Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7989171)

The NBA hate on this site is basically closet racism rearing it's ugly head.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7989157)

6'0'' AND HAD A HOOP IN MY DRIVEWAY BITCHES! I ONCE GOT DUNKED ON BY KALEN GRIMES IN A PICKUP GAME AT THE MIZZOU REC!

Guess what - nobody gives a **** either way. Quit taking bait; it makes you look like more of an insecure d-bag than vailpass calling you an insecure d-bag ever could.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7988941)

I dont care too much about regular season NBA or NHL but they are fun to go to in person. Much better than watching on TV IMO. To each his own....

Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 7988262)

who gives a flying ****

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 7987604)

I could care less if the NBA season is cancelled. In fact, I could care less about the NBA folded.

Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 7989220)

NHL,NFL ALL THE WAY,IN FACT NHL IS SLIGHTLY MORE EXCITING THAN THE NFL

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7989128)

Watch warmups if you ever get a chance.

They just don't miss. When they get a chance to set and fire, they simply do not miss. In games they might on occasion because of nerves or tired legs, but when they're just out there shooting around with fresh legs and no defenders, they hit probably 90% of the shots they take.

Then you watch the college kids do it - they aren't even that successful in a layup line.

You don't realize how damn hard that game is until you get a feel for just how freakish the people that play it are.

But whatever - some dumbass that loves watching scrappy walk-ons from Indiana miss open 14 footers says that the NBA doesn't have fundamentals.

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 7989249)

This.


Even Rajon Rondo makes warm up shots with ease. Its crazy.


But I went to my first NBA game last year. Sixers vs. Kings. No great athletes other than Evans, but I was impressed. Of all things, I think basketball translates to the tv the worst. You can't compare live basketball to watching it on tv.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7988466)

It's wrong.

Go ahead and try to put the 'fundamentally sound' Princeton Tigers in an offense as relatively braindead as Mike Brown's - they'd trip over their own feet. NBA offenses (and defenses) for that matter are miles ahead of the stuff they use in college.

The fundamentals in the NBA are actually exceptional. The passing is off the charts good, but the length of defenders is so incredible that they still tip some of them away. It's not a bad pass, it's just that they're playing on a court that was designed at a time when 6'6'' was a damn behemoth and now it's a shooting guard.

There's simply not a lot of room on an NBA court anymore. These guys are freakin' huge and they're fast. To be able to get a pass into the interior all is pretty impressive and it generally comes off some pretty nifty screens or exterior passing before the entry pass is even possible. These guys are able to control their dribble while they're getting mugged coming through the lane, they can switch hands in the air to finish and their court vision is remarkable.

An earlier post was right - you need to see a game in person to realize just how hard that game is. From up high it looks like there's plenty of space and it looks pretty easy. Get down courtside and listen to it. It's violent (like punching a side of beef), its crowded and its chaotic. The fact that these guys can even see across the court given the fact that they're throwing over guys with 8-9 ft wingspans is pretty incredible. What they're able to do in the passing game alone is amazing when seen at the level these guys actually play at.

Then to watch them receive a pass in a triple threat position, execute a great jab step and go straight up for a 15 footer (only to still be contested on a play that would've had a college defender falling on his ass) and sink it is just a thing of beauty. 80% of the plays in the NBA are built around the fundamentals; passing, screens, positioning and shooting technique. Sometimes the D blows your play up and an iso is necessary, but it's almost always a losing proposition anymore because these guys are just too athletic on defense.

The 'streetball' talk is just wrong. Oh there's probably an element of latent racism to it, but mostly it's just wildly uninformed. The fundamentals in the NBA are stronger than they've ever been. The quality of play is higher than its ever been. It took me a very long time to come back around on the league after the Riley-era Knicks/Heat drove it into the abyss. I damn near left again after the 2005 Finals where the officials gave Dwayne Wade a championship. But there's just no question that the league right now is absolutely incredible.

If you don't want to watch - don't. But I get really tired of people that clearly don't understand the intricacies of the game trying to speak to how awful it is.

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 7989197)

just speaking the truth dj, failpass is an idiot that doesnt know jack shit about nba and acts like we should all listen to him because he doesnt like the way the game is played anymore or nobody cares about the nba, blah, blah blah......zzzzzzzzzzzzz

ratings have never been higher since the early 90's, athleticism and skill has never been higher, global popularity has never been higher. ya the league has its problems but they'll get them fixed and be back at it. idiots who have no idea what they're talking about piss me off sometimes, so do pretentious cardinal fans. my bad.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7989364)

I disagree with you about the strong fundamentals. Compare the fundamentals of say Argentina vs the USA when they play in the Olympics.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7989364)

I disagree with you about the strong fundamentals. Compare the fundamentals of say Argentina vs the USA when they play in the Olympics.