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Hammock Parties 01-26-2024 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17363869)
Quite honestly, I find the Bills MUCH more difficult to defend than Baltimore especially having to account more for Josh's arm and the undefendable throws that Lamar could never make

You can't play single high against the Bills too much. Josh will destroy you.

You do it all day against Lamar. All ****ing day.

Legendary Chiefs defensive game coming.

PurpleOrange 01-26-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17363856)
Ravens are soft. Pound Pacheco and when Lamar gets hit he folds

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...0VUPtqeb3sQPHs

ntexascardfan 01-26-2024 11:11 AM

I'm also glad we have the early game where there's still a decent chance it'll be raining in Baltimore at kickoff.

DJ's left nut 01-26-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17363872)
You can't play single high against the Bills too much. Josh will destroy you.

You do it all day against Lamar. All ****ing day.

Legendary Chiefs defensive game coming.

Can Conner play single high? I kinda doubt he has the eye discipline he needs to do that effectively just yet. He'll get there (god I love the range he's shown) but that's a massive risk at the moment.

Edwards doesn't have the wheels that Conner has, but he's not bad in that regard and he's clever out there. Combine that with the generally stout coverage we'll get on the outside, and I would be pretty comfortable rolling a lot of single high out there.

Reid down in the box can do some pretty stout work to shut down that TE passing game and prevent a 3 yard run from becoming an 8+ yard run.

Someone give Buddy Ryan a call and do a crash course on the 46 Defense, stat!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17363877)

Some piece of shit backup destroyed you from Cleveland and you got bludgeoned over and over so ya you are soft. How many games has Lamar missed? INCLUDING a playoff game he chose not risking a contract over playing a game he could have.

RunKC 01-26-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17363862)
Baltimore’s defense was manhandled in multiple games this season.

See Cleveland bludgeoning them for almost 200 yards rushing… led by a back-up RB.

Joe Burrow was destroying that defense before he got hurt with 6 mins left in the 2nd quarter.

He was 11/17 101 yards 1 TD and a 100 rating

wachashi 01-26-2024 11:15 AM

I think 20-21 points could very well win this game. Two elite defenses. Both sides have every incentive to try and run the ball. Explosive plays could be very rare.

If it's a clean game from both sides with no really costly turnovers, I think 21 points does it.

PurpleOrange 01-26-2024 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 17363879)
I'm also glad we have the early game where there's still a decent chance it'll be raining in Baltimore at kickoff.

Latest update looks like the rain will be done by kickoff.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-26-2024 11:16 AM

Spags doesn't want to play a bunch of single high though. He knows he can let his CBs play extremely physical if they have sure help behind them.

He's gonna play games in the front 7 - McDuffie will blitz plenty, the LBs too. But I don't expect a bunch of one-high.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:16 AM

Every legit QB other than a green rookie torched that defense

Pasta Little Brioni 01-26-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17363891)
Spags doesn't want to play a bunch of single high though. He knows he can let his CBs play extremely physical if they have sure help behind them.

He's gonna play games in the front 7 - McDuffie will blitz plenty, the LBs too. But I don't expect a bunch of one-high.

You are going to see a lot of cover 0. A shit Houston defense had Lamar in hell for awhile with it and they didn't have this secondary behind it

pugsnotdrugs19 01-26-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PurpleOrange (Post 17363889)
Latest update looks like the rain will be done by kickoff.

Sounds perfect. Field will still be wet though and that may matter just as much.

Defense, in the passing game at least, will be more challenging.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-26-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17363895)
You are going to see a lot of cover 0. A shit Houston defense had Lamar in hell for awhile with it and they didn't have this secondary behind it

I agree with that. There will be 0 and 2-high looks, just don't think they do much 1-high.

smithandrew051 01-26-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17363801)
Correct.

I think we should still defer if we win the toss, but this may be one of those instances where you consider taking the ball.

If you get a score and a stop, you're one drive away from putting the Ravens in a real bind. You get up 10 or 14 on them, it'll take a lot of willpower to not start opening up the offense a bit. Especially since they saw this happen not too terribly long ago against Tennessee. Some doubt WILL creep in.

Harbaugh's a good coach - they may be able to ignore all that. That's why I'd probably still defer. But I'd understand if Andy didn't.

I’d defer in this one.

I think Lamar comes out a little too excited and takes a bit to settle down.

The Chiefs can probably steal a quick 3 and out.

Coochie liquor 01-26-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17363647)
Yeah, I thought the Bills' game plan was pretty good and really tough to defend.... they used all 50 yards horizontally and basically had an extended running game on both sidelines and up the middle to defend, and still had to respect hero ball and Allen taking off.

And with how they were getting blockers out to help with the quick screens and then using those blockers to rugby push forward... it's tough to defend.

As a defense, you aren't going to simply say you're defending all of that all the time, and it takes time to adjust to their script.

Just like every other "scary" running team ever, you let them run the ball and don't get sucked into it too much.... there's no "establishing the run" and "gotta stop the run"... you just can't let it get out of hand to the point the offense is picking up first downs on 1st and 2nd downs (happened on 2 drives last weekend). You still have to make enough early down stops to force them into passing downs, then defend those without letting Allen run wild.

Let them take 13 plays to march down the field.. it's what all defenses do these days. People get pissed early in games when "they're running right down our throats!" and then they settle for a FG and everything is okay again. Rinse, repeat.

I, for one need to make a copy of this. And put it next to my TV on Gameday! Very well said, and I’m absolutely guilty of this.


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