'd care more if my dog got hit by a car. Or if my kid broke her toe. I have only so much time and capacity for grief to allocate among the evils of the world and no, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I've been up for 48 hours lighting candles for 'Damar' and his loved ones.

And the 'or else' you're putting in all caps here is that they simply take an L. And? Ain't anybody saying to fold the franchise or fire them into the sun. They elected not to play - the 'why' of it shouldn't matter when determining how a massive industry that impacts the tens of thousands of related companies/individuals should conduct itself here.

You make the call and move along. The Bills are ready to play or they aren't. And if they aren't, okay - stay home.

But time and tide waits for no man. Be it Damar Hamlin, Josh Allen, Tyler Bass or Sean McDermott. Nobody is 'demanding OR ELSE' anything. They're simply moving forward. The Bills can join them should they so choose.

TEX 01-04-2023 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16708734)
Nobody is dead moron but I wouldn't expect a Bills fan to be smart enough to get that.

Me either. Jumpjng on too many tables and getting hit in the head with flying dildoes can cause CTE.

Titty Meat 01-04-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708749)
You sound pretty triggered in that other post I quoted lol.

Imagine getting that worked up over a football game that didn't involve your team. And imagine thinking that the results of this football game have anything to do with your identity.

I hope you're young enough where you never watched that guy in your avy play, because if you are you've got some serious maturing to do.

Lots of old guys here who are grown ass man children. Stick around its a hoot

DirtMcGirt 01-04-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16708753)
Now we’ve got the table breaking asshole fingerers on here trying to coach us up on life?

**** your soft ass team that doesn’t want to play. Boo ****in hoo. Have fun coming to the Arrowhead Invitational again.

Lol you didn't even read my post. I'm honestly surprised you can type.

The team has lost for 20 yrs. They win, great, they lose, whatever.

I got my own identity lol. You're pathetic.

Marcellus 01-04-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708755)
You think that's what they're doing?

They're not even preparing for the game this weekend. If the Pats weren't a dumpster fire I'd say they get smoked.

The Bills might be done this year and I can't blame them.

The delusions on this board are insane.

I guess its not just the leadership on the Bills team that's weak, so are the fans.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708719)
If only we could all be as virtuous as Twisted!

So stunning and brave!

Every single one who sucks the penis that is using this situation to show everybody how morally superior they are is pathetic.

It's morally superior to say that they should be able to play a football game, just on a different date! Yes indeed!

You guys are so ****ing soft.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-04-2023 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16708658)
Yea I don't think people understand the logistical nightmare and $ involved in changing all this shit over 1 freaking game.

This isn't 9/11 where the whole league took a week off early in the season.

It's 1 game, there are a couple of really easy options that don't involve changing any games or dates. They need top pull off the band aid and move on.

The problem is the NFL started out this whole thing looking weak and unprepared and continue to give that indication. Shitty leadership yet again.

Let alone fans have bought tickets for games and travel, it's just a cluster **** they didn't play Tuesday night after he was stabilized.

tredadda 01-04-2023 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708662)
No one is conflating anything. You can type "I care about Damar" until you're blue in the face. You don't care about some of the people closest to Damar if you're demanding that they have essentially a 24-hour turnaround to play the game OR ELSE.

Does any other profession in which someone could possibly die allow an entire force to refuse to do their job and then reward them for it? It’s understandable to not play that night or even Tuesday, but they need to play or take the L. They are going to milk this for all it’s worth at the cost of other teams and players. They should not be rewarded because “feelings”. You can still hope and pray for Hamlin’s recovery while not catering to the Bills at the expense of others.

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2023 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16708765)
I guess its not just the leadership on the Bills team that's weak, so are the fans.

Josh Allen is a beta bitch. He let Mahomes, Brady and Rodgers trash talk and walk all over him in that golf tournament. Shows a lot about the Bills right there.

staylor26 01-04-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708749)
You sound pretty triggered in that other post I quoted lol.

Imagine getting that worked up over a football game that didn't involve your team. And imagine thinking that the results of this football game have anything to do with your identity.

I hope you're young enough where you never watched that guy in your avy play, because if you are you've got some serious maturing to do.

