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Contrarian 01-16-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert D. Ephius (Post 9324224)
I loved AR, still do. He is a great coach and I agree that time had run its course. Actually, his best years in Philly were 2000-2004 seasons. After that, he was mediocre at best. But trust me, you will grow tired of the same old responses game after game, loss after loss, year after year. Just b/c he is your coach now, don't act like you know him as a fan better then we do.

Personally, I wish for his sake that he took a year off to refocus for his own sake. I think that he just ruined his career by taking the Chiefs job. But I hope that I am wrong.

You are.

htismaqe 01-16-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect (Post 9324741)
The Eagles are stuck with Howie Roseman because Andy Reid liked him so much. What is so hard to understand about that? Roseman is Andy's guy.

The owner could fire him at any time, just like Clark fired Scott Pioli.

Face it, he's still on the staff because the OWNER wants him, not Andy Reid.

ChiefPassesALot 01-16-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9324912)
What does your 14 history have to do with the Chiefs front office set-up?

Nothing.

John Dorsey at his intro press conference: "I will have final say on personnel matters".

No one is saying that Andy Reid is the perfect HC. All HC's have flaws.

But I'll take my chances with Andy Reid compared with the likes of Chip Kelly.

Memo to Eagles fans:

You have expressed your opinion (bitterness) towards Andy Reid. No one cares. Move on.

Some are bitter. I am not. I'm giving you the FACTS. Reid is a freakin' bonehead at times and you will be sitting on your couch wondering WTF just happened??! at least 3 times a game. But I understand he's new and shiny to you so there's a honeymoon period. It seems like all you wanna do is bash chip kelly when you, nor I know what he will become. I have 14 years of Andy as my head coach, that's what I have.

Granted, he was the winningest coach in Eagles history, I won't deny him of what he did here. Keep us competitive for a large portion of the time, but wasn't able to get us over the hump, even with our best team under him in 2004. That was HIS ineptitude in the Super bowl. oh, and the cheating pats.

htismaqe 01-16-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPassesALot (Post 9324974)
Some are bitter. I am not. I'm giving you the FACTS. Reid is a freakin' bonehead at times and you will be sitting on your couch wondering WTF just happened??! at least 3 times a game. But I understand he's new and shiny to you so there's a honeymoon period. It seems like all you wanna do is bash chip kelly when you, nor I know what he will become. I have 14 years of Andy as my head coach, that's what I have.

Granted, he was the winningest coach in Eagles history, I won't deny him of what he did here. Keep us competite for a large portion of the time, but wasn't able to get us over the hump, even with our best team under him in 2004. That was HIS ineptitude in the Super bowl. oh, and the cheating pats.

Here's the thing.

We already KNOW the FACTS.

We don't need you to come here and offer sympathy. We don't need you to come here, period.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect (Post 9324927)
Fair enough. I am more than happy (elated, actually) to take my chances with Chip Kelly. We'll settle this next season.

For someone who likes to study history, as you claim to do with the past 14 years of the Eagles history, you are obviously blind to the history of college coaches jumping to the NFL without any prior NFL experience.

The track record for their success is terrible. The last HC to successfully go from college to the NFL without any prior NFL experience is Jimmy Johnson.

To make matters worse, Chip Kelly does not have the benefit of working with a competent GM.

Those are terrible odds for success.

ChiefSuspect 01-16-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9324973)
The owner could fire him at any time, just like Clark fired Scott *****.

Face it, he's still on the staff because the OWNER wants him, not Andy Reid.

Absolutely. He would never have risen through the ranks if Reid didn't permit it, though. This was Reid's empire. If he didn't like you, you were gone. It's as simple as that.

ChiefSuspect 01-16-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9324985)
For someone who likes to study history, as you claim to do with the past 14 years of the Eagles history, you are obviously blind to the history of college coaches jumping to the NFL without any prior NFL experience.

The track record for their success is terrible. The last HC to successfully go from college to the NFL without any prior NFL experience is Jimmy Johnson.

