The LT position has given some of this fan base PTSD.

COWARD. TRAITOR. LOSER.

Thats Clay for like a month now.

Not at all. I’m talking about next year if we lose Trey. I think Kingsley might just be a solid RG candidate in 2025.

One move and go routes.

Those are more viable now that we have a guy who can win those cuts in Brown. But what you don't have are those really good zone breakers that create confusion on the back end. The drags that require the WR get to the other side of the field, for instance. The deep crossers.

Corner routes? Yeah, you still have those. You can use smash concepts and wreck a cover 2 for instance (can get cover 4 as well). If Kelce turns it back up, you can really do some work on that corner route. Worthy could get it done from the slot.

But those get chewed up by Cover 3. So then you want to go to like a Y Cross or something to get downfield and you just can't do that with these short drops.

I think we'd see a lot of cover 3 looks (which also allows that safety to come down and play the run better) and with the short drops, we have less and less that can attack those.

Guys I’m cleary talking about next year if we lose Trey. Kingsley has played G for one game. Sheesh LMAO

And yet another point. Clay’s gif’s make the case for keeping Hollywood. Those quick passes were because of him.

I was at the game vs Houston. Him being out there changed everything. It made Worthy better. It opened up the middle of the field for Kelce/Hopkins. It opened up Watson being a rotational guy instead of “the guy” (and boy has he had some chances there).

Those are not all 3-step drops plays. Not even close LMAO.

You made a false statement. Own it.

With Morris, Nourzad and Kingsley, I'm not even a little worried about losing Smith next season.

Someone can fill that role just fine. But I'd still rather it NOT be Kingsley. Guys that big with that kind of athleticism are really rare and they're vital to finding an 'island' LT. If you want one of those, you have to get the guy with the traits to do it.

Kingsley has 'em.

Let him work through the kinks.

You don't have to get sour! I know what I saw and Humphries just ain't got it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that!

I didn't say anything about the number of steps taken. Ever.

I'm talking about timing. Every one of those throws is made at precisely the end of the drop.

It's all quick passing.

You're scared of the playoffs. Admit it.

By the way, plays are kind of designed to come out when the QB reaches the end of his drop, whether it's 3-step, 5-step or 7-step....like WTF man LMAO...you accuse ME of not knowing ball?

Joe Thuney is the LT. DJ Humphries isn't coming to save this team.

Wanya Morris is basically a perfect fit to slide in at RG, not worried about next year.

If you don't keep Hollywood, you need to find someone to replace him.

As you noted, those plays just don't work without Hollywood. That's why I keep saying that I think HE'S been more critical to the offense than Thuney.

Hollywood's presence allows us to utilize those concepts that can still get you a little downfield on shorter drops. Without him (or a rejuvenated Kelce) those are just not in the playbook.

Because lets all remember that Thuney played LT vs. Cleveland and our offense looked as bad as it looked all season. It wasn't until Brown showed up vs. Houston that suddenly those plays started working.

What's why I keep saying I'm not convinced Thuney's move to LT is what made the difference. I think it may have been Brown's return. He's MASSIVE to this intermediate and downfield game.

look at this "quick pass" LMAO



what are you smoking man?

Designed or not you know the Chiefs passing game with Mahomes has rarely ever looked like that.

Oh that was never in doubt.

You know what you know -- you made that quite clear.