Lol go **** yourself.

DirtMcGirt 01-04-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16708763)
Lots of old guys here who are grown ass man children. Stick around its a hoot


Lol I gotta stop.

I get it though. I've seen Bills fans do plenty of really dumb gross things, I get into disagreements all the time because I find a sizeable portion of our fanbase to be racist hicks.

Anyways take care man, you seem like a real one.

I said my piece, I'm not gonna lambast people more.

But maybe I'll come back when actual football is discussed.

I do enjoy the rivalry between the teams on the field, after you guys owning us for the first few meetings they've been some great shoot outs ever since.

I'm not like other Bills fans. 13 seconds rolled off my back like water in the shower. I'm 30, all I know is losing, so just even getting games and moments like that out of the Bills I'm grateful for.

And like I said, i don't get confused like any of this has to do with my life or identity.

Marcellus 01-04-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16708772)
Josh Allen is a beta bitch. He let Mahomes, Brady and Rodgers trash talk and walk all over him in that golf tournament. Shows a lot about the Bills right there.

The NFL should have been very clear on this from the outset, Goodell to no surprise ****ed up yet again and its created this mess.

jerryaldini 01-04-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708726)
I'm gonna leave twitter as twitter because that place is toxic...

But yea, from what I've seen from your fanbase online I've lost complete respect.

I enjoyed the match ups because your team is incredibly talented, I'm one of the few Bills fans who would take Mahomes over Allen, even though I'm grateful to have him given what the Bills have been.

But yea, complete and total lack of class

I think the Bills should offer to forfeit. But all you talking about players and people virtue signaling, I saw one of you say the Bills are trying to use it to their advantage?

You seem solid, but a far more sizeable segment of your fanbase than i feel comfortable with is total trash.

And this is coming from someone who has to deal with Boston sports fans on the regular. You guys have totally beat them in a race to the bottom.

It's so weird how a little bit of winning can totally change fans.

But yea, killed any interest in me ever going to arrowhead or that city.

And if you're not a dick, idk why you'd take offense. But you can see the comments. You guys have been awful, and quite honestly, it's not your team's place to have any involvement in this.

I imagine you guys will end up with home field again. But it's so overstated for you guys. Mahomes can play anywhere, and you guys have shown you can lose at home. Arrowhead is not a fortress lol.

Bills fans can be trash as well. I'm not a fan of their antics on Twitter, I hate the mafia crap. Could you imagine if they called themselves the crips because they wear blue? But somehow the mafia is OK when they were legit killing people and blowing up restaurants in the city in the 80s.

Anyways flame away if you like. Couldn't care less what most of you think given the lack of respect towards life. Like you don't miss any dead people? Never lost someone tragically early? It doesn't make me emotional but it takes me back to a place where I'm sure those guys are still shedding tears from time to time.

That shit will **** with you.

Go to our GameDay thread and start on page 30 where Damar was injured and see the reaction.

Go look at our thread pulling for Damar's recovery with no mentions of football implications.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16708759)
How many young men have died since Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field? Do you know? And how many of them have you given a second thought to?

"People closest to Damar..." like you're on a first name basis with this guy now. Y'know what? I'd care more if my dog got hit by a car. Or if my kid broke her toe. I have only so much time and capacity for grief to allocate among the evils of the world and no, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I've been up for 48 hours lighting candles for 'Damar' and his loved ones.

And the 'or else' you're putting in all caps here is that they simply take an L. And? Ain't anybody saying to fold the franchise or fire them into the sun. They elected not to play - the 'why' of it shouldn't matter when determining how a massive industry that impacts the tens of thousands of related companies/individuals should conduct itself here.

You make the call and move along. The Bills are ready to play or they aren't. And if they aren't, okay - stay home.

But time and tide waits for no man. Be it Damar Hamlin, Josh Allen, Tyler Bass or Sean McDermott. Nobody is 'demanding OR ELSE' anything. They're simply moving forward. The Bills can join them should they so choose.

I have spent little to no time thinking about Damar Hamlin. I can admit to that. I don't know the guy and he doesn't mean much more to me than a lot of other people that you see who suffer major trauma. My uncle died yesterday. Wasn't close with him and didn't give him much thought either.

