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OnTheWarpath15 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 6116351)
I'm not saying that doesn't sound good, but Pioli/Haley have a pass this year, as far as I'm concerned. I don't know this for a fact, but I'd be willing to say that it isn't Pioli/Haley wanting to be 30+ million under the cap. As far as the drafting, well, it could have been better, but give it time.

Sorry, but I'm not buying the idea that Clark Hunt is to blame for not even being above the salary floor.

That 1st year in NE, they brought in over 20 street FA's, and gave out less than $2M in guaranteed money (IIRC) COMBINED.

That almost impossible to do in today's NFL.

Saccopoo 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6116348)
Didn't you hear?? If the Chiefs would have drafted a RT with the number 3 pick,our O line would have been fixed,at least that is what I heard

So, are you saying it's better just the way it is?

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6115608)
No way the executive of the decade could be a part of something so terrible. Not possible.

Come on Deez, you know as well as I do that success can not hinge upon the talent you're given to work with.
It's ALL coaching.
ALL of it.

chiefs1111 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116360)
That's cause half the people that post here can't post logically it's either all one end or the other.

Also our fan base more than any other overvalues OL, you need a good one but it doesn't need to be a legendary crew of all first round draft choices either.

At the very least the Chiefs could have drafted Duke Robinson,who I believe was still there in the 6th round??? He would be better than Goff and that would of helped.

Mecca 09-27-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 6116363)
Surely you're aware that it was Miami that made him a tackle.

And them being willing to trade him or cut him made it pretty obvious how good of a tackle he was.

OnTheWarpath15 09-27-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 6116354)
What part of "might" didn't you get?

Because it doesn't have a ****ing thing to do with it.

Mecca 09-27-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6116368)
At the very least the Chiefs could have drafted Duke Robinson,who I believe was still there in the 6th round??? He would be better than Goff and that would of helped.

Hey don't tell me I argued hard for Robinson on the 2nd day of the draft.

dirk digler 09-27-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116360)
That's cause half the people that post here can't post logically it's either all one end or the other.

Also our fan base more than any other overvalues OL, you need a good one but it doesn't need to be a legendary crew of all first round draft choices either.

Well when you have had great O-Lines for 18 years it is hard to see a line as bad as this one for the last 2-3 years.

Bowser 09-27-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6116364)
Sorry, but I'm not buying the idea that Clark Hunt is to blame for not even being above the salary floor.

That 1st year in NE, they brought in over 20 street FA's, and gave out less than $2M in guaranteed money (IIRC) COMBINED.

That almost impossible to do in today's NFL.

A lot has changed in 9 years.

It's all just speculation on our part, but I can't believe Piloi/Haley took alook at this roster when they got here and thought a bunch of rookies and a couple of FA's would be all we need. And there is being under the cap, then there is what the Chiefs are.

petegz28 09-27-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6116372)
Because it doesn't have a ****ing thing to do with it.

Sure it doesn't.....:shake:

That's why TG left....

BigRock 09-27-2009 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6116346)
This team would be better right now, and it's future looking bright if Clark had hired Eric Decosta, who in turn would have hired Rex Ryan.

Why is that assumed to be true? Before Pioli was hired, be it here or in Cleveland, all anyone talked about was how he was going to hire Josh McDaniels or Kirk Ferentz. There's no guarantees with such things.

petegz28 09-27-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116369)
And them being willing to trade him or cut him made it pretty obvious how good of a tackle he was.

Not saying he is Roaf but isn't that what the Saints thought of Willie? :shrug:

chiefs1111 09-27-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6116373)
Hey don't tell me I argued hard for Robinson on the 2nd day of the draft.

Oh I know you did and so did I. It drove me nuts that we kept passing him up. Does anyone happen to know why he fell so far??? did he have Character problems or something??

Mecca 09-27-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111 (Post 6116392)
Oh I know you did and so did I. It drove me nuts that we kept passing him up. Does anyone happen to know why he fell so far??? did he have Character problems or something??

Because during the combine/workout period he was viewed as being lazy. It's a real stunner that a 6'5 340lb man would be a little lazy in the offseason eh?

chiefs1111 09-27-2009 05:07 PM

Cincy just took the lead on Pittsburgh 23-20 with 14 seconds left


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