ChiefsPlanet - Movies and TV Game of Thrones Seasons 7-8

It's when he's nearly buried by the melee, then rises above the scrum.

Referenced briefly in the video Buehler has above at :10, where Jon is competely surrounded by fighters and looks up, like he's swimming for the surface of a great lake.

Ah ... okay. Got it.

I failed to grok the symbolism.

Thanks, Mr. Baby Lee.

FAX

Chiefspants

03-21-2019 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14172493)

Uh ... Mr. Chiefspants ...

You referenced, "Apparently Jon's iconic "rebirth" scene in the battle (a scene that has come to represent Jon re-embracing life in the series)".

Can you point this out to me? I'm not quite following. Very interested, but not understanding exactly the scene to which you refer.

FAX

Bookmarking this for later. Iirc D&D and Sappo had a great interview about the spontaneous nature of shooting the scene and the subsequent symbolic nature behind it. I'll dig it up after work and post it.

mr. tegu

03-21-2019 08:24 PM

If the battle would have ended with Ramsay’s forces betraying him that actually would have changed quite a bit about how we think about the battle and the results for Jon. He defeated the entire army and house and avenged the red wedding in dramatic fashion. If the forces simply betray Ramsay he beats Ramsay but does he completely destroy the threat? Do the other houses completely rally behind him? Does he have to forcefully take back Winterfell?

Chiefspants

03-21-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 14173622)

I think the idea was that this betrayal, coupled with the Sansa, Petyr, and the Riders of Rohan, would have been what forced Ramsay back into Winterfell. Everything else about the battle would have stayed consistent - with all northern houses pledging loyalty in Winds (with Jon pardoning the betraying houses in S7 Ep 1).

mlyonsd

03-21-2019 08:42 PM

We started watching again late last summer with Season 1, Episode 1. Been watching one per week Sunday nights. Our plan is to finish Season 7 Episode 7 right before the Season 8 premier.

It's amazing how much I missed watching everything the first time.

Chiefspants

03-21-2019 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14172493)

All of these are just excellent reads/watches for a nerd like me.

Article on Jon's rebirth and how it was designed by Kit Harrington and Sappo:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...ds-crowd-scene

Discussion on Jon's rebirth in the episode:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthron..._the_bastards/

And finally, just one of the best breakdowns on the creation of the battle.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/B93k4uhpf7g" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

RustShack

03-27-2019 08:11 PM

There’s going to be a two hour long behind the scenes type episode after the show... but they said it will be more than just “behind the scenes”.

vailpass

03-29-2019 11:35 AM

Skyy God

03-29-2019 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 14186095)

She's maybe bi?

Lucky ass Jonas.

Baby Lee

03-29-2019 12:31 PM