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Chief Faithful 09-10-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs (Post 9959591)
That appears to be fair enough.

I am sure you don't wish to read it or believe it... but I'll say it anyway. It really comes down to the competence of the OL sustaining blocks, picking up blitzes, and receivers downfield.

If early on, the receivers are getting open and catching the deeper ones, you will likely see more of them coming. Same for the OL holding their blocks, picking up blitzes, etc.

If they can't do well enough to earn the deep passes, then just like usual... Smith will go back to what does work. First pass of the game was a nice, deeper pass to Fasano... and he short/armed +/or kept his feet on the ground, when a very slight hop/jump would have been plenty sufficient to make the catch. He does that? and he will likely see no more attempts like that.

Now, there IS a small chance that I am wrong here... and that Smith just really hates throwing deep. But all through his career, he really hasn't had the OL pass pro or the quality deep receivers to make deep passing a real priority. His best target was VD on seams and wheel routes, and he connected very well on those.

I was at the game so I could see the defensive coverage deep. In the first half the Jags were covering the deep pass, but in the second half they were pulling up the safeties and stacking the line leaving Avery with one on one down field every play. I assume the Chiefs did not take advantage of the down field coverage because they were trying to run the clock and keep Smith from getting hit. Makes sense with the lead and the way the defense was dominating.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week given both the Chiefs and Cowboys will dissect that game film. If the Cowboys stack the line from the beginning the Chiefs are going to have to take shots down field.

Jakemall 09-10-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9959908)
It's not. It's just odd that Alice seems alergic to them even when circumstances dictates that he should have had massive yardage accumlated.

Can't disagree about the yardage. He's put on a few shows...but very few. He does seem to be clutch though..which in my opinion is more important. When his back is against the wall, he comes out swinging..and with this KC defense, that just might be a perfect fit short of having a Rogers, Brees, Manning, Brady on the team.

I wouldn't expect many 300 yard games from him.

BigCatDaddy 09-10-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9959922)
Can't disagree about the yardage. He's put on a few shows...but very few. <b>He does seem to be clutch</b> though..which in my opinion is more important. When his back is against the wall, he comes out swinging..and with this KC defense, that just might be a perfect fit short of having a Rogers, Brees, Manning, Brady on the team.

I wouldn't expect many 300 yard games from him.

That's a very under rated trait to have in a QB. We'll have to see it here and I hope we do. I still think it's foolish to think being able to whip out 350-400 yards through the air isn't an asset for a QB. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that now after Sunday.

Sandy Vagina 09-10-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 9959914)
I was at the game so I could see the defensive coverage deep. In the first half the Jags were covering the deep pass, but in the second half they were pulling up the safeties and stacking the line leaving Avery with one on one down field every play. I assume the Chiefs did not take advantage of the down field coverage because they were trying to run the clock and keep Smith from getting hit. Makes sense with the lead and the way the defense was dominating.

It will be interesting to see what happens next week given both the Chiefs and Cowboys will dissect that game film. If the Cowboys stack the line from the beginning the Chiefs are going to have to take shots down field.

I'll be hoping they do, in that case. Would love for Smith to hit a handful of deep ones, so people can relax and stop :deevee: .

Jakemall 09-10-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9959946)
That's a very under rated trait to have in a QB. We'll have to see it here and I hope we do. I still think it's foolish to think being able to whip out 350-400 yards through the air isn't an asset for a QB. I'm sure you of all people can appreciate that now after Sunday.

The last time Kaep threw for 300 yards it resulted in a lost superbowl. I've heard it said that YPA is probably a better indicator of how well a QB is playing than total yards. It's fun to watch, but I think if you broke it down statistically, throwing 300+ yards probably has very little correlation with wins. That said, I agree that being ABLE to whip out big passing games is always an asset.

As a 9er fan I can say that this is the best receiving core the 9ers have had since Owens left. I'm not trying to suggest that Alex could or could not have done it also. I think Kaep is benefiting what is the most offensive talent the team has had since the glory years. I also think that Kaep might be the most talented QB in the NFL that won't be retiring in the next few years.

SAUTO 09-10-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 9960014)
The last time Kaep threw for 300 yards it resulted in a lost superbowl. I've heard it said that YPA is probably a better indicator of how well a QB is playing than total yards. It's fun to watch, but I think if you broke it down statistically, throwing 300+ yards probably has very little correlation with wins. That said, I agree that being ABLE to whip out big passing games is always an asset.

As a 9er fan I can say that this is the best receiving core the 9ers have had since Owens left. I'm not trying to suggest that Alex could or could not have done it also. I think Kaep is benefiting what is the most offensive talent the team has had since the glory years. I also think that Kaep might be the most talented QB in the NFL that won't be retiring in the next few years.

actually the last time kapernick threw for over 300 they beat green bay.

Jakemall 09-10-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9960030)
actually the last time kapernick threw for over 300 they beat green bay.

That was this time. The last time was in the superbowl :harumph:

What's more is that he has only done it twice. Of course the response to that is that he's only had a half season to do it in and Alex has had 8 years.

saphojunkie 09-10-2013 12:14 PM

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update the OP with weekly results:

saphojunkie 09-10-2013 12:17 PM

GENO SMITH - 1-0
GP....COMP....ATT....PERC....YDS....AVG....TD...LONG....INT....FUM....QBR....RAT
1.......24........38......63.2.....256....6.74....1......26........1.......1........48.5...80.6

ALEX SMITH - 1-0
GP....COMP....ATT....PERC....YDS....AVG....TD...LONG....INT....FUM....QBR....RAT
1.......21........34......61.8.....173....5.09.....2.....26.......0.......0.......66.3...94.4

9er guy 09-10-2013 01:13 PM

Geno is gonna get that work on Thursday.

BigCatDaddy 09-10-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9960209)
Geno is gonna get that work on Thursday.

That's going to be tough. They will have to put up some points and I think basically the Jets/Jags offense are about same outside the QB's. Not much to work with. They'll need at least 21.

9er guy 09-10-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9960227)
That's going to be tough. They will have to put up some points and I think basically the Jets/Jags offense it about same outside the QB's. Not much to work with.

"Get that work" means he's gonna lose.

No matter what race you are, I'm sure you feel super white right now.

BigCatDaddy 09-10-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9960235)
"Get that work" means he's gonna lose.

No matter what race you are, I'm sure you feel super white right now.

LMAO Yes, I know. Didn't my response indicate that I know what you were saying? Tough game, he doesn't have shit to work with, need a lot of points to win blah blah blah.

But yes "Get that work" is a phrase I wouldn't use and would laugh at anyone that did.

9er guy 09-10-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9960262)
LMAO Yes, I know. Didn't my response indicate that I know what you were saying? Tough game, he doesn't have shit to work with, need a lot of points to win blah blah blah.

I have no idea. LOL. :jester:

BigCatDaddy 09-10-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy (Post 9960270)
I have no idea. LOL. :jester:

My boyz Genoz gonnas get twerked Tursday!

There, I translated. That means I roughly agree.


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