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KC_Connection 02-09-2014 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10423077)
Lol that's one of the most obscure straw men I can remember on this forum.

What's obscure about it and why is it a straw man? Do you believe true objectivity actually exists? Because everyone has biases based on their experiences/perspectives. I can actually admit to mine in this instance (I'm a huge fan of Smart and hate this kind of fan culture). Can you?

KC native 02-09-2014 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10423083)
What are you talking about? The video camera was facing the court, it was hit by Smart when he went off the floor and turned all the way around. Then once Smart went into the stands the photographer starts to turn it around but leaves it still more pointing towards the incident, than towards the court. Almost sideways, but when you hear "piece of shit" the camera is turned around.

Watch it again. It gets slightly turned to the left not all the way around. Definitively saying that it did pick up what the Sand Aggie fan said is ridiculous.

Edit: So I watched it again, and it does get spun around but immediately picked back up. Even then the camera is pointing away from the guy when the piece of crap comment comes in. That video doesn't prove anything

a pp roach 02-09-2014 06:26 PM

guy shouldn't have been talking shit, lucky he didn't get his ass knocked out

loved it

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-09-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10423088)
What's obscure about it and why is it a straw man? Do you believe true objectivity actually exists? Because everyone has biases based on their experiences/perspectives. I can actually admit to mine in this instance (I'm a huge fan of Smart and hate this kind of fan culture). Can you?

It's like talking to a walrus. You just keep getting the same gurgling sound back.

KC_Connection 02-09-2014 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10423097)
It's like talking to a walrus. You just keep getting the same gurgling sound back.

Anyway, thanks for chiming in just to take a shot at me that made no sense. Great dialogue we got going. Maybe next time you'll actually form an opinion.

Ceej 02-09-2014 06:35 PM

This is going to be a long debate until there's some super, 100% hard evidence.

Let's try not to get too carried away.

greatgooglymoogly 02-09-2014 06:41 PM

I guess we're about to find out how much OK State's power brokers care about hoops. Ford should be coaching for his job right now.

BigRock 02-09-2014 06:46 PM

If it had happened with 8 minutes to go before halftime, I wouldn't have cared if Smart punched him in the nuts. But he cost his team a game because he let some middle aged jocksniffer get to him? Piss off.

Reerun_KC 02-09-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10423127)
I guess we're about to find out how much OK State's power brokers care about hoops. Ford should be coaching for his job right now.

Ford shouldn't have a job... Smart has ran that team all season anyway... You can tell from the players reactions they are sick of Smart.

KC_Connection 02-09-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 10423132)
If it had happened with 8 minutes to go before halftime, I wouldn't have cared if Smart punched him in the nuts. But he cost his team a game because he let some middle aged jocksniffer get to him? Piss off.

Smart was the only reason his team was in the game. Also, the game would have been over if he didn't rush back to commit the foul on the open layup.

It's really the next 3 games that his shove is probably going to cost them that I'm sure he feels bad about.

KC_Connection 02-09-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10423135)
You can tell from the players reactions they are sick of Smart.

And this would be called projecting your own feelings onto others.

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-09-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10423104)
Anyway, thanks for chiming in just to take a shot at me that made no sense. Great dialogue we got going. Maybe next time you'll actually form an opinion.

It's not a viable dialogue when one is closing his eyes and shouting at the top of his lungs to drown out everyone else. It's pointless.

greatgooglymoogly 02-09-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 10423135)
Ford shouldn't have a job... Smart has ran that team all season anyway... You can tell from the players reactions they are sick of Smart.

I have many Cowboy friends and family, and they were all leery of Ford before this season. They were willing to forgive him if they made the Sweet 16 at an absolute minimum (and the most boisterous among them demanded a Final 4 appearance). I don't know about that, but their roster is certainly talented enough to win two tournament games, and they may not even get there now. Flare-ups like this can be traced back to the coach and his ineffectiveness.

Reerun_KC 02-09-2014 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10423137)
And this would be called projecting your own feelings onto others.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10423124)
I'd probably have given him one or two. He shoved an asshole fan that insulted him. You can't allow that, but it's not like the guy didn't have it coming.

Yes you want to soap and rinse Smarts dick of all wrong doing, while all blame goes on the fan...

How about being accountable for your actions?

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-09-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10423127)
I guess we're about to find out how much OK State's power brokers care about hoops. Ford should be coaching for his job right now.

My uncle is a booster for OSU, and while he's not actively campaigning for Ford to be fired... there are some already carrying that torch.


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