Originally Posted by VivaLasVegas (Post 17465192)

New here and cannot figure out how to reply to Donte…
To Donte asking for anything missing on potential crimes. I have a some what lengthy response and something to think about at this point in time.

Are we missing anything, YES! Establishment Rice was there and was one of the five men somehow involved.

I’ve been following this for over 24 hours now as I am heavily involved (on a personal level) with the SMU/Chiefs Teams. What I’ve watch “unfold” has been a large group of adults playing telephone.

From what has been provided to the general public this is what we can establish.
- rices car was involved.
There is almost 100% consensus he is not the person in the orange shirt getting out of the car- which leads me back to just looking at this from the very beginning

Is it a fact the corvette (which is fact belongs to rice whether leased or purchased) was engaged in reckless driving? No

Watch the dash cam footage at .25x speed. At best the worst critique that can be giving is the corvette was tailing the car in front of him. The dash cam does not show the corvette engaged in reckless driving. However, it does show the corvette reacting to reckless driving from the lambo. The lambo driving and trying to pass any vehicle from the shoulder is unhinged and absolutely proof of reckless driving. Again, the dash cam shows the corvette reacting to the lambo, and everything falls like dominos after. That is a fact.

It is fact the men from the lambo and corvette knew each other as they are seen from another video all walking away together. It is a fact there were five men in total between the two vehicles.

What is not fact? That rashee is one of these five men.

My goodness- there is hundreds of replies on this forum, Reddit, X, and the likes. Following for over 24 hours I can say we cannot factually place rice here as one of these five men. Look at this thread. There is no general consensus. Popular beliefs are the guy in grey shorts or the guy in the red durag…. There is no argument he was in the orange shirt therefore driving his own car. So I will jump to conclusion that it’s a fact rice was not driving his own car.

Now for the four other men. It is not a fact he is one of those four. Only speculation. I read on another forum that the lambo had been rented. Which is interesting. Which does actually make me pause for a hot second and wonder if rice also lent his car (can’t see him renting his car out). I did ask for a source on the lambo being rented and haven’t been provided w one, so I’m not going to say that is a fact. Still interesting in the larger context. It’s a family holiday weekend. Someone could have easily come into town and borrowed rices car for the weekend… why else was this lambo “rented?” If that is a fact I wonder more about holiday weekend and visitors needing access to a vehicle.

So again to answer the question, “is there anything missing?” Yes, establishing rice is even one of these five men.

Everything regarding alcohol, drugs, guns, etc is all speculation. I’m definitely not on board with the gun speculation coming from a woman who was involved and the presumption (and racists) comment on them having stolen these vehicles because they couldn’t afford them.

That’s another fact. Rice can afford a corvette.

Some of these assumptions being echoed all day have really snow balled. Don’t even tell me that little brief case was holding a bunch of guns. The guy gets out of the lambo w it like a ladies purse. I’m taking zero facts from that video other than the evidence of 5 men walking away.

I’m not on the innocent until proven guilty train, I’m just on the train of until it’s 100% factual rice has yet to be identified as one of the five men for these potential crimes.

More fact than speculation, we can guarantee he won’t be in a line up for State Farm insurance!

TDLR: not fact as this point in time rice was there- nor actual evidence the corvette was engaged in reckless driving.

Please do not come for me in the sense of “why hasn’t he turned himself in”… I’m just saying I’ve watched this unfold all last night and today and there has yet to be a hard cold photo that is factual placing him at the scene of this crime. That is all.

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17465270)

If he or his associates are in the cars then yeah he's boned. If he was driving one of the cars he's looking at 1 to 5 years in jail and it's a felony for starters. The civil lawsuits are the real problem. I would assume Texas has cameras on their various roads. So they'll find out who is driving. They'll know if they were street racing. At least no one was seriously hurt or so it appears except for the mental trauma.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17465118)

Then you get to fight admissibility if you have to. And pick and prod and pull and just make life hell for the prosecutors. Foundation on cell phone videos alone is a pain in the ass in something like this.

Say nothing. Get your plea, probably do some community service and pay a fine. Maybe miss a few games in September.

Crazy to me how this has blown up.

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17465252)

I said person type. That's not racist at all. Do you think Will Shields would have been involved in this type of shit? How about Charles, Houston, Holmes or Reid? No. The fact you think I was referring to skin color is you being a racist. Now on the other hand, Johhny M, Baker Mayfield, Shockey back in the day and Jimmy Graham are the type that would be in a mess like this.

Arrogant loud mouths that don't take accountability.

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17465287)

Did he ever turn himself in?

Is he really hiding? Weird situation all around

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17465189)

This is what I saw. At crash site his hoodie seems to cover up the watch some but could easily say it’s the same.

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17465287)

Did he ever turn himself in?

Is he really hiding? Weird situation all around

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17465280)

We get it. You're a Broncos fan and you want maximum punishments instantaneously without trials. However, there is a huge difference between what could happen and what is likely to happen and it will take quite a while to sort out the particulars, so cool your jets a bit.

