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DeezNutz 04-05-2014 09:21 PM
If you don't like the leadership this much, root for another team...

Wait for it...wait for it...

O.city 04-05-2014 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10542502)
Indeed. Executives are never just ****ing flat out, fall on their faces wrong. Shit, I've been following the Chiefs for years, so I know this is the truth.

No one knows Jackson/Cassel/Hill better than Reid/Pioli/Marty...

Nothing was "going on" except the fact that Hunt wouldn't write a ****ing check to work around the cap. If not this, then "what was going on" is that the leaders of this team are ****ing stupid.
They've overpaid for just about any one else they wanted last year (bowe, colquit, Daniel, devito).

Why would they have a problem paying Jackson if Reid really wanted him?

htismaqe 04-05-2014 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10542234)
No that is just one example of how your opinion works.
At least I have an opinion instead of following people around like a pathetic ****ing loser. Lemming.

htismaqe 04-05-2014 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10542521)
They've overpaid for just about any one else they wanted last year (bowe, colquit, Daniel, devito).

Why would they have a problem paying Jackson if Reid really wanted him?
Because they've reversed course. They got what they wanted out of last year.

chiefzilla1501 04-05-2014 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10542502)
Indeed. Executives are never just ****ing flat out, fall on their faces wrong. Shit, I've been following the Chiefs for years, so I know this is the truth.

No one knows Jackson/Cassel/Hill better than Reid/Pioli/Marty...

Nothing was "going on" except the fact that Hunt wouldn't write a ****ing check to work around the cap. If not this, then "what was going on" is that the leaders of this team are ****ing stupid.
Cmon man, you're better than that. This has nothing to do with hunt being cheap. This is about a philosophy of cap management. Disagree with that. But I know you know this has nothing to do with not wanting to open up a checkbook.

O.city 04-05-2014 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10542559)
Because they've reversed course. They got what they wanted out of last year.
Maybe so.

Maybe they feel they don't need any big free agents, that the guys they've got are what they need.

DeezNutz 04-05-2014 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10542567)
Cmon man, you're better than that. This has nothing to do with hunt being cheap. This is about a philosophy of cap management. Disagree with that. But I know you know this has nothing to do with not wanting to open up a checkbook.
If Smith isn't on the roster for 2 second-rounders, I might agree. And there's no question that Hunt has spent a lot of money over the last couple of years.

But I cannot reconcile the contradiction from what happened last year and what the team isn't doing this year.

O.city 04-05-2014 09:38 PM
I'm not so sure they viewed the Alex smith acquire meant as a win now move.

DeezNutz 04-05-2014 09:40 PM
He was 29 last year, so you're claiming he was a stop gap? For 2 second-rounders?

If that's the case, since he's not a developmental guy, you think the FO is even dumber than I do.

chiefzilla1501 04-05-2014 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10542576)
If Smith isn't on the roster for 2 second-rounders, I might agree. And there's no question that Hunt has spent a lot of money over the last couple of years.

But I cannot reconcile the contradiction from what happened last year and what the team isn't doing this year.
That's fine. But it has nothing to do with spending money. They are going to be up against the cap this year and I bet next year too. So this has nothing to do with not wanting to spend money. It is a conversation about how they are choosing to manage their cap.

DeezNutz 04-05-2014 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10542588)
That's fine. But it has nothing to do with spending money. They are going to be up against the cap this year and I bet next year too. So this has nothing to do with not wanting to spend money. It is a conversation about how they are choosing to manage their cap.
We're playing semantics now. Because the cap is almost always manageable if the owner is willing to cut checks up front.

O.city 04-05-2014 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10542587)
He was 29 last year, so you're claiming he was a stop gap? For 2 second-rounders?

If that's the case, since he's not a developmental guy, you think the FO is even dumber than I do.
Me?


I don't think he's a stop gap, I think they view him as a 5 year plus player.

htismaqe 04-05-2014 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10542582)
I'm not so sure they viewed the Alex smith acquire meant as a win now move.
It's pretty obvious they viewed Alex Smith as having their cake and eating it too. Established enough to keep the butts in the seats while giving them 4-5 years to build around him.

Just like Pioli felt about Matt Cassel.

And Carl felt about Elvis Grbac.

O.city 04-05-2014 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10542602)
It's pretty obvious they viewed Alex Smith as having their cake and eating it too. Established enough to keep the butts in the seats while giving them 4-5 years to build around him.

Just like Pioli felt about Matt Cassel.

And Carl felt about Elvis Grbac.
One of these isn't like the others though.

Hammock Parties 04-05-2014 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10542602)
It's pretty obvious they viewed Alex Smith as having their cake and eating it too. Established enough to keep the butts in the seats while giving them 4-5 years to build around him.

Just like Pioli felt about Matt Cassel.

And Carl felt about Elvis Grbac.
No absolutely not. Unpossible. It cannot be similar to either of those occurrences because you see THESE GUYS know what they are doing. That's why appeals are being made to their authority. THEY ARE DIFFERENT, DON'T YOU SEE?!


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