**** it. like the 4th and 5th are worth more than a 1, 2, and 3? We don't need projects, we need solid football players. (yes I know, Tyreek and Hunt, blah, blah blah. I'd still rather have a 1, 2, and 3 than two 4ths and 3 6's or some such shit.)

Totally agree. This defense needs playmakers in a bad way. Try to trade a 2nd and 4th or 5th for Thomas, leaving us with 1, 2, and 3. The rest of it is fodder for more trades.

I am sure that is what the Seahags are wanting.

If ET plays lights out for us, that #32 pick in the 1st round won't sting too bad. :)

Trade Breeland Speaks for a 4th or 5th rd pick

Yeah, I don't care about a pick after round 4. They're nice if they pan out obviously, but the chances aren't just very good.

Man, I mean sure, I'd love to have a 4th and 5th, but you can essentially get those guys as UDFA. Whats the real difference between a 5th and an UDFA?

That late rounds have been good for us- it is the 2 round we keep taking longshot prospects. :shake:

Then you take that 2nd round pick and use it to trade up in the 1st for the guy that you want.

That's true.

Whether they trade for Thomas or not, it won't matter if they keep blowing the 2nd and 3rd rounders.

It's ****ing awful. Stop taking projects there like Kpass. Stop taking good football players and putting them at different positions.

Seriously, Speaks was a good football player at Ole Miss. He wasn't a blue chip guy, but he was just a good solid football player on the DL. So lets draft him and make him stand up and do something he's never done.

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We aren’t trading for Earl Thomas.

I just hate that.

The teams that consistently draft well don't do it because they take better players. Theres no secret formula.

Take guys and ask them to do what they're good at and develop them to do the rest along the way.

Maybe I'm oversimplifying it or something. It just doesn't seem like rocket surgery.

The NFL is filled with guys who all want to look smarter than everyone else. Sometimes it works.....more of then than not though....it doesn't.

Look...I just want to have the chance to moon some of you assholes that night during the Super Bowl celebration down at the P&L district, and I know there’s a lot better chance of it happening with Thomas...so for that reason, just make it work Veach.

Maybe that's true.

I get looking at what can translate and all. But hell, look how long it's taken them to do it with QB's. Finally that's getting into the league and holy shit, it works. It just doesn't seem like it's that hard to figure out.

Eric Murray was a corner in college, pretty good one. Lets draft him to play safety. Ok, I mean I get it. You don't think he has the foot speed or whatever. Fine.

I get it. I also understand development isn't always a linear line. Maybe he figures it out and plays better. I think he was better against SF than before but he's still having issues.