To make matters worse, Chip Kelly does not have the benefit of working with a competent GM.

Those are terrible odds for success.

Oh well. I guess we'll see. Our owner had the foresight to hire Andy Reid which, according to you, was a terrific decision. So I'd figure you'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

ChiefPassesALot 01-16-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9324983)
Here's the thing.

We already KNOW the FACTS.

We don't need you to come here and offer sympathy. We don't need you to come here, period.

No. What you KNOW is what ESPN and the Chiefs organization has spoonfed you.

ChiefPassesALot 01-16-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus (Post 9324985)
For someone who likes to study history, as you claim to do with the past 14 years of the Eagles history, you are obviously blind to the history of college coaches jumping to the NFL without any prior NFL experience.

The track record for their success is terrible. The last HC to successfully go from college to the NFL without any prior NFL experience is Jimmy Johnson.

To make matters worse, Chip Kelly does not have the benefit of working with a competent GM.

Those are terrible odds for success.

You do a LOT of assuming. And you know what that does.

DaWolf 01-16-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPassesALot (Post 9324974)
Some are bitter. I am not. I'm giving you the FACTS. Reid is a freakin' bonehead at times and you will be sitting on your couch wondering WTF just happened??! at least 3 times a game. But I understand he's new and shiny to you so there's a honeymoon period. It seems like all you wanna do is bash chip kelly when you, nor I know what he will become. I have 14 years of Andy as my head coach, that's what I have.

Granted, he was the winningest coach in Eagles history, I won't deny him of what he did here. Keep us competitive for a large portion of the time, but wasn't able to get us over the hump, even with our best team under him in 2004. That was HIS ineptitude in the Super bowl. oh, and the cheating pats.

There's essentially no coach in the league, Belichick included, who you don't sit back at times and say "WTF were you doing?" If you have superior players, more often than not you will be taken off the hook. We dealt with 10 years of WTF with Marty. Todd Haley's entire tenure was a giant WTF. So I'm sure we'll have that with Reid as well, as the Eagles will with Kelly.

At the end of the day, it will come down to what kind of players these guys acquire and who their QB is. The Eagles were ready for a change and so were the Chiefs...

ChiefPassesALot 01-16-2013 02:01 PM

Yeah I guess, andy's history is a step up from your history LOL

FloridaMan88 01-16-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPassesALot (Post 9324974)
Some are bitter. I am not. I'm giving you the FACTS. Reid is a freakin' bonehead at times and you will be sitting on your couch wondering WTF just happened??! at least 3 times a game. But I understand he's new and shiny to you so there's a honeymoon period. It seems like all you wanna do is bash chip kelly when you, nor I know what he will become. I have 14 years of Andy as my head coach, that's what I have.

Granted, he was the winningest coach in Eagles history, I won't deny him of what he did here. Keep us competitive for a large portion of the time, but wasn't able to get us over the hump, even with our best team under him in 2004. That was HIS ineptitude in the Super bowl. oh, and the cheating pats.

You are projecting Andy Reid's success in KC based on his past with Philadelphia... even though the situation is already different with a GM (one of the top personnel guys in the league, in John Dorsey) who has the final say on personnel matters.

Yet you don't want to look at the past to project Chip Kelly's potential success in the NFL... the past that shows no college coach without prior NFL experience having success in the NFL the past 30+ years besides Jimmy Johnson.

It is revealing how you selectively choose which parts of the past to look at in terms of future projections for success.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPassesALot (Post 9325004)
You do a LOT of assuming. And you know what that does.

You are doing the same thing with Andy Reid's potential success in KC.

gooch 01-16-2013 02:07 PM

Kelly is a ****ing douche bag...

Coogs 01-16-2013 02:08 PM

Chip Kelly puts the Eagles in the hunt for a QB like Geno Smith...

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/16/chip-ke...?sct=hp_t11_a4

Who knew? :shrug:


Us? We have to take a LT. :sulk:


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