None of this is virtue signaling. It's merely saying that I have some respect for the people who are close with him and I don't see anything wrong with not forcing a very tight turnaround to play a football game. If it's able to be rescheduled, I'm in favor of that.

And yes, if my dog died, I would definitely care A LOT.

staylor26 01-04-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708767)
It's morally superior to say that they should be able to play a football game, just on a different date! Yes indeed!

You guys are so ****ing soft.

LMAO

You're a nice guy, but a huge ****ing pussy.

"Guys I don't feel right about getting the 1 seed this way"

ROFL

And no, it's morally superior to pretend that people are being heartless because they're holding the Bills to "football doesn't matter right now" instead of letting them have it both ways.

You keep avoiding this blatant hypocrisy.

Balto 01-04-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16708742)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">most people assume the game CIN-BUF will not be resumed at a later date<br><br>let&#39;s discuss both options, resumed or canceled<br><br>if is canceled:<br><br>standings are calculated on win % (as usual)<br><br>current AFC Standings and win %:<br><br>0.812 - KC (13-3)<br>0.800 - BUF (12-3)<br>0.733 - CIN (11-4)</p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1610663424505319426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This would now mean that a tie between KC and Vegas would knock KC out of the #1 seed if Bills beat the Pats. If Bills would have lost vs Bengals a tie would not have mattered. So KC is giving up something by the Bills/Bengals game not counting haha

MahomesMagic 01-04-2023 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708774)
Lol I gotta stop.

I get it though. I've seen Bills fans do plenty of really dumb gross things, I get into disagreements all the time because I find a sizeable portion of our fanbase to be racist hicks.

Anyways take care man, you seem like a real one.

I said my piece, I'm not gonna lambast people more.

But maybe I'll come back when actual football is discussed.

I do enjoy the rivalry between the teams on the field, after you guys owning us for the first few meetings they've been some great shoot outs ever since.

I'm not like other Bills fans. 13 seconds rolled off my back like water in the shower. I'm 30, all I know is losing, so just even getting games and moments like that out of the Bills I'm grateful for.

And like I said, i don't get confused like any of this has to do with my life or identity.

Another dick licks mult?

Titty Meat 01-04-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708774)
Lol I gotta stop.

I get it though. I've seen Bills fans do plenty of really dumb gross things, I get into disagreements all the time because I find a sizeable portion of our fanbase to be racist hicks.

Anyways take care man, you seem like a real one.

I said my piece, I'm not gonna lambast people more.

But maybe I'll come back when actual football is discussed.

I do enjoy the rivalry between the teams on the field, after you guys owning us for the first few meetings they've been some great shoot outs ever since.

I'm not like other Bills fans. 13 seconds rolled off my back like water in the shower. I'm 30, all I know is losing, so just even getting games and moments like that out of the Bills I'm grateful for.

And like I said, i don't get confused like any of this has to do with my life or identity.

Be well ODB. I'm pulling for you guys

ShortRoundChief 01-04-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16708765)
I guess its not just the leadership on the Bills team that's weak, so are the fans.

Kind of odd really for a fan base that calls itself the Mafia.

SupDock 01-04-2023 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16708756)
If you are different then why the **** are you even here?

Virtue signaling, straw man argument . . . Take your pick.

ChiefsCountry 01-04-2023 10:02 AM

It's weird that our two true hated bitter rivals, Broncos and Raiders, we actually get a long great with their fans. I would say the Chargers as well but they have no fans.

SupDock 01-04-2023 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708774)
Lol I gotta stop.

I get it though. I've seen Bills fans do plenty of really dumb gross things, I get into disagreements all the time because I find a sizeable portion of our fanbase to be racist hicks.

Anyways take care man, you seem like a real one.

I said my piece, I'm not gonna lambast people more.

But maybe I'll come back when actual football is discussed.

I do enjoy the rivalry between the teams on the field, after you guys owning us for the first few meetings they've been some great shoot outs ever since.

I'm not like other Bills fans. 13 seconds rolled off my back like water in the shower. I'm 30, all I know is losing, so just even getting games and moments like that out of the Bills I'm grateful for.

