I'm not sure how anyone can say that he's a good dribbler and can handle the ball just fine when literally the only thing he has ever done in a KU uniform is shoot shitty, off-balance 3's

Mason shooting 45% at the rim. Tharpe shot 54% the year he got booted. Mason is shit. And Self's laziness on the recruiting trail led to Mason being here. It's a joke he can't get a good PG. Monte Morris, Cousins, and the new kid Evans last night are all superior. Why isn't Self getting them?


Real fun watching Mason get torched defensively and his shots packed every drive.

Furthermore, if he's 6'8'', then Hunter Mickelson is 7'7''

I'll chime in here....

I think Svi's main problem is that his basketball IQ is pretty darned low. He's got some length, moves very well, but once he has the ball, it appears to be a mystery to him as to what to do with it. As someone said, he has horrible vision, doesn't pass it well, so he shoots it.........from anywhere.

Guy definitely has physical skills, but man, he has a ways to go to understand this game we call basketball.

PB, methinks Mason is playing hurt. I'd agree that he's not the Second Coming, but he's certainly better than he's been playing of late. You don't go from as good as he was to as poor as he is for no good reason. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he had some nagging injury. Something's not right with him.

He's been widely regarded by Kansas fans as the best player on the team the past two (three?) seasons. Ellis has been the actual best player as I've said for years, but Kansas fans do nothing but crap on him.

Sherron Collins got worse at the rim as he aged in a KU uniform. He ended up being a better midrange and 3 point shooter. Same thing is happening with Mason. He's getting less efficient as he ages at driving and finishing. I would think it would be the other way around.

Mason has the most win shares on the team both this year and last year, as well as a better Box Plus/Minus than Ellis (sorry Perry, but basketball is a two-way sport) in both seasons as well. So apparently it isn't only the "Kansas fans" who hold him in this regard, it is the stats themselves.

Uh, "Kansas fans"?? It's one dude, same one who said Coach K was a worse tourney coach than Self and that the Royals were worse than the Blue Jays

He's just not a great finisher against size and probably never will be, but that isn't something that suddenly changed this season, nor is it a big deal if the rest of his game is clicking. He's had a bad two weeks since the OU game (like the rest of the team), but I don't see anything to be overly concerned about yet.

I will say, though, that he gets asked to do way too much by this team and could be getting burned out by it, just like last season around this time. The problem is that Self can't have him rest for more than a few minutes in a game or everything goes to shit.

Well, in reality, plenty of people in this very thread said the same about Mason. Perry Ellis' defense is just THAT bad.

Never said anything of the sort. Not sure why I would have because I consider the tournament to be a crapshoot, and I'm not sure how you can be a better or worse at coaching a crapshoot than others. Now I know I have pointed out that Duke has lost early in the tournament far more often than Kansas over the last decade+ (including two first round knockouts in the last 5 years) when Self gets attacked by trolls for the very same, but that doesn't make Coach K better or worse than Self.

Definitely said this. Most people who watched baseball last year said this. But didn't the projections that you always cite in the Royals threads from FanGraphs say the very same? LMAO

I love when PB goes full troll. Hope it gets him banned from this thread like last year.

And just to show how full of shit this troll is (and how he had less belief in his own baseball team in October than I did), here's the link again him to saying that the Astros were better than the Royals after game 3 of the ALDS:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...295214&page=53

Sherron got fat, Mason is not. Sherron always had some bulk that let him get a bit of separation from the guard, Mason doesn't have strength or height. I guess Self didn't need Juwan Evans (#36 Rivals, Dallas TX) listed Kansas but never got an offer.


I guess we only go after App State and Towson recruits.

Mason cleans up against tomato cans. Big deal. Conference numbers:

PPG
Ellis: 17.2
Mason: 13.2

Shooting %
Ellis: 44
Mason: 35

Rebounds
Ellis: 8.0
Mason: 6.0

Assists
Ellis: 2.0
Mason: 3.5

Turnovers
Ellis: 1.5
Mason: 3.0

Win Shares
Ellis: .7
Mason: .4


It's not even close. Ellis dominates across the board. I get that he isn't an elite defender, but neither is Mason.

You're providing me the enormous sample size of six games, four of which came after Mason played 55 minutes against Oklahoma (while being the primary defender on the best player in the country for a bulk of that) and has been bad since. Hardly anything to go on.

Additionally, nobody would dispute that Ellis is the best offensive player on the team. He is quite clearly (especially if Selden's percentages continue to plummet). It's Perry's non-existent defense that holds him back. Mason is a good defender having a bad week, there's a bit of a difference there.