Originally Posted by Paniero (Post 17465159)

I know some things about this that most people don’t. I hate that I have to say this, but if Rice remains a Chief after this incident I have to believe that I’ll give up my lifelong Chiefs fandom.

More details will be released this week. If Rice escapes accountability for his actions, so be it. I can’t live with supporting someone that endangered the lives of innocent people, including children, and then fled without a concern for those affected by the accident he in part caused.

Originally Posted by Paniero (Post 17465159)

I know some things about this that most people don’t. I hate that I have to say this, but if Rice remains a Chief after this incident I have to believe that I’ll give up my lifelong Chiefs fandom.

More details will be released this week. If Rice escapes accountability for his actions, so be it. I can’t live with supporting someone that endangered the lives of innocent people, including children, and then fled without a concern for those affected by the accident he in part caused.

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17465265)

I have been staying out of this. But since you guys won't leave it alone, I'm going to say one thing. Unless you know the guy personally, which I doubt, then who are you to say that he isn't what he says, which I believe, is a Christian, correct? Christianity isn't about being perfect and saying that we're better than anyone else. It's in fact the opposite. We admit that we are imperfect sinners in need of a savior. Only Jesus Christ was perfect. The rest of us our just human and we make mistakes. Just because someone says something hateful on an internet bulletin board to a bunch of guys who mock Christianity on a regular basis doesn't mean that he's not a Christian. IRL he may be helping in the community, or a leader in his church, or something else and looked at as a Christian leader. I don't know. Do you? Anyway, I may get banned from this thread for saying it. Whatever. I spoke my peace and I'm not planning on saying anything more about it anyway and I can log out to continue to follow the thread.

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17465287)

Did he ever turn himself in?

Is he really hiding? Weird situation all around

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 17465306)

Last I heard (read) he lawyered up yesterday afternoon, which is the smartest thing he's done yet.

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17465229)

Rationalizing it down to a fender bender, eh.

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17465205)

DJBILL?

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465314)

Rashee Rice's lawyer, Matthew Merryman has released a statement:

“Today was a big day for Rashee Rice. From the beginning of this case the Government has been double-coveraging. And Rashee’s routes were covered and intercepted” Merryman said. “But today Rashee stepped up into the pressure and took responsibility for his actions. If I know anything about Rashee Rice and if the Chiefs Kingdom knows anything about Rashee, it’s that even when Rashee was under pressure and he stumbled and fell, he did not let his knee touch the ground, because he knows there is still hope.”

“Today Rashee stood humble and repentant before the eyes of the Court and the eyes of the Chiefs Kingdom,” Merryman added. “Rashee loves the Chiefs Kingdom, he loves his family, and he loves Kansas City. He only hopes that you will all rally to his support.”

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 17465233)

Yeah, I'm a big Rain Man fan but anybody who watched the video knows that was no "mundane traffic accident".

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465314)

Rashee Rice's lawyer, Matthew Merryman has released a statement:

“Today was a big day for Rashee Rice. From the beginning of this case the Government has been double-coveraging. And Rashee’s routes were covered and intercepted” Merryman said. “But today Rashee stepped up into the pressure and took responsibility for his actions. If I know anything about Rashee Rice and if the Chiefs Kingdom knows anything about Rashee, it’s that even when Rashee was under pressure and he stumbled and fell, he did not let his knee touch the ground, because he knows there is still hope.”

“Today Rashee stood humble and repentant before the eyes of the Court and the eyes of the Chiefs Kingdom,” Merryman added. “Rashee loves the Chiefs Kingdom, he loves his family, and he loves Kansas City. He only hopes that you will all rally to his support.”

Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 17465319)

Is this for real?

Seems a little serious for a lawyer to be making stupid football analogies.

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17465302)

I didn't say or infer anything like that. All those ideas are trapped on the 8-in space between your ears. Hit and run in Texas is a felony. Punishable from 1 to 5 years in prison and a $5,000 fine and that's if no one was injured. He's got money so he and or his insurance company is definitely going to get sued. That's the civil trial part.

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17465270)

If he or his associates are in the cars then yeah he's boned. If he was driving one of the cars he's looking at 1 to 5 years in jail and it's a felony for starters. The civil lawsuits are the real problem. I would assume Texas has cameras on their various roads. So they'll find out who is driving. They'll know if they were street racing. At least no one was seriously hurt or so it appears except for the mental trauma.

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17465270)

If he or his associates are in the cars then yeah he's boned. If he was driving one of the cars he's looking at 1 to 5 years in jail and it's a felony for starters. The civil lawsuits are the real problem. I would assume Texas has cameras on their various roads. So they'll find out who is driving. They'll know if they were street racing. At least no one was seriously hurt or so it appears except for the mental trauma.

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465326)

Yeah, delete that post Ming you pussy.

