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doomy3 02-18-2009 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506114)
What difference is Calvin Johnson making for the Lions? What difference did Joey Harrington make for the Lions? What difference did Barry Sanders make for the Lions?
Mecca, do you want to answer this, since you were screaming like a little girl about Sims?

notorious 02-18-2009 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506155)
Agreed. Completely.
Back to the original Thread now. IMO Curry is not worth a #3 pick. No way. I want to take a chance at a game changer at #3. Too bad there probably won't be one available by then....... : (

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506161)
Don't worry man we'll take Curry on our quest back to 8-8.
Mecca don't you trust Pioli to make the best decision for this team? Carl isn't here anymore so lighten up a little.

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506161)
Don't worry man we'll take Curry on our quest back to 8-8.
You'd like that. If Sanchez isn't the pick, you'd hope that the first rounder fails and the team fails just so you could say "I told you so".

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506168)
Ideally, sure.

But this is where you get into arguments about overall positional value. Remember Rain Man's thread about how many Pro Bowls a QB would need to make to be equal value to Will Shields?

And what was ****ing stupid is that otherwise intelligent posters were voting for shit like 7 or 8.

Are you ****ing kidding me? No one can be this ****ing dense when it comes to the QB position.

Sorry in advance to anyone that voted even somewhat high on this poll. Interesting sentence construction by me. Being high would be the only excuse I'm accepting.
No, but you can't be happy with an average QB at 3. Same as if Curry is drafted there, the expectation is to be a Ray Lewis type. At 3, Sanchez can't be Jake Delhomme.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506171)
Mecca, do you want to answer this, since you were screaming like a little girl about Sims?
This will be some awesome point I'm sure.....

The point should be without a QB you are nothing.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506154)
This holds true for ALL positions, so if the Chiefs do draft Sanchez, he better be a top 5 NFL QB.
Top 5 what? Wins? TD's? Yardage?

At #3, you want a superstar player, period. Whether it's DE, CB, RB, LT or QB. You'd better be drafting an Orlando Pace, Mario Williams, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders, Donovan McNabb type guy.

Aaron Curry is not a game-changing, difference maker. Therefore, he should not be selected with the #3 overall pick.

Pewiod.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506180)
You'd like that. If Sanchez isn't the pick, you'd hope that the first rounder fails and the team fails just so you could say "I told you so".
Nah I'm just generally right, lets ask Tamba Hali about it.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506178)
Mecca don't you trust Pioli to make the best decision for this team? Carl isn't here anymore so lighten up a little.
If we take Aaron Curry with a top 5 pick I don't care if God himself made the pick I'm going to call it ****in reeruned.

notorious 02-18-2009 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506178)
Mecca don't you trust Pioli to make the best decision for this team? Carl isn't here anymore so lighten up a little.
You are right, we are all getting pumped over something we have 0 control over. The scary thing is, for the first time in 19 years we will have no clue about what player we are going to pick in the draft.

Sounds like fun to me!

Well, so far, until somebody's feelings get hurt LOL.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506183)
Top 5 what? Wins? TD's? Yardage?

At #3, you want a superstar player, period. Whether it's DE, CB, RB, LT or QB. You'd better be drafting an Orlando Pace, Mario Williams, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders, Donovan McNabb type guy.

Aaron Curry is not a game-changing, difference maker. Therefore, he should not be selected with the #3 overall pick.

Pewiod.
I agree with this.

I won't say that Curry isn't a difference maker though. Haven't seen him play enough

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506186)
Nah I'm just generally right, lets ask Tamba Hali about it.
Lets ask Gholston, Jake Long and Matt Leinart.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506181)
No, but you can't be happy with an average QB at 3. Same as if Curry is drafted there, the expectation is to be a Ray Lewis type. At 3, Sanchez can't be Jake Delhomme.
A top 10 QB is more valuable than a top 5 LB that doesn't rush the passer....

The Titans would trade Keith Bulluck for Roethlisberger in a second and they'd be better off.

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506189)
You are right, we are all getting pumped over something we have 0 control over. The scary thing is, for the first time in 19 years we will have no clue about what player we are going to pick in the draft.

Sounds like fun to me!
New England wasnt that hard to figure out who they were drafting.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506181)
No, but you can't be happy with an average QB at 3. Same as if Curry is drafted there, the expectation is to be a Ray Lewis type. At 3, Sanchez can't be Jake Delhomme.
It would be disappointing, for sure.

But, worst case scenario, the QB provides solid, steady play (makes a Pro Bowl or two) for 10 years, the LB would have to do a shit ton more to surpass this overall solid, if unspectacular, value.


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