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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's? (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=261499)

LOL Allen Bailey made 10 tackles and 1 sack last year.

Really that's the standard of a good pick?

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8749042)

He's 11th out of 32.

That's OK. #3 pick should be a lot better, and not be a goddamn 5tec. Maybe if he was the 11th best at a different position.

I think he will be better this year, but agree about the 5 tech part.

I think we have some guys who can be difference makers or atleast have the skill to become that.

Guys like a Baldwin or Houston.

Some guys, like Belcher or Lewis, or Arenas aren't going to be difference makers. But that's ok.

That's why I told Aturnis, I'd give Poe (who hasn't played a down yet), Baldwin, Bailey, Hudson, and next years first for Cam Newton.

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8749047)

LOL Allen Bailey made 10 tackles and 1 sack last year.

Really that's the standard of a good pick?

A second round defensive lineman, it's ok.

Yeah, you're right.

Houston looks like he isnt "on pace to be a difference maker"

Neither does Hudson.

Or Bailey.

Try to keep in mind the lockout when trying to figure out what "on pace to be a difference maker" means for a rookie.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8749059)

Hurt Cam alot.

It's kind of a bullshit term since they could all bust at this point.

Here's what on pace to be a difference maker looks like, and **** the lockout:

http://i.usatoday.net/sports/_photos...Q5-x-large.jpg

To date, Pioli has drafted no one with that impact. He badly needs a home run like that.

They could all bust and some likely will. Thats life in the NFL.

It's made alot easier when you have a franchise qb in place. Spinning the wheels til then. I will say, Pioli has brought the roster along from where it was in say 08. But, where the hell else was there to go?

It's why, IMO, he went the wrong way with the qb. If you are gonna try and build a roster then put the qb in, you are behind.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8749021)

And to answer you again Aturnis, yes I would trade all of that for Cam.

In hindsight yes, but without knowing?

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8749063)

Berry?

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8749026)

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8/20/2011: Signed an eight-year, $128.5 million contract. The deal contains $50 million guaranteed, including a $10 million signing bonus and first-year roster bonus of $8 million. Fitzgerald is eligible for annual $250,000 workout bonuses in years two through eight. 2012: $5 million (+ $6 million roster bonus due 3/31), 2013: $5 million (+ $10 million option bonus due 3/15), 2014: $12.75 million, 2015: $8 million (+ $8 million roster bonus), 2016: $15 million, 2017-2018: $14.75 million, 2019: Free Agent

3/13/2012: Signed an eight-year, $150.5 million contract. The deal contains $60 million guaranteed, including a $16 million signing bonus, all of Johnson's base salaries in years one through four, and $9 million of his 2016 salary. 2012: $1.25 million (+ $4.5 million roster bonus), 2013: $5 million (+ $20 million option bonus), 2014: $5 million, 2015: $12.5 million, 2016: $15.95 million, 2017: $16.5 million, 2018: $17 million ($3.5 million guaranteed if team "buys back" final two years), 2019: $18.25 million, 2020: Free Agent

I wouldn't give Bowe anything in the neighborhood those deals.

It would be stupid.

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Originally Posted by Toad King (Post 8749000)

We underestimated a QB who threw 23 picks?

He's better than Cassel, that's all that matters.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8749069)

Berry?

No. Come on.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8749071)

I wouldn't give Bowe anything in the neighborhood those deals.

It would be stupid.

He deserves 80 percent of Fitz's deal.