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17465317)

It was far from a fender bender, but also it was obvious when it was over that no one was seriously injured. The two most damaged cars were the Lambo and Corvette. Doesn't make leaving right but a doubt if there was anything other than bumps and bruises.

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17465333)

I disagree when you say it was far from a fender bender. It looked kind of scary and it definitely could have been far far worse, but in the end it was just a car wreck where several cars got damaged and, unless I'm mistaken, nobody was seriously hurt. Though it could have been much worse, the result was basically a fender bender.

Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 17465306)

Last I heard (read) he lawyered up yesterday afternoon, which is the smartest thing he's done yet.

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17465332)

it was copypasta right?

it was unfunny and lame copypasta

you're a shitty poster.

everything you pist is stupid.

I was trying not to derail this thread but since you asked.

your and idiot

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17465333)

I disagree when you say it was far from a fender bender. It looked kind of scary and it definitely could have been far far worse, but in the end it was just a car wreck where several cars got damaged and, unless I'm mistaken, nobody was seriously hurt. Though it could have been much worse, the result was basically a fender bender.

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17465334)

We are basically saying the same thing. I visualize a fender bender happening at low speed in a city where someone changes lanes. This could have been way worse than that, but wasn't. As I said in other post, it was obvious that no one was seriously hurt as soon as the accident was over based on the cars involved.

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465338)

Funny that. You're one of my biggest thumbs uppers.

But telling people how rubbish their posts are is your schtick. I'd hate to be known for being a lazy critiquer who adds **** all to any discussion but you just enjoy being you.

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 17465344)

The best drama is no drama, tune in next hour for more!

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17465347)

lol

I thumbs up and thumbs down all the time..

you can't even look back that far on your thumbs... how would you even know I'm your biggest thumbs upper. .. bullshit

do you write them down?

whats the ratio of down and up?

"lazy critiquer" is not me....

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)

who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)

who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17465270)

If he or his associates are in the cars then yeah he's boned. If he was driving one of the cars he's looking at 1 to 5 years in jail and it's a felony for starters. The civil lawsuits are the real problem. I would assume Texas has cameras on their various roads. So they'll find out who is driving. They'll know if they were street racing. At least no one was seriously hurt or so it appears except for the mental trauma.

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I like to keep track. I've amassed over 10k likes from you, which is especially impressive given my small number of posts on this forum.

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzGcSqmq/Screen...401-154515.png

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)

who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I like to keep track. I've amassed over 10k likes from you, which is especially impressive given my small number of posts on this forum.

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzGcSqmq/Screen...401-154515.png

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)

who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17465320)

I'm sure it's a parody of that lawyer who said similar shit on the courthouse steps about Chiefaholic.

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I like to keep track. I've amassed over 10k likes from you, which is especially impressive given my small number of posts on this forum.

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzGcSqmq/Screen...401-154515.png

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17465373)

Should have scrolled down 10k lines first.

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17465368)

You need to seek help. This isn't normal.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17465320)

I'm sure it's a parody of that lawyer who said similar shit on the courthouse steps about Chiefaholic.

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17465379)

How did you manage to get 10k likes from him when you only have 2,135 posts?

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17465379)

How did you manage to get 10k likes from him when you only have 2,135 posts?

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I like to keep track. I've amassed over 10k likes from you, which is especially impressive given my small number of posts on this forum.

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzGcSqmq/Screen...401-154515.png

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I like to keep track. I've amassed over 10k likes from you, which is especially impressive given my small number of posts on this forum.

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzGcSqmq/Screen...401-154515.png

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 17465386)

Because it’s an obvious joke.

Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17465406)

trying to figure out which one was the driver


mainly just speculating, but some people are convinced 100% that:


1) doo rag guy is Rice


2) Greyshorts the Innocent is NOT Rice


3) orange guy was driving Rice's Vette


4) based on #3 Rice could not be driving the Vette


5) doo Rag guy was driving the Lambo






I want to believe Rice wasn't driving so I am rejecting #1. I accept #3 and #4. I also reject #4 until it is proven 100% and even then im not accepting doo-rag guy is Rice until I am forced.



I really hope Rice is Greyshorts the innocent but I am probably just wishful thinking. The people accepting #2 are probably right but I am holding out hope on the 1%.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17465395)

How do you even find this out

Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17465361)

who buys a brand new corvette on a rookie contract?

Originally Posted by ModSocks (Post 17465389)

Been out of the loop, wtf. Sigh. I got a lot of catching up to do. Anyone kind enough to give me a synopsis of this thread real fast?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17465414)

He good.

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17465407)

We know womble is a joke.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17465414)

He good.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17465418)

You mean tell me OP's original thread title "goodbye Rashee Rice" was a little premature?

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17465357)

I like to keep track. I've amassed over 10k likes from you, which is especially impressive given my small number of posts on this forum.

I'm watching you Ming. I'm watching you.

https://i.postimg.cc/DzGcSqmq/Screen...401-154515.png