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duncan_idaho 07-13-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 13626476)
I can’t remember, why did we dump him?


He wasn’t good in his chances as a pro and they were running out of roster space. He had no options left.

duncan_idaho 07-13-2018 07:31 AM

Matias (41) and Lee (49) both check in on Baseball Prospectus’s mid-season Top 50.

Write ups are behind the pay wall, but basically they say Matias’ power and defense are legit and that you can believe in hit tool improvement due to his athleticism. Lee’s approach and OBp skills and raw power are cited. Question marks about translating power to games, if he can stick in CF.

I tend to favor Baseball Prospectus more than Baseball America. Think BP is more of a scout-driven thing and a better recognition of true upside. BA is a little more conservative and more focused on performance and how far the player has advanced through the minors.

Mecca 07-13-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13626489)
Matias (41) and Lee (49) both check in on Baseball Prospectus’s mid-season Top 50.

Write ups are behind the pay wall, but basically they say Matias’ power and defense are legit and that you can believe in hit tool improvement due to his athleticism. Lee’s approach and OBp skills and raw power are cited. Question marks about translating power to games, if he can stick in CF.

I tend to favor Baseball Prospectus more than Baseball America. Think BP is more of a scout-driven thing and a better recognition of true upside. BA is a little more conservative and more focused on performance and how far the player has advanced through the minors.

It's nice a few guys have moved into the rankings...those are what the corner outfielders in 3-4 years?

I just hope the Royals embrace that they are going to be bad for a few years and take their high picks, that seems to be the way to win now.

ChiefsCountry 07-13-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 13626476)
I can’t remember, why did we dump him?

Royals cut him. Blue Jays cutted him after a year there after the Royals dumped him.

Mecca 07-13-2018 08:00 AM

Jeffress is no different than a lot of relievers, he bounced around quite a bit before really finding it.

WhawhaWhat 07-13-2018 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13626513)
Jeffress is no different than a lot of relievers, he bounced around quite a bit before really finding it.

Plus he had alcohol and drug problems. He's been suspended a few times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Jeffress

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On August 30, 2007, Jeffress was suspended for 50 games after testing positive for "a drug of abuse," which was reportedly marijuana. This was not his first positive test; he was given a warning for his first offense. In June 2009, he tested positive a third time and was suspended for 100 games. One more positive test will result in a lifetime ban for Jeffress.

On August 26, 2016, Jeffress was arrested for driving while intoxicated.

Prison Bitch 07-13-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13626485)
and they were running out of roster space. He had no options left.

This is the answer. Our bullpen was stacked at the time.

siberian khatru 07-13-2018 08:33 AM

Poor Hosmer just keeps spiraling deeper into the black hole. He's at .250/.321/.396 on the season. Hitting .147/.190/.179 over the last month.

We've all seen that before. His slumps can be epic.

duncan_idaho 07-13-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13626501)
It's nice a few guys have moved into the rankings...those are what the corner outfielders in 3-4 years?



I just hope the Royals embrace that they are going to be bad for a few years and take their high picks, that seems to be the way to win now.


Lee May be able to handle CF. If he can, his profile jumps a ton. High OBP with 20 HR pop is ok/nice for a corner... it’s plus for a CF.

Matias is a RF the whole way. 70 grade arm (regularly clocked in 90s on throws from OF). He actually is a decent runner, average or maybe a little better.

MJ Melendez also made their “just missed” list - around a dozen players. So, that would be 3 top 100 guys on BP’s list, for sure, if they were doing that many. Not great but not awful either.

Titty Meat 07-13-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13626574)
Poor Hosmer just keeps spiraling deeper into the black hole. He's at .250/.321/.396 on the season. Hitting .147/.190/.179 over the last month.

We've all seen that before. His slumps can be epic.

It should be concerning Dayton offered that bum a contract. Could you imagine having his salary on the books along with Gordon and Kennedys? Oh boy.

Mecca 07-13-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13626681)
Lee May be able to handle CF. If he can, his profile jumps a ton. High OBP with 20 HR pop is ok/nice for a corner... it’s plus for a CF.

Matias is a RF the whole way. 70 grade arm (regularly clocked in 90s on throws from OF). He actually is a decent runner, average or maybe a little better.

MJ Melendez also made their “just missed” list - around a dozen players. So, that would be 3 top 100 guys on BP’s list, for sure, if they were doing that many. Not great but not awful either.

Well that's good have to hope a few more guys can spring in there in the next year.

SAUTO 07-13-2018 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 13626476)
I can’t remember, why did we dump him?

He wouldn't quit smoking ganja iirc

OmahaChief 07-13-2018 10:30 AM

Just saw Kowar started for Lexington last night and got through 1/3 of an inning. 3 hits 2 walks and 3 ER and 1 K. Hope it was first start jitters.

Chiefspants 07-13-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13626574)
Poor Hosmer just keeps spiraling deeper into the black hole. He's at .250/.321/.396 on the season. Hitting .147/.190/.179 over the last month.

We've all seen that before. His slumps can be epic.

The Padres subreddit is starting to freak out - Beyond the Box Score and Fangraphs released scathing articles about Hos in the last week. Yesterday the subreddit discovered an old article that talked about Hos' batting coach, his brother.

The subreddit talked about how Matt Stairs will likely be able to get him to shorten his swing after this slump. I hope they're right - maybe getting his heat in a bigger market will inspire Hos to change, but we'll see.

The thing that fascinated me about Hos is that he really never changed as a player from his rookie season to his last. He was who he was - and he will forever be a hero for that in KC, we accepted him for who he was - but it might be a different story in SD now that he's landed that contract.

I hope he figures it out - because I wish him nothing but the best and would build the statue for him myself if I could

duncan_idaho 07-13-2018 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief (Post 13626724)
Just saw Kowar started for Lexington last night and got through 1/3 of an inning. 3 hits 2 walks and 3 ER and 1 K. Hope it was first start jitters.


He was on a 30-pitch limit. Just a matter of getting him work. I wouldn’t read anything into what he does this year, especially coming off a mini-shutdown.

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 13626729)
The Padres subreddit is starting to freak out - Beyond the Box Score and Fangraphs released scathing articles about Hos in the last week. Yesterday the subreddit discovered an old article that talked about Hos' batting coach, his brother.



They talked about how Matt Stairs will likely be able to get him to shorten his swing after this slump. I hope they're right - maybe getting his heat in a bigger market will inspire Hos to change, but we'll see.



The thing that fascinated me about Hos is that he really never changed as a player from his rookie season to his last. He was who he was - and he will forever be a hero for that in KC, we accepted him for who he was - but it might be a different story in SD now that he's landed that contract.



I hope he figures it out - because I wish him nothing but the best and would build the statue for him myself if I could


The only person who is going to get Hosmer to change his swing is his brother. We learned that in KC. I’ll be floored if he does anything differently, no matter how much trash talk he garners.

He’s stubborn enough about his approach that it got Kevin Seitzer fired and replaced with a pair of incompetent yes men (Jack Maloof and Andre David) who would let Hosmer do what he wanted and stop hounding him to make major changes.


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