And like I said, i don't get confused like any of this has to do with my life or identity.

Mad that people are on to discussing football along with the injury, and is virtue signaling that people have moved on. Also doesn’t want to come back until we are talking Football. Also Football has nothing to do with his life, yet here he is.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708779)
LMAO

You're a nice guy, but a huge ****ing pussy.

"Guys I don't feel right about getting the 1 seed this way"

ROFL

And no, it's morally superior to pretend that people are being heartless because they're holding the Bills to "football doesn't matter right now" instead of letting them have it both ways.

You keep avoiding this blatant hypocrisy.

You keep saying "football doesn't matter right now."

Have I ever said that? Have I ever implied it?

I just think it's a massive ask to get an entire organization to process what just happened and have a relatively quick turnaround to hop on a plane and play a football game.

So give them some more time and let them play the game. And if they're unwilling to do it, give them the forfeit. Please. I would happily take that.

staylor26 01-04-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708790)
You keep saying "football doesn't matter right now."

Have I ever said that? Have I ever implied it?

I just think it's a massive ask to get an entire organization to process what just happened and have a relatively quick turnaround to hop on a plane and play a football game.

So give them some more time and let them play the game. And if they're unwilling to do it, give them the forfeit. Please. I would happily take that.

It's not about you.

It's about the Bills response to resuming the game.

They could've resumed the game this week, and they clearly don't want to. That's fine, but you CAN' T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

Balto 01-04-2023 10:07 AM

I’m also wondering how much pressure Roger is giving to Bills and Bengals ownership behind closed doors.

Would make everything sooooo much easier if Bills just agreed to a forfeit because it would be the “best for the NFL”. Wonder if other owners get involved and give Bills/Bengals a call

DaFace 01-04-2023 10:07 AM

This thread got weird. Not unexpected, but weird.

Eleazar 01-04-2023 10:07 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-dnt="true"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Doctors saw promising signs of progress overnight from Damar Hamlin, who remained hospitalized in critical condition as of Wednesday morning, according to a friend and business partner of the Buffalo Bills safety.<a href="https://t.co/yd90xXvHL1">https://t.co/yd90xXvHL1</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1610668951192608768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 01-04-2023 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708790)
You keep saying "football doesn't matter right now."

Have I ever said that? Have I ever implied it?

I just think it's a massive ask to get an entire organization to process what just happened and have a relatively quick turnaround to hop on a plane and play a football game.

So give them some more time and let them play the game. And if they're unwilling to do it, give them the forfeit. Please. I would happily take that.

You have to have some sort of defined timeframe for this though, right?

It can’t just be an indefinite period of time until the Bills are ready. Is it 1 additional week? 2?

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708791)
It's not about you.

It's about the Bills response to resuming the game.

Okay, so we're back to being on the same page. The game is not being resumed this week. It was too tall a order to get entire organizational buy-in for a quick turnaround to play the football game.

Yes, if you want, you can say, "Well, the letter of law says that's a forfeit" (even though I'm not sure that's necessarily true). Or you can say, "Okay, I understand these are strange circumstances. Here's the contingency plan."

You favor the former; I favor the latter. I can see why you have your position, and I think you can see why I have mine.

I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

We can be friends again, right?

staylor26 01-04-2023 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16708800)
You have to have some sort of defined timeframe for this though, right?

It can’t just be an indefinite period of time until the Bills are ready. Is it 1 additional week? 2?

Yes, and that was Tues-Thur.

That time has clearly passed.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16708800)
You have to have some sort of defined timeframe for this though, right?

It can’t just be an indefinite period of time until the Bills are ready. Is it 1 additional week? 2?

I said earlier in the thread that if the game had been scheduled for, say, Saturday or Sunday of this weekend, that would be enough time.

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 10:13 AM

Oh, and this is something that nobody is EVER going to say.

But many of us have listened to the Kelce podcast and many have also/or listened to some other podcast from current/ex jocks.

Fellas - many of these dudes barely know each other. There are 100+ players/coaches out there. 100 people isn't a large business, but if you work at one of those places, I guarantee you that many of the people in that company don't know the faces/names of every other employee.

