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Mecca 02-10-2009 06:48 PM
If you really think spreading out the field and leaving your OT's unprotected helps the OL, you need to go back to football school.

Micjones 02-10-2009 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5477491)
The quotation says "60 plays" not "60 pass attempts."
Read it again...

"throwing the ball for 60 plays a game"

dirk digler 02-10-2009 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477463)
If you're a big fan of the spread check this out...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202128

"This is America, so we love to see the ball fly all over the place. But if you are going to make a living in the National Football League, you can't do it in the spread or shotgun formation, throwing the ball for 60 plays a game," Terry Robiskie said. "In the NFL, if you repeatedly leave those two tackles open, they are going to get beat. You can say it's a quick offense, and the ball is going to come out quick. That's accurate. But just as the ball comes out, that $80 million quarterback is going to get hit in his mouth and hit often. That's just the history of this game.

"On this level there are too many Jason Taylors and Bruce Smiths in this world, and they will be better than your best tackle."
When was that quote? I mean the Pats live out of the spread and shotgun and so do the Colts

DeezNutz 02-10-2009 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477494)
Is that coach currently working?
Gruden.

TeeeeBooowww on the sweep.

Micjones 02-10-2009 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477486)
60 is an purposely exaggerated number....it's saying when you are throwing at a 2-1 even 3-1 rate out of the shotgun constantly you are begging for your QB to get beat around.
Okay. At least you agree that the number's exaggerated.

I tend to agree though.

Mecca 02-10-2009 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5477499)
When was that quote? I mean the Pats live out of the spread and shotgun and so do the Colts
Are you aware that the Colts base formation involves 2 TE's one lined up next to the OT?

They are not leaving their OT's open..same for the Patriots.

DeezNutz 02-10-2009 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5477498)
Read it again...

"throwing the ball for 60 plays a game"
Right. Plays are different from attempts.

Let's not get this thing twisted.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5477465)
You realize that Sanchez has superb footwork right now, don't you?
yes if you read you would see that i'm ALL FOR sanchez.

MIAdragon 02-10-2009 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477467)
This.

Croyle was sacked 1 time in 2 starts: .5 sacks per game.

Huard was sacked 4 times in 3 starts: 1.3 sacks per game.

Thigpen was sacked 21 times in 11 starts: 1.9 sacks per game.


Thigpen got hit WAY more, which is what happens in the spread, yet he stayed healthy.
Some of the benefits of the spread

1. They create one on one match ups.
2. They allow you to take advantage of the speed your team has.
3. They limit the defense by formation.
4. They reduce blitzing.
5. They reduce the number of blocks that need to be made.
6. They reduce the amount of time that blocks have to be held.

No way the spread contributes to hits on the QB, its the exact opp.

Tiger's Fan 02-10-2009 06:51 PM
Substitute the name "Thigpen" for the name "Croyle", and these are last years posts.

Micjones 02-10-2009 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5477496)
If you really think spreading out the field and leaving your OT's unprotected helps the OL, you need to go back to football school.
I don't and it doesn't.

No argument there.

Mecca 02-10-2009 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MIAdragon (Post 5477507)
Some of the benefits of the spread

1. They create one on one match ups.
2. They allow you to take advantage of the speed your team has.
3. They limit the defense by formation.
4. They reduce blitzing.
5. They reduce the number of blocks that need to be made.
6. They reduce the amount of time that blocks have to be held.

No way the spread contributes to hits on the QB, its the exact opp.
You need some football school.....I don't know if you are aware of this but if you watch Baltimore play if you lineup in a spread formation they blitz it every single time.

Thig Lyfe 02-10-2009 06:52 PM
This is my stance on Thigpen:

1. He was one of the few highlights of this past season.
2. I don't believe he should be handed the starting job, but I also think he has enough talent to be able to earn it in TC.
3. A competent coaching staff could turn him into a franchise QB...
4. BUT, if there's an opportunity to draft a top QB this year, it would be silly not to take it.
5. Ultimately, none of this matters, because it's up to Pioli. And I trust his opinions (whatever they may be) more than those of anybody on the board. Even Mecca.

Micjones 02-10-2009 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5477504)
Right. Plays are different from attempts.

Let's not get this thing twisted.
*Sigh*

"Throwing for 60 plays"
There's no way to twist that. Mecca himself said the number was exaggerated.

I understood the quote. YOU...um...did not.

SAUTO 02-10-2009 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5477467)
This.

Croyle was sacked 1 time in 2 starts: .5 sacks per game.

Huard was sacked 4 times in 3 starts: 1.3 sacks per game.

Thigpen was sacked 21 times in 11 starts: 1.9 sacks per game.


Thigpen got hit WAY more, which is what happens in the spread, yet he stayed healthy.
why not give the whole story? pass attempts. he also had MANY more pass attempts per game than either


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