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Mecca 08-31-2010 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6966316)
Alex Smith won't beat the Chiefs. And if you rely on Mays to defend Charles or McCluster the Chiefs will win.
He won't have to, he has a superior team, and I wasn't even remotely inferring that Mays would cover them, just that he throws killshots and with the hits I've seen McCluster take already..

Actually McCluster facing the team with Pat Willis is a scary thought.

Marcellus 08-31-2010 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6966209)
The 49ers are a Chiefs true fans wet dream other than Smith was a #1 pick.

3 first round OL, check.
Great RB check.
Great TE check.
Playmakers on the outside check.

Very sold defense that has one of the best players in the league on it..check.

Really Alex Smith should at the very least be average with what's around him, the talent is there so we'll see how he does.

That team is far ahead of the Chiefs, they could beat the Chiefs handing off up the middle every play. Also with the passes Cassel throws with Pat Willis roaming that could be ugly...
So SF built a team exactly the way you have repeatedly said you wouldn't (OL, TE etc...) with the exception of the #1 pick being on a QB (a bad one at that) and yet SF is still miles ahead of KC?

They basically spent 1 draft pick the way you "would do it" on a QB who is the weak link of the team. They spent 4 1st rounders on OL and TE which if the Chiefs had done you would be screaming ratart at the top of your lungs.

So either you are wrong, or you are wrong.

SAUTO 08-31-2010 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6966209)
The 49ers are a Chiefs true fans wet dream other than Smith was a #1 pick.
so they actually arent a "true fans wet dream" according to your definition?

Ralphy Boy 08-31-2010 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6965589)
I've been watching those guys snap for snap. Jackson isn't getting much push, but he's hitting the right gaps which is a huge step forward from last year. Dorsey's drawing a ton of doubles and he's holding his ground. I don't know how good Dorsey will be, so that's a wild card. I know Jackson's not going to be great, but I think he can be increasingly consistently in the right place this season.

As much shit as the D-line has gotten, in the last 2 games, they didn't make a lot of mental mistakes. And that's despite the fact that Romeo hasn't been aggressive with the blitzes. Most of our sacks/hurries the past two games, between Vrabel, Demorrio, Arenas, and even Studebaker were the result of LBs running through enormous holes, which is what our D-line is supposed to be doing.

So the D-linemen are supposed to be "opening holes up front"?

Pasta Little Brioni 08-31-2010 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6966383)
so they actually arent a "true fans wet dream" according to your definition?
He pretty much owned himself ROFL

Ralphy Boy 08-31-2010 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6965638)
Also, to be fair, Arenas will help our pass rush a lot too. As will adding Berry and Lewis in the secondary.
Seriously? You're counting on a 5'9" nickleback to help our pass rush? Gimmick much?

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6965643)
It's a complete oversimplification of the facts.

We walked into the offseason with a shitty defense and a shitty offense. In an uncapped year, our best shot at free agents were free agents that we didn't have a shot at and 7 draft picks.

If they chose defense, they would have ignored a shitty offense. If they chose offense, which they did, they would have ignored a shitty defense.

We were going to suck on one side of the ball no matter what our strategy.
We had the 23rd ranked scoring offense and the 30th ranked scoring defense to go with the 2nd worst run defense and 2nd worst pass rush in the league. Perhaps oversimplification would be a good thing.



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Originally Posted by GoHuge39 (Post 6966104)
Man I must really have drank the kool-Aid!!!! 10-6 which I doubt they go, but when I go through all the games that's what I come out with. Never even thought they could go 10-6, but you look at their schedule and it couldn't get much easier than that for a team.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with you predicting that record. If it gives you hope and makes you attend/watch a game, then it is a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I think your absolutely f-ing nuts and we'll be lucky to finish 6 & 10.
For the life of me I can't figure out why I watch a game I think they'll lose, I shouldn't waste the time but I do.

Windcatcher 08-31-2010 10:02 AM
Based on what I have seen in the off season we have nowhere to go but up especially with a soft division and schedule. My take 6 & 10. Just need to show that we can close out a game or two more than we did last year.

BossChief 08-31-2010 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6966482)
Seriously? You're counting on a 5'9" nickleback to help our pass rush? Gimmick much?
Javier Arenas is a terrific blitzer. He had 5 sacks in 13 games last year and now plays for a coordinator that likes to blitz corners.