And we've talked several times around here about how segmented locker rooms are and thus why leadership at multiple levels is so important. Mahomes is the leader of the offense, but the defense? Guys, he doesn't spend much time with the defense. He's not in the DL room. He's not running drills with those guys.

Damar Hamlin is a late round backup safety who's gotten reps this year due to injuries in the Bills secondary. Do I think a bunch of dudes in the OL room were tight with him? I do not. They spend less time with Hamlin than they do the trainer.

You know why football players/coaches usually call other players by their numbers instead of their names? That'd be why.

These guys are co-workers. Oftentimes co-workers that work completely independently of each other, especially during the season. Sure, he has friends on the team and I'm sure the secondary room is pretty shaken up. But at a point continuing to act like this guy was best buds with everyone on that team and his condition has left them all rudderless and adrift is just silly.

And man, I'm listening to some show yesterday and the idiot reporter tried to make it sound like Higgins and Hamlin had some close bond because "Higgins played at Clemons and Hamlin played at Pitt..."

FFS - this has moved into farce at this point.

Discuss Thrower 01-04-2023 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16708788)
Mad that people are on to discussing football along with the injury, and is virtue signaling that people have moved on. Also doesn’t want to come back until we are talking Football. Also Football has nothing to do with his life, yet here he is.

Real |zach| energy in DirtMcGirt's postings here

DaFace 01-04-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708807)
I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

It's pretty much a staple of modern discourse to make unfounded assumptions about the positions of people you disagree with. ROFL

As far as I know, the Bills themselves haven't said anything at all about what they want to happen. People are basically just arguing against things they read on the internet or hear on the radio. Which is, of course, a super valuable use of one's time.

smithandrew051 01-04-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708808)
Yes, and that was Tues-Thur.

That time has clearly passed.

I agree with that timeframe, but I can see why someone would argue to push the playoffs and have the game resumed after Week 18.

Whatever timeframe is appropriate it needs to be defined immediately and made known to the Bills. For all we know, that has already happened.

This can’t just be an indefinite period that stagnates the entire season.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-04-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtMcGirt (Post 16708774)
Lol I gotta stop.

I get it though. I've seen Bills fans do plenty of really dumb gross things, I get into disagreements all the time because I find a sizeable portion of our fanbase to be racist hicks.

Anyways take care man, you seem like a real one.

I said my piece, I'm not gonna lambast people more.

But maybe I'll come back when actual football is discussed.

I do enjoy the rivalry between the teams on the field, after you guys owning us for the first few meetings they've been some great shoot outs ever since.

I'm not like other Bills fans. 13 seconds rolled off my back like water in the shower. I'm 30, all I know is losing, so just even getting games and moments like that out of the Bills I'm grateful for.

And like I said, i don't get confused like any of this has to do with my life or identity.

Keep telling yourself that, but we all know better, we had our fair share of last minute losses and kickers failing and it didn't roll off like water. Thank God, because win you do win a Superbowl, and you probably will if Josh stays healthy, it makes it that much sweeter.

Also, you need to check yourself, folks on here were overwhelmingly in support of Damar and the Bills, it started to turn when the game wasn't going to be played by Wednesday and twitter and others said we should do the right thing and let the Bills have the #1 seed. Most of us feel you were on your way to an L on Monday and a no contest would be more than fair for the Bills. We are becoming the villian of the NFL with our success, and this will just add to that lore.

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 16708776)
Go to our GameDay thread and start on page 30 where Damar was injured and see the reaction.

Go look at our thread pulling for Damar's recovery with no mentions of football implications.

Or - and hear me out here.


He could go fist his mother.

staylor26 01-04-2023 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708807)
Okay, so we're back to being on the same page. The game is not being resumed this week. It was too tall a order to get entire organizational buy-in for a quick turnaround to play the football game.

Yes, if you want, you can say, "Well, the letter of law says that's a forfeit" (even though I'm not sure that's necessarily true). Or you can say, "Okay, I understand these are strange circumstances. Here's the contingency plan."

You favor the former; I favor the latter. I can see why you have your position, and I think you can see why I have mine.

