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beach tribe 03-25-2014 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515426)
It's not ignoring that fact. It's not buying the logic or idea that it makes sense to build short-term in year 1 of a regime and then build long-term from that point forward.

I think getting the QB you truly want moving forward trumps all.
Building confidence within the organization that you can win with that QB cannot be overlooked either.
Try to imagine the questions that would exist had last season been a complete abortion.
There would be no trust in Smith, or Reid, or Dorsey.
As it stands now, MOST of us feel like we have a QB that we can win in the post-season with, and that is the most important thing in today's NFL.
They ****ed up on a few things, but it actually looks like they succeeded in answering the most important question that any of us could have.

duncan_idaho 03-25-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 10515451)
I think getting the QB you truly want moving forward trumps all.
Building confidence within the organization that you can win with that QB cannot be overlooked either.
Try to imagine the questions that would exist had last season been a complete abortion.
There would be no trust in Smith, or Reid, or Dorsey.
As it stands now, MOST of us feel like we have a QB that we can win in the post-season with, and that is the most important thing in today's NFL.
They ****ed up on a few things, but it actually looks like they succeeded in answering the most important question that any of us could have.

IF Alex Smith is the quarterback he was over most of the second half of the season and in the playoff game, you've got a 3-4 year window with him.

His age 30 season seems like a strange year to focus on building for the future... especially considering that most of the rest of the core players are also entering the downside of their careers.

kcchiefsus 03-25-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515459)
IF Alex Smith is the quarterback he was over most of the second half of the season and in the playoff game, you've got a 3-4 year window with him.

His age 30 season seems like a strange year to focus on building for the future... especially considering that most of the rest of the core players are also entering the downside of their careers.

Just have to hope the brain trust has it in them to have a replacement ready to take over the reigns, like with Rodgers taking over for Favre or Kapernick taking over for Smith. If not then I guess it will be more of the same old for the Chiefs. Hopefully this staff is different than the rest.

Rausch 03-25-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 10515417)
What they could have gotten was a third, which we will get anyway as a comp pick

COULD get as a comp pick...

kcchiefsus 03-25-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10515465)
COULD get as a comp pick...

With the contract he got, it's WILL get a comp pick.

Rausch 03-25-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515459)
IF Alex Smith is the quarterback he was over most of the second half of the season and in the playoff game, you've got a 3-4 year window with him.

His age 30 season seems like a strange year to focus on building for the future... especially considering that most of the rest of the core players are also entering the downside of their careers.

With our core of talent and Smith at QB they better be making moves to win now...

duncan_idaho 03-25-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10515462)
Just have to hope the brain trust has it in them to have a replacement ready to take over the reigns, like with Rodgers taking over for Favre or Kapernick taking over for Smith. If not then I guess it will be more of the same old for the Chiefs. Hopefully this staff is different than the rest.

I am at least 5 years past being able to rely on "hope" when it comes to the Chiefs and front office decisions.

The Franchise 03-25-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10515450)
Yup I believe he isn't the answer.

Jets are already shaky on him. Reason he fell so far

So it's ok for you to call Geno a bust but everyone else calling Fisher a bust needs to wait? Excuse me while I never value your opinions again.

jd1020 03-25-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10515472)
So it's ok for you to call Geno a bust but everyone else calling Fisher a bust needs to wait? Excuse me while I never value your opinions again.

Any rookie that doesnt have an arrowhead on their helmet and struggles is a bust.

However, if they do have that arrowhead on their helmet they have all the talent in the world and just need time.

kcchiefsus 03-25-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515469)
I am at least 5 years past being able to rely on "hope" when it comes to the Chiefs and front office decisions.

Well we got nothing else to rely on, unless we want to rely on Save Our Chiefs to fly banners over the NFL offices and convince them to give us a Lombardi Trophy out of sympathy for the fans.

Otherwise, hope is all we got.

htismaqe 03-25-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10515472)
So it's ok for you to call Geno a bust but everyone else calling Fisher a bust needs to wait? Excuse me while I never value your opinions again.

Yeah, he's already admitted to being a hypocrite.

Raiderhater 03-25-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10515025)
Or he may be all screwed up and have to start over...

This is my concern.

Bowser 03-25-2014 11:24 AM

Question for all those championing Fisher moving to left tackle -

What exactly did you see out of him last year that makes you excited to see him potentially line up at left tackle this season? Because I saw a guy that would occasionally make good plays, but was routinely overmatched and injured for a majority of the season, and that was on the right side playing some horrid defenses.

Convince me this move isn't a glaring view of the ineptitude of the front office in dealing with Albert. Make me excited for this move, please.

temper11 03-25-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10515426)
It's not ignoring that fact. It's not buying the logic or idea that it makes sense to build short-term in year 1 of a regime and then build long-term from that point forward.

last year's FA was a stop the bleeding approach... and it worked. Probably better than they even expected. Now that they have a core, they are going to build through the draft. You, and others might not agree with it, but it seems perfectly reasonable to me.

They wanted to get butts back in the seats and they did that, now they are trying to keep butts in the seats for a good long time... not just the next year or two.

htismaqe 03-25-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 10515477)
Well we got nothing else to rely on, unless we want to rely on Save Our Chiefs to fly banners over the NFL offices and convince them to give us a Lombardi Trophy out of sympathy for the fans.

Otherwise, hope is all we got.

Hope in one hand, shit in the other...


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