ESPN Famous Expert Professional Analyst John Clayton's QB Power Ranking are out. You can see Orton there below Cassell. Way below - you have to look farther down. Lower still... you might have to scroll the page to get down that far. Keep going - he's way down by Jason Campbell....

THE ELITE
1. Tom Brady, New England Patriots
2. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers
3. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts
4. Drew Brees, New Orleans Saints
5. Ben Roethlisberger, Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers
7. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons
8. Michael Vick, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Eli Manning, New York Giants
10. Tony Romo, Dallas Cowboys
11. Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens
12. Matt Schaub, Houston Texans
13. Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
CHAD PENNINGTON DIVISION
14. Sam Bradford, St. Louis Rams
15. Matt Cassel, Kansas City Chiefs
16. Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears
17. Mark Sanchez, New York Jets
18. Kevin Kolb, Arizona Cardinals
19. Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions
20. Kyle Orton, Denver Broncos
21. Donovan McNabb, Minnesota Vikings
22. David Garrard, Jacksonville Jaguars
23. Jason Campbell, Oakland Raiders
24. Matt Hasselbeck, Tennessee Titans
HIT-OR-MISS DIVISION
25. Colt McCoy, Cleveland Browns
26. Chad Henne, Miami Dolphins
27. Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills
28. Alex Smith, San Francisco 49ers
29. Kerry Collins, Indianapolis Colts
30. Tarvaris Jackson, Seattle Seahawks
31. John Beck-Rex Grossman, Washington Redskins
32. Cam Newton, Carolina Panthers
33. Andy Dalton, Cincinnati Bengals

You are always good for a laugh.

When the hell did Matt Schaub become an elite QB?

Cuz he throws to Andre

http://mister52pickup.files.wordpres...re-johnson.jpg

When the hell did "elite" include 13 players?

Yeah, there needs to be another tier below Manning, Brady, Rodgers, and Brees. Shaub belongs in the Pennington division. He has never even taken a team to the playoffs for crying out loud.

What, no updates out of the Dove Valley :whackit: Broncos for Week 4?? Did they stink up the joint or was that just the fatboy in the Tebow jersey??

Thats a lack of respcet for Orton. Cassel should be 20 and Orton should be 15.

You Bronco fans really piss me off.....

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1237899641...ches_horse.gif

Don't blame That, blame his parents for feeding him paint chips as a tasty treat every night.

uhhhhhooooohhhhhhhhhh! ESPN's Bill Williamson agrees that Raider 5th-round pick Denarius Moore is better than Jerry Rice!!

The 'effortless' summer of Denarius Moore - Bill Williamson, ESPN

Moore has been the story of Oakland’s camp. He went from being a late-round project with long-term possibilities to a player who looks ready to help the team right away. There is a chance he will start for Oakland in the regular-season opener Sept. 12 at Denver in the second half of ESPN’s “Monday Night Football” doubleheader.

Moore has impressed the Raiders with his top-notch hands and his crisp route-running ability. He opened eyes early in camp by making every possible catch. Then, it happened on a daily basis. Local reporters have written that Moore is often the best player on the practice field, regardless of position. Now it is a major happening in practice if Moore actually drops a pass. More importantly, the preseason has not proven to be too much for Moore. Performing well in camp is one thing. Doing it against other first-string defenses is another. Moore has made an impact in all three of Oakland’s preseason games. “The game isn’t too big for him,” Campbell said. “He’s been just as good in games as he has in practice. Again, the word that comes up most to me is 'effortless.’ He’s just so smooth for a rookie.”

I watched Moore closely last week against New Orleans. He looks like a complete player. He ran perfect routes and was active in the run game, delivering some nice blocks, which is not always a given for a young receiver. He looked like a complete, confident player.

The question is can he do it on a regular basis. Of course, we won’t know that answer until Moore plays in the regular season, but, so far, he is on our radar and that’s not always the case for a fifth-round pick.

He's been really damn good the last 2 seasons... no reason to think it's falling apart anytime soon.

Sorry, he's not an elite QB right now. Not even close.

Honestly...what is a homer? What does that all encompass?

Just try to copy KnowMo & GoChiefs. Thats what I do....