I just think all of this stuff that's floating around about "the Bills response" etc etc is an echo chamber that so many of yourselves have gotten caught in. And it feels like such an overcorrection to be so upset about it.

We can be friends again, right?

The Bills didn't want to play the game this week. Sounds like they might not even want to play Sunday.

The message is clearly "this is bigger than football".

That's fine, but the show must go on.

If football doesn't matter right now, then there's nothing wrong with the Bills accepting a forfeit (or 2) and getting some time to get their shit together to be ready for the playoffs which they are still in.

Anything else is unnecessarily bending over backwards for a team that has clearly said that football isn't import right now.

And we are always friends!

smithandrew051 01-04-2023 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708809)
I said earlier in the thread that if the game had been scheduled for, say, Saturday or Sunday of this weekend, that would be enough time.

Didn’t see that, but that sounds reasonable enough. Just make it clear to the Bills that the ball is in their court to operate within those parameters.

That may have already happened. We don’t know.

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16708810)
Oh, and this is something that nobody is EVER going to say.

But many of us have listened to the Kelce podcast and many have also/or listened to some other podcast from current/ex jocks.

Fellas - many of these dudes barely know each other. There are 100+ players/coaches out there. 100 people isn't a large business, but if you work at one of those places, I guarantee you that many of the people in that company don't know the faces/names of every other employee.

And we've talked several times around here about how segmented locker rooms are and thus why leadership at multiple levels is so important. Mahomes is the leader of the offense, but the defense? Guys, he doesn't spend much time with the defense. He's not in the DL room. He's not running drills with those guys.

Damar Hamlin is a late round backup safety who's gotten reps this year due to injuries in the Bills secondary. Do I think a bunch of dudes in the OL room were tight with him? I do not. They spend less time with Hamlin than they do the trainer.

You know why football players/coaches usually call other players by their numbers instead of their names? That'd be why.

These guys are co-workers. Oftentimes co-workers that work completely independently of each other, especially during the season. Sure, he has friends on the team and I'm sure the secondary room is pretty shaken up. But at a point continuing to act like this guy was best buds with everyone on that team and his condition has left them all rudderless and adrift is just silly.

And man, I'm listening to some show yesterday and the idiot reporter tried to make it sound like Higgins and Hamlin had some close bond because "Higgins played at Clemons and Hamlin played at Pitt..."

FFS - this has moved into farce at this point.

What kind of shitty strawman argument is this? He wasn't tight with the OL so that changes something? He needed to be close with every guy on the roster for this to have made sense?

Stefan Diggs is crying. Josh Allen looks like someone killed his dog. But he didn't know Mitch Morse that well so the idea that the team was so shaken up is just major exaggeration!

Hammock Parties 01-04-2023 10:17 AM

get women off sports talk shows LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;No one should be playing in Week 18.&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CourtneyRCronin</a> says the NFL should push all games back following Damar Hamlin&#39;s on-field collapse. <a href="https://t.co/04ObqEWDM2">pic.twitter.com/04ObqEWDM2</a></p>&mdash; Around the Horn (@AroundtheHorn) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundtheHorn/status/1610400737246281731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-04-2023 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16708793)
I’m also wondering how much pressure Roger is giving to Bills and Bengals ownership behind closed doors.

Would make everything sooooo much easier if Bills just agreed to a forfeit because it would be the “best for the NFL”. Wonder if other owners get involved and give Bills/Bengals a call

It would be much easier if they just fix the Raiders win vs. the Chiefs on Saturday, be prepared to play our best and that still may not be good enough with the flag fest we are going to see...

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708817)
The Bills didn't want to play the game this week. Sounds like they might not even want to play Sunday.

If they don't play Sunday, I will agree with you. And then I'll be on the exact same side of where you all are.

But I really think they're gonna play that game.

DaFace 01-04-2023 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16708812)
It's pretty much a staple of modern discourse to make unfounded assumptions about the positions of people you disagree with. ROFL

As far as I know, the Bills themselves haven't said anything at all about what they want to happen. People are basically just arguing against things they read on the internet or hear on the radio. Which is, of course, a super valuable use of one's time.

