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'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10286337)
7.6 to go to NFL. 13 million to go to another college program.

That's still a lot of jack.

At this point, I have no idea who to promote for coaching gigs. All of the hyped hires are almost universally a product of great players and suck without them.

O.city 12-16-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10286339)
They should have fired him the instant he came to Mayhew with the suggestion to hire Gunther Cunningham as DC.

What more could you do to prove your incompetence?

That's the NFL in a nutshell, though. Schwartz and Gunther were butt buddies from their days in Tennessee, and given Fisher's inability to ever have a team not stocked with felons committing 130 penalties a year, it's not surprising that this Detroit team commits just as many dumbass mistakes.

Yeah, nepotistic football league.

O.city 12-16-2013 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10286345)
That's still a lot of jack.

At this point, I have no idea who to promote for coaching gigs. All of the hyped hires are almost universally a product of great players and suck without them.

He's never leave, but I think David shaw would be a great nfl head coach.

DJ's left nut 12-16-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10286314)
I don't think so. He's a WCO evangelical w/o the flexibility that someone like Reed has always had regarding a QB's talents. That would be a complete waste of Stafford's talents.

I think you want a guy who will still run a Coryell offense, but with coaches that actually pay attention to fundamentals. Detroit has terrible fundamentals and discipline.

Bill O'Brien would be a perfect hire, IMO.

He favors more of a pro-set, play action heavy downfield passing attack. Off the board, maybe take a look at David Shaw.

Stafford's an old-school, Drew Bledsoe type of immobile, rocket armed pocket passer. I'm not sure he has the accuracy/timing/intelligence for a Coryell offense. But if you set him up in a system that relies on basic pro-sets and power running that opens passing lanes downfield, he could be damn dangerous.

I just don't think he's a smart enough QB for Ehardt Perkins, Coryell, WCO or any of the more complicated offensive schemes.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2013 11:31 PM

There is no ****ing way I'd ever leave a top 20 college program for an NFL job.

College gigs pay just as well now, you aren't forced by institutional pressures to work 110 hours a week (even though they are almost certainly filled with non-productive hours), and although you have to recruit, much of that can still be delegated. The worst part would be kissing booster ass. Oh, how that would ****ing suck. Still, better than spending 15 hours a day watching film to try and get an advantage that everyone has already pored over 20 times.

Sorter 12-16-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10286318)
I think Bill O'Brien would be the perfect hire.

Gruden's offense isn't a great fit for his power arm.

I concur.

The Franchise 12-16-2013 11:32 PM

I don't see Shaw leaving Stanford.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2013 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10286362)
Bill O'Brien would be a perfect hire, IMO.

He favors more of a pro-set, play action heavy downfield passing attack. Off the board, maybe take a look at David Shaw.

Stafford's an old-school, Drew Bledsoe type of immobile, rocket armed pocket passer. I'm not sure he has the accuracy/timing/intelligence for a Coryell offense. But if you set him up in a system that relies on basic pro-sets and power running that opens passing lanes downfield, he could be damn dangerous.

I just don't think he's a smart enough QB for Ehardt Perkins, Coryell, WCO or any of the more complicated offensive schemes.

The Lions run a predominantly Coryell system now, and have since they hired Linehan.

DJ's left nut 12-16-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10286318)
I think Bill O'Brien would be the perfect hire.

Gruden's offense isn't a great fit for his power arm.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10286350)
He's never leave, but I think David shaw would be a great nfl head coach.

Well shit, I Q'd the hell out of those suggestions.

Well played, gents...

DJ's left nut 12-16-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10286378)
The Lions run a predominantly Coryell system now, and have since they hired Linehan.

So...case closed, then?

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2013 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10286386)
So...case closed, then?

Not when you have a defensive quality control assistant teaching the QB. Stafford may come off as a dipshit because of his build and voice, but he's actually a sharp guy. He did really well on his board work, ran a pro set for three years in high school, and scored a 38 on the Wonderlic.

O.city 12-16-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10286370)
There is no ****ing way I'd ever leave a top 20 college program for an NFL job.

College gigs pay just as well now, you aren't forced by institutional pressures to work 110 hours a week (even though they are almost certainly filled with non-productive hours), and although you have to recruit, much of that can still be delegated. The worst part would be kissing booster ass. Oh, how that would ****ing suck. Still, better than spending 15 hours a day watching film to try and get an advantage that everyone has already pored over 20 times.

This is why It wouldn't surprise me at all to see an nfl guy bolt to Texas.

DJ's left nut 12-16-2013 11:39 PM

He comes off as a dipshit because he plays like one.

I know it's conventional to blame coaching at this point, but c'mon - this isn't a rookie. The guy's been in the league for a pretty long time now. I don't expect him to suddenly flip a switch and become smart with the football.

O.city 12-16-2013 11:39 PM

Maybe go out of the box and take a look at jay gruden

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-16-2013 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10286405)
He comes off as a dipshit because he plays like one.

I know it's conventional to blame coaching at this point, but c'mon - this isn't a rookie. The guy's been in the league for a pretty long time now. I don't expect him to suddenly flip a switch and become smart with the football.

I haven't solely blamed coaching. In fact, I said some posts back that he's going to have to make a decision about what he wants his career to be. It's not an either/or situation, and he could certainly help himself more, but he isn't being helped whatsoever.


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