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Marcellus 02-24-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13435372)
And you know this how?

The League Year doesn't open until March 14, 2018.

While teams can discuss trades, those trades cannot be officially announced by the involved franchises until the New League Year opens.

Because all the details of the Alex Smith trade are known whether its on the team web sight or not and Chiefs front office personnel have commented on the trade and wished Alex well publicly.

Smith has commented on it and Fuller has commented on it. No its not "official" yet but doesn't change we all know it and its been announced as fact.

TwistedChief 02-24-2018 12:17 PM

To the armchair GMs arguing we shouldn't have traded him... a hypothetical situation for you (that after reading everything actually mirrors what I think the actual narrative is):

Peters comes to you after the season and says "pay me or trade me." He wants to be a 15-20mm/yr guy and wants it now. You think, "You're on a contract. We have the leverage." Peters responds that he'll sit out the entire season. And given his nature, you see this as a genuine threat. One might respond, "No way he'll walk away from the 2mm-ish he's set to earn this year." But from Peters's perspective, one season lost of 2mm in exchange for the potential of getting 15-20mm a year or two earlier than otherwise is still probably positive expected value on his part. Then you consider that the fan base is so polarized over this guy that it will be an epic PR disaster and overall team distraction if this guy sits out for a prolonged period of time, perhaps the entire season. Peters thus has a lot more leverage than initially anticipated and he knows it.

So your options are sign Peters to a long-term deal or trade him. Note: the status quo of doing nothing is not an option. There's little question his body of work on the field may well warrant 15-20mm/yr. But given all of the other character issues associated with him, do you really feel good handing out this contract to him now? As he puts a gun to your head?

If the above happened, my vote is to trade him. It's not crystal clear, but that's the way I'd play it.

NJChiefsFan 02-24-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13435374)
Most people are still looking at this deal as if we are just trading away Marcus Peters the player.

Most people? You think most people don't know we were trading away the character, not the talent? Who thinks the chiefs traded him because of his skill?

Sassy Squatch 02-24-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13435373)
Yeah, it was that easy. :rolleyes:

Was there even a single problem after he got sat against the Raiders? Coming out of that he kept his nose down, didn't take any plays off, and didn't draw any negative attention to himself. Yes, I believe that hitting Peters in the checkbook might've just been enough to at least alter the course of events that led to this.

Molitoth 02-24-2018 12:18 PM

Did I read somewhere in this thread that it's Dorsey's fault for drafting Peters in the first place? LOL

DaneMcCloud 02-24-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 13435376)
I would think the league wasn't terribly pleased with how the Alex Smith deal went down, (Fuller finding out via Twitter) and has asked both teams to zip it up.

As I stated earlier, teams aren't allowed to officially announce trades until March 14th.

I'm pretty sure the NFL was pissed that the Chiefs leaked the details of the Smith trade to Terez and warned them not to do the same in this instance.

A loss of draft picks would be devastating and basically negate the trade.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-24-2018 12:19 PM

For those who missed my story about talking to a former U of Washington football operations guy two years ago about Marcus Peters, here you go:

Spoiler!

ILChief 02-24-2018 12:19 PM

If this is because he wasn't going to re-sign, then just keep him for another two years and let him walk and get the third round compensatory pick.

DaneMcCloud 02-24-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13435377)
Because all the details of the Alex Smith trade are known whether its on the team web sight or not and Chiefs front office personnel have commented on the trade and wished Alex well publicly.

Smith has commented on it and Fuller has commented on it. No its not "official" yet but doesn't change we all know it and its been announced as fact.

Where have Chiefs officials "wished" Smith well?

doomy3 02-24-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13435380)
Most people? You think most people don't know we were trading away the character, not the talent? Who thinks the chiefs traded him because of his skill?

Hell man, there are people thinking we should get Aaron Donald for him. Or multiple firsts. If we were just talking about the player, then that’s probably feasible. But when 31 teams don’t want him because he’s a ****ing basket case, people need to be more realistic. Knowing and accepting are two very different things.

Marcellus 02-24-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13435383)
As I stated earlier, teams aren't allowed to officially announce trades until March 14th.

I'm pretty sure the NFL was pissed that the Chiefs leaked the details of the Smith trade to Terez and warned them not to do the same in this instance.

A loss of draft picks would be devastating and basically negate the trade.

:hmmm: OK thats possible.

BossChief 02-24-2018 12:21 PM

The league warning KC to not leak info is interesting. Especially after the way the reporting was botched on the Alex Smith trade.

A haul of picks became one pick became a pick and Fuller then not Fuller then the final compensation was reported.

Makes me think Veach agreed to trade with Washington and agreed to different scenarios and at that point info was leaked and that leak could have done damage to player GM relationships if a different scenario was finalized.

If they say it involves a player and then don’t end up agreeing on a new deal and it reverts to just picks, maybe that player never wants to sign with that team and irreparable harm has been done.

I know it’s a long shot, but I do think Aaron Donald is one of the options in this.

1) a package of picks for Peters
2) Peters and a pick for Donald
3) Joyner and a pick for Peters.

carlos3652 02-24-2018 12:21 PM

Has anyone though that maybe the other 29 teams were not interested because there was a minimum amount of asking price that was dangled.

Maybe only 2 teams wanted to deal a first for him.

I have a hard time that 29 teams would have passed on him if the starting price was a 3rd and a couple other mid rounders, even if you were just buying for a 2 year rental that guaranteed a 3rd round draft pick if he walked.

IF he was dealt for mid rounders, his reputation of a cancer will procede him unless he cleans it up.

I do not know if this was a good or bad move for the Chiefs. I hate they got rid of a great player, but maybe, just maybe you give Veach (who has done a great job so far) the benefit of the doubt.

Mother****erJones 02-24-2018 12:21 PM

KC is really going to wait to leak this compensation until day one of free agency aren’t they?

Molitoth 02-24-2018 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13435380)
Most people? You think most people don't know we were trading away the character, not the talent? Who thinks the chiefs traded him because of his skill?

There are a few on the site who would try and justify that CB tackling skills and standing for the anthem is more important than ball hawking.
Nothing on the internet surprises me.


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