For example:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16708821)
get women off sports talk shows LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;No one should be playing in Week 18.&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CourtneyRCronin</a> says the NFL should push all games back following Damar Hamlin&#39;s on-field collapse. <a href="https://t.co/04ObqEWDM2">pic.twitter.com/04ObqEWDM2</a></p>&mdash; Around the Horn (@AroundtheHorn) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundtheHorn/status/1610400737246281731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Ming the Merciless 01-04-2023 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708778)
None of this is virtue signaling.
And yes, if my dog died, I would definitely care A LOT.

yes it is


and hamlin didn't die

staylor26 01-04-2023 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16708812)
It's pretty much a staple of modern discourse to make unfounded assumptions about the positions of people you disagree with. ROFL

As far as I know, the Bills themselves haven't said anything at all about what they want to happen. People are basically just arguing against things they read on the internet or hear on the radio. Which is, of course, a super valuable use of one's time.

The message from the Bills is pretty ****ing clear and to pretend otherwise is pretty ignorant.

They clearly feel/felt that football wasn't important while they don't know what's going to happen to Hamlin. That's fine, but can we stop pretending that it isn't their stance any why the game wasn't resumed Mon night or this week?

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-04-2023 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16708821)
get women off sports talk shows LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;No one should be playing in Week 18.&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CourtneyRCronin</a> says the NFL should push all games back following Damar Hamlin&#39;s on-field collapse. <a href="https://t.co/04ObqEWDM2">pic.twitter.com/04ObqEWDM2</a></p>&mdash; Around the Horn (@AroundtheHorn) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundtheHorn/status/1610400737246281731?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a nut, equating 9/11 and having 4 months to reschedule, and comparing 3000 lost lives that effected the entire country over someone currently in critical but stable condition with a good chance to recover with little damage when he is woken up.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2023 10:22 AM

jesus christ LMAO

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlpCJnOX...pg&name=medium

DaFace 01-04-2023 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708823)
If they don't play Sunday, I will agree with you. And then I'll be on the exact same side of where you all are.

But I really think they're gonna play that game.

They are practicing today fwiw. Just a walkthrough, but that doesn't seem like a team that's not planning to play.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> will hold meetings and a walk-through today. The team will not have any media availability today.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1610649953105334273?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TwistedChief 01-04-2023 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16708826)
yes it is


and hamlin didn't die

Oh, I didn't know. Once again, reading comprehension eludes you as I was responding to DJLN's talking about his dog getting hit by a car. But keep chirping and chiming in, dude.

Ming the Merciless 01-04-2023 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16708812)
I
As far as I know, the Bills themselves haven't said anything at all about what they want to happen.


in words public, maybe not


but their actions indicate they did not want to play this game this week. This game shouldve been played (as originally suggested as early as Monday) by thursday night at the latest and then they couldve played their last game monday. That was about the best possible scenario. Not playing this game: huge error.

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708820)
What kind of shitty strawman argument is this? He wasn't tight with the OL so that changes something? He needed to be close with every guy on the roster for this to have made sense?

Stefan Diggs is crying. Josh Allen looks like someone killed his dog. But he didn't know Mitch Morse that well so the idea that the team was so shaken up is just major exaggeration!

How close you are to someone impacts your capacity to move along, does it not?

And if Josh Allen is more greatly impacted by the incident than Mitch Morse - so what? Brett Favre's dad died the night before a game; pretty sure he was beat up about it. Didn't mean the league was obligated to call a pause while he sorted things out.

In order to take the extraordinary steps the league (and media/fans) have considered, it would be necessary to conclude that the Bills - as a WHOLE - are incapable of playing football.

There is absolutely no reason - given the practicalities and realities of these segmented groups - to believe that is the case.

What's happening now is similar to the mass hysteria panics you sometimes see where people start to fuel the emotions of their peers. The Bills are PUTTING themselves into a spiral here. They don't need to be here and to continue to prolong this thing does nothing but exacerbate it.

The league needs to make the call and move along.

staylor26 01-04-2023 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708823)
If they don't play Sunday, I will agree with you. And then I'll be on the exact same side of where you all are.