Also, one of our major weaknesses last year was the slot guy. It allowed quarterbacks to get out of trouble quite often. Whether it be Richardson, Leggett, Washington or Travis Daniels...they got burnt consistently. Arenas should be solid in that role. If the slot guy was covered in even 1/3 of those third and longs, our defense gets off the field that much more and it gives guys like Hali and Studebaker more time to close on the quarterback and eventually gives the defense more time to rest.

He is also an exciting returner and should help put some butts in the seats, taking us one step closer to getting our home field advantage back and most knowledgeable fans understand how much that also helps the pass rush and the defense overall.

So, call it what you will, but the guy will indeed help the pass rush both directly and indirectly.

Mecca 08-31-2010 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 6966402)
He pretty much owned himself ROFL
They aren't a bowl team so how is that owning yourself?

All they've done is set themselves up to lose in the playoffs and they're better than the shit hole teams. Being light years ahead of the Chiefs means I owned myself eh, well I guess some don't realize the Chiefs are a shithole team.

The 49ers have built to the team that loses in the playoffs to the teams with QB's.

SAUTO 08-31-2010 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6967149)
They aren't a bowl team so how is that owning yourself?

All they've done is set themselves up to lose in the playoffs and they're better than the shit hole teams. Being light years ahead of the Chiefs means I owned myself eh, well I guess some don't realize the Chiefs are a shithole team.

The 49ers have built to the team that loses in the playoffs to the teams with QB's.
but they took a QB #1 so that ****s the "true fans wet dream" theory.


and yeah i thought that would be too complicated for you to figure out

BigMeatballDave 10-03-2010 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6966270)
They'll just have Taylor Mays do it.

The difference in the Eagles and the 49ers is the 49ers line is better and they are committed to running the ball.

With that team it's one or the other do you let Gore throw up 150+ yards on you or do you come up in the box and get beat by Davis...this doesn't even factor in that Crabtree who looked far better than I thought he would as a rookie has a full training camp and all that.

I like th 49ers to be an easy playoff team this year.
ROFL

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2010 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6967149)
They aren't a bowl team so how is that owning yourself?

All they've done is set themselves up to lose in the playoffs and they're better than the shit hole teams. Being light years ahead of the Chiefs means I owned myself eh, well I guess some don't realize the Chiefs are a shithole team.

The 49ers have built to the team that loses in the playoffs to the teams with QB's.
:spock: The point was taking a QB number 1 overall goes against everything that you've pegged as "True Fan"

BTW That "shithole team" just put a hurtin on the team they are lightyears behind ROFL

-King- 10-03-2010 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7056811)
:spock: The point was taking a QB number 1 overall goes against everything that you've pegged as "True Fan"

BTW That "shithole team" just put a hurtin on the team they are lightyears behind ROFL
Well at least Taylor mays delivered some killshots in the game



Errr..... Nevermind
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BossChief 10-03-2010 12:40 PM
Damn, I had a lot of swing and misses in this thread.

Im glad Im wrong in this instance

JD10367 10-17-2010 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6965106)
1 Sep 13 SD @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 10:15 PM WIN (it's game one, what the hell, why not)
2 Sep 19 KC @ CLE Cleveland Browns Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
3 Sep 26 SF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
4 Bye

5 Oct 10 KC @ IND Lucas Oil Stadium 1:00 PM LOSS
6 Oct 17 KC @ HOU Reliant Stadium 1:00 PM LOSS
7 Oct 24 JAC @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
8 Oct 31 BUF @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
9 Nov 07 KC @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 4:15 PM WIN
10 Nov 14 KC @ DEN Invesco Field at Mile High 4:05 PM LOSS
11 Nov 21 ARI @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
12 Nov 28 KC @ SEA Qwest Field 4:05 PM WIN
13 Dec 05 DEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
14 Dec 12 KC @ SD Qualcomm Stadium 4:15 PM LOSS
15 Dec 19 KC @ STL Edward Jones Dome 1:00 PM WIN
16 Dec 26 TEN @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN
17 Jan 02 OAK @ KC Arrowhead Stadium 1:00 PM WIN

12-4.

(Hey, what the hell. I bet I'm the only person who'll predict this, and if it happens I'll look like a frickin' GENIUS!) :D
Bump.

I'm right on schedule.

:)


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