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htismaqe 02-20-2013 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9418346)
Rush Limbaugh? lol

:D

Hammock Parties 02-20-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9418288)
There's also this little thought:

People keep saying Andy Reid drafted Foles and that's the connection.

According to what some of the Eagles' fans posted here, Andy DIDN'T draft Foles. In fact, he didn't draft ANYBODY the last couple of years.

That's why Reid is in KC and Howie Roseman is still in Philly. Roseman wrested control of personnel from Reid a couple of years ago with the backing of Jeff Lurie and Lurie has been tickled pink with the last couple of drafts.

There's EVERY reason to believe that Roseman was the reason they drafted Foles. It's entirely possible Reid doesn't like him at all.

Yeah...we've only heard from the Chiefs about not picking a QB #1.

And somehow that's kind of grown to also mean they're trading for Foles, just because of media speculation.

Unless I missed something there's been nothing about the Chiefs wanting Foles.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9418389)
Unless I missed something there's been nothing about the Chiefs wanting Foles.

You haven't missed anything.

In fact, you haven't missed anything on the Alex Smith front either. Outside of Trent Dilfer's "my friend Alex Smith would be a good fit in KC because Andy Reid likes him" crap, there isn't an OUNCE of substance to those rumors.

Frankie 02-20-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9417781)
That's just the thing. Foles is as much an unknown as any of the QBs in this draft.

To us, my man. Not to Reid.

Frankie 02-20-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9417883)
Foles is unknown to you, not the head coach.

:D

I was only 11 hours late.

Frankie 02-20-2013 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie (Post 9417972)
Its about compromise, not previous knowledge. Im sick of compromising. All this franchise DOES is compromise. It's time to stop taking it in the ass, and start GIVING IT. No more ****ing excuses.
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I want the next Len Dawson, once and for all. I am also tired of compromising. But taking a QB at 1 who may be a late 1st rounder in value is a compromise too. Is Geno worthy of the top pick. I'm hoping the combine and the interviews will bring that into focus.

BigCatDaddy 02-20-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9418463)
:D

I was only 11 hours late.

Care to rethink this, Dane?

Frankie 02-20-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 9418216)
Except that it's not.
Foles is a 24 year old kid, who started and played well in college, who has a good arm and played pretty well on a shit team with little help as a rookie.

Cassel never played a down of college football, has a weak arm and took what had been an 18-1 team the previous season to a 10-6 record (with the scheduling gods playing the Pats against what was a horrible NFC West).

You cannot compare him to Cassel, they're nothing alike in any way, shape, form, experience level, background, physical attribute, or potential. They are literally two white guys who play QB and the similarity ends there.

The situation would be more like when GB traded a #2 for Brett Favre back in like '91 or '92 or whatever. If Reid thinks Foles is better than any of the possible draftees I'm good with it. I'd still like a high-ish pick to hedge the bet, though, and I like Nassib as a guy you could groom and hedge the bet.

I don't think Reid just hands anyone anything, it doesn't seem to be his MO. I would expect that Foles would start over any second round QB and Stanzi just based on past performance, but I don't think Reid would stick with him if there's a better player on the bench like ***** did.

This, all day. good post.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9418460)
To us, my man. Not to Reid.

For all we know, Reid thinks he's shit.

DaneMcCloud 02-20-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9418511)
For all we know, Reid thinks he's shit.

This is also true.

At this point in time, EVERYTHING, other than what Dorsey has specifically said, is pure speculation.

Frankie 02-20-2013 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9418296)
My problem with Alex Smith is this...
His coach (who happens to be pretty good), decided he wasn't good enough, after a season and a half of decent play, and, for all intents and purposes, benched him.

Another way to look at it is:

Harbaugh inherited a good Acura which he tuned up and drove. But before he could be sure of the Acura's performance he bought himself a Cadillac and kept it in the garage. When the Acura had an accident he fired up the Cadi and drove it. Having experienced driving the Cadi he now won't drive the Acura. The Acura is still a high end Honda, but not quite a Cadillac. That's all. I would buy an underpriced Acura in a scenario like that in a heartbeat.

htismaqe 02-20-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9418544)
Another way to look at it is:

Harbaugh inherited a good Acura which he tuned up and drove. But before he could be sure of the Acura's performance he bought himself a Cadillac and kept it in the garage. When the Acura had an accident he fired up the Cadi and drove it. Having experienced driving the Cadi he now won't drive the Acura. The Acura is still a high end Honda, but not quite a Cadillac. That's all. I would buy an underpriced Acura in a scenario like that in a heartbeat.

Why would you buy an underpriced Honda when you know that, in order to get to your desired destination, you NEED the Cadillac?

BigCatDaddy 02-20-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 9418544)
Another way to look at it is:

Harbaugh inherited a good Acura which he tuned up and drove. But before he could be sure of the Acura's performance he bought himself a Cadillac and kept it in the garage. When the Acura had an accident he fired up the Cadi and drove it. Having experienced driving the Cadi he now won't drive the Acura. The Acura is still a high end Honda, but not quite a Cadillac. That's all. I would buy an underpriced Acura in a scenario like that in a heartbeat.

I'd rather buy a lottery ticket where I have 3 possible outcomes of getting the Caddy, getting the Acura, or getting a Volvo than settling for a sure thing Acura.

DJ's left nut 02-20-2013 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9418271)
Weve all been wrong in the past its whatever. The fact you think Harvin was an actual MVP candidate is a head scratcher to me unless you are talking about a list of 50.

He was, actually. This was just the first thing I found at the 1/4 pole:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...d-the-mvp-race

and another:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...in-on-the-rise

Right before he was injured, he was on a bunch of short-lists for the MVP. He had just had a run of weeks where he just kept making huge plays to swing the lead and he was getting a lot of MVP talk. AP hadn't had his massive streak yet (which started after Harvin went down) and the Broncos were just building momentum.

You forget that was at about week 8; a lot of things changed over the last 1/2 of the season. But he's absolutely right - Harvin was getting plenty of discussion for the first half MVP. He wasn't the top candidate, but he we certainly a top 10 guy.

DJ's left nut 02-20-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9418559)
Why would you buy an underpriced Honda when you know that, in order to get to your desired destination, you NEED the Cadillac?

Because you don't.

Joe Flacco isn't a Cadillac.


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