But I really think they're gonna play that game.

At the very least, a huge portion of that team doesn't want to play Sunday.

There's too much noise pointing to that coming from Buffalo to pretend it isn't the case.

dirk digler 01-04-2023 10:23 AM

BTW it looks like the games are on if the NFL is allowing this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Update: The Patriots are postponing media availability until Thursday. The NFL has approved giving both Buffalo and New England an extra day due to unique circumstances.<br><br>There will be media availability at practice today. <a href="https://t.co/Vg6eDdPCqn">https://t.co/Vg6eDdPCqn</a></p>&mdash; Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1610671827432390660?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 01-04-2023 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16708820)
What kind of shitty strawman argument is this? He wasn't tight with the OL so that changes something? He needed to be close with every guy on the roster for this to have made sense?

Stefan Diggs is crying. Josh Allen looks like someone killed his dog. But he didn't know Mitch Morse that well so the idea that the team was so shaken up is just major exaggeration!

Yeah that was a really dumb post

DaFace 01-04-2023 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708827)
The message from the Bills is pretty ****ing clear and to pretend otherwise is pretty ignorant.

They clearly feel/felt that football wasn't important while they don't know what's going to happen to Hamlin. That's fine, but can we stop pretending that it isn't their stance any why the game wasn't resumed Mon night or this week?

Please provide any statement from the Bills that gives their opinion about what should happen. Your own biased interpretation isn't exactly compelling evidence.

Ming the Merciless 01-04-2023 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16708835)
How close you are to someone impacts your capacity to move along, does it not?

And if Josh Allen is more greatly impacted by the incident than Mitch Morse - so what? Brett Favre's dad died the night before a game; pretty sure he was beat up about it. Didn't mean the league was obligated to call a pause while he sorted things out.

In order to take the extraordinary steps the league (and media/fans) have suggested, it would be necessary to conclude that the Bills - as a WHOLE - are incapable of playing football.

There is absolutely no reason - given the practicalities and realities of these segmented groups - to believe that is the case.

What's happening now is similar to the mass hysteria panics you sometimes see where people start to fuel the emotions of their peers. The Bills are PUTTING themselves into a spiral here. They don't need to be here and to continue to prolong this thing does nothing but exacerbate it.

The league needs to make the call and move along.


/thread

Ming the Merciless 01-04-2023 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16708840)
Please provide any statement from the Bills that gives their opinion about what should happen.


no statement is sometimes telling as well


they havent come out and said they want to try and play the game


the game isn't getting played


if they wanted to play the game do you think NFL would stop them?


who do you think is behind them not playing exactly?

ChiTown 01-04-2023 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16708817)
The Bills didn't want to play the game this week. Sounds like they might not even want to play Sunday.

The message is clearly "this is bigger than football".

That's fine, but the show must go on.

If football doesn't matter right now, then there's nothing wrong with the Bills accepting a forfeit (or 2) and getting some time to get their shit together to be ready for the playoffs which they are still in.

Anything else is unnecessarily bending over backwards for a team that has clearly said that football isn't import right now.

And we are always friends!

I think this is the correct take and outlook, and I agree with it 100%.

That is all :)

DJ's left nut 01-04-2023 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16708839)
Yeah that was a really dumb post

That Bills fan still isn't gonna sleep with you, Billay.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-04-2023 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16708763)
Lots of old guys here who are grown ass man children. Stick around its a hoot

Says the grown man with the English skills of a pre-teen. LMAO

ShortRoundChief 01-04-2023 10:26 AM

I'm having a tough time deciding between masturbating whilst looking at pron or following this thread.

The cool thing about pron is when I start wanking usually someone starts ****ing. I have to be careful though sometimes it's a couple of dudes which I mean there's nothing wrong with that if that's your thing, but it's not my cup of tea.

DaFace 01-04-2023 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 16708845)
no statement is sometimes telling as well


they havent come out and said they want to try and play the game


the game isn't getting played


if they wanted to play the game do you think NFL would stop them?


who do you think is behind them not playing exactly?

I don't like to make assumptions on a heterogenous group of people think based on the inactions of their PR department, personally.


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