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duncan_idaho 01-16-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12029588)
I was thinking something like 4/56 at most, yeah. Durability has its value, though. It's why the Jays keep paying Dickey something like 14M a season to throw his 200 mediocre innings.


When JA Happ is getting $12 million a year, $14 million for Kennedy seems like a bargain (Id seen some suggest Kennedy would be its high as $17 million/year).

He's got more than mediocre upside and a pretty stable floor.

KC_Connection 01-16-2016 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12029591)
When JA Happ is getting $12 million a year, $14 million for Kennedy seems like a bargain (Id seen some suggest Kennedy would be its high as $17 million/year).

He's got more than mediocre upside and a pretty stable floor.

It's not the salary that surprised me here, but the years. And I think I'd take Happ at 3 years over Kennedy at 5 years. Don't think there's too much difference between them in quality really (other than Happ coming off the much better 2015: 3.61 ERA/3.41 FIP vs. 4.28 ERA/4.51 FIP).

Unsmooth-Moment 01-16-2016 07:58 AM

*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
 
Spending some coin lately. This is our last major move right? Anything else would be spring training invite or something most likely?

KevB 01-16-2016 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12029593)
It's not the salary that surprised me here, but the years. And I think I'd take Happ at 3 years over Kennedy at 5 years. Don't think there's too much difference between them in quality really (other than Happ coming off the much better 2015: 3.61 ERA/3.41 FIP vs. 4.28 ERA/4.51 FIP).

Sounds like there's an opt out after 2, so that mitigates some of the risk. That's of course assuming it's the Royals option to opt out.

KevB 01-16-2016 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 12029596)
Spending some coin lately. This is our last major move right? Anything else would be spring training invite or something most likely?

Anything else would be bargain bin shopping, like Chris Young last year.

Sure-Oz 01-16-2016 08:13 AM

Like the signing as well...pitching def costs

mr. tegu 01-16-2016 08:19 AM

I am going to need more space on my wall after next season

Kidd Lex 01-16-2016 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsmooth-Moment (Post 12029596)
Spending some coin lately. This is our last major move right? Anything else would be spring training invite or something most likely?

I'd guess we will see a GMDM special here or there. He's known to take a flier on a reclamation project or two after free agency is nearly dead. Value signings.

Sure-Oz 01-16-2016 08:24 AM

I assume Fister or Lee are not on that flyers board. Who realistically is out there that they would sign. I like the Kennedy signing...our def will help alot

okcchief 01-16-2016 08:27 AM

Very nice. I felt like we needed one more solid pitcher. Good offseason.

Pablo 01-16-2016 08:31 AM

You guys cool with making another WS run? Does that sound OK to everyone?

ChiTown 01-16-2016 08:36 AM

i just love the fact that our Management recognizes that we still have an opportunity to go for it and repeat in 2016. This makes me happy

Bufkin 01-16-2016 08:37 AM

2 biggest contracts in franchise history within a week of each other. Is it too soon to start the "repeat" chant?

C3HIEF3S 01-16-2016 08:38 AM

Funny that this place has been talking about getting Kennedy for like three years now. I like the signing a lot.

duncan_idaho 01-16-2016 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 12029593)
It's not the salary that surprised me here, but the years. And I think I'd take Happ at 3 years over Kennedy at 5 years. Don't think there's too much difference between them in quality really (other than Happ coming off the much better 2015: 3.61 ERA/3.41 FIP vs. 4.28 ERA/4.51 FIP).


There's perhaps less risk with Happ, but he also is a guy who cashed in on one good half season, the best performance by far of his career. Don't believe he's ever finished a full season with an ERA under 4 over the rest of his career... And isn't he 33?

Not a shot at him, just that even guys with warts are getting a lot of years and dollars.

Over the past five years, Kennedy has been the better pitcher overall and been more durable and reliable. Combine that with being younger, and that's where separation comes in.


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