ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=29)
-   -   OT Rankings (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=337318)

htismaqe 04-05-2021 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15616813)
It would be a massive risk for this team to covert a RT rookie into a LT and start him straight away...a very big risk. Jenkins is good but is he really a can't miss talent? I'm not sure tbh.

As far as tackles go, I'm not sure there's ANY "can't miss" talent in this draft. Even Sewell has question marks after he went through his pro day. Slater is probably the most likely success of the bunch and many think he'll end up inside.

Chris Meck 04-05-2021 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 15616813)
It would be a massive risk for this team to covert a RT rookie into a LT and start him straight away...a very big risk. Jenkins is good but is he really a can't miss talent? I'm not sure tbh.

It's all risks.

Fisher hasn't played 16 games plus the postseason in a few years either, and chances he's near 100% in September are no sure bet. Schwartz is no guarantee to not have continuing problems; back problems with the big boys is usually not something that gets better.

Okung hasn't played a full season in awhile.

Williams played a full season last year, but hadn't in awhile.

I mean all of the options carried risks.

It might be why they signed veteran OG's and a C. IF you were going to roll with essentially rookies at OT, you'd want crusty vets next to them.

I'm not saying I think I'm for that, I'm just saying IF they were going to, then they've built the interior the right way to help.

The Franchise 04-05-2021 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15616794)
not a NEED in round one, but The Chiefs have shown they're willing to spend resources on RT. Schwartz was paid pretty well. I think in this offense in particular it's pretty important.

If Jenkins is there at #31, I wouldn't balk at grabbing him, and I'd expect they move one or the other of him or Niang to LT. Niang seems more nimble to me, but that's just going off of memory.

And just my fixation on Niang looking like Roaf in his build and movements.

but whatever they do I'm sure there's a plan that will be sufficient at least.

Oh I’m fine with it if that’s what they want to do. I mean for all we know they could want Walker Little. Let him get back into things with Niang at LT and Remmers at RT to start the season and then ease Little into either spot.

Chief Northman 04-06-2021 11:10 PM

The Draft Network - published today...

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...-rankings-reid

htismaqe 04-07-2021 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15616831)
As far as tackles go, I'm not sure there's ANY "can't miss" talent in this draft. Even Sewell has question marks after he went through his pro day. Slater is probably the most likely success of the bunch and many think he'll end up inside.

Here is yet another analyst mirroring what I've been saying about this draft. THIS is why there's NO WAY I'm trading up for a LT.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-dr...s-year-s-class

Quote:

2) Offensive tackle
Last year featured some outstanding first-round talent, and while this year presents a similar offering, there are definitely more holes to poke in this year's potential first-rounders than there were in last year's group. Rashawn Slater feels like a safe player but may get kicked inside eventually. Penei Sewell boasts lots of upside but needs to prove he has improved his play strength and consistency after opting out of the 2020 season. While the top end falls below last year's group, this class is actually much deeper in Rounds 2 through 4, and it should produce a fair number of future starters.

Dull Tools 04-07-2021 07:29 AM

Walker Little is the player I am interested in. Where do you all think he will be picked? By all accounts he has the highest upside of all the tackles in the draft but hasn't played since 2018.

kcbubb 04-07-2021 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15616609)

I mean, if they're going to move a guy, why not move the guy that's spent the last year training per the Chiefs instruction?

Is it just me or does he not look out of shape here, see video below? I’m not sure he’s been “training per Chiefs instructions” if he’s winded from getting in his sets... his lower body looks really skinny and he looks fat and soft in the upper body. This video screams red flags to me on conditioning.

https://youtu.be/herlYknJJ4U

kcbubb 04-07-2021 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15617892)
Here is yet another analyst mirroring what I've been saying about this draft. THIS is why there's NO WAY I'm trading up for a LT.

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-dr...s-year-s-class

I agree with this. No way little or brown goes in the first. Our desperation has caused cp to elevate LTs.

staylor26 04-07-2021 04:21 PM

Is it just me or does it seem like everybody went from “Cosmi isn’t making it to 31” to forgetting about him all together?

kcbubb 04-07-2021 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 15617834)
The Draft Network - published today...

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...-rankings-reid

He only ranks 4 LTs as first round talents.

Tribal Warfare 04-07-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15618838)
Is it just me or does it seem like everybody went from “Cosmi isn’t making it to 31” to forgetting about him all together?

With info from various media outlets it has been revealed that the 33.5 inch and above arm length metric is detrimental to how they evaluate immediate OT starters out of the draft.


The 33.5 inch+ arm length issue is like the 6'2 height marker for QBs

staylor26 04-07-2021 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 15618854)
With info from various media outlets it has been revealed that the 33.5 inch and above arm length metric is detrimental to how they evaluate immediate OT starters out of the draft.


The 33.5 inch+ arm length issue is like the 6'2 height marker for QBs

I think they’d be more likely to sacrifice less than half an inch for a guy that’s 6’7” and extremely athletic.

kcbubb 04-07-2021 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15618865)
I think they’d be more likely to sacrifice less than half an inch for a guy that’s 6’7” and extremely athletic.

height is only important in that it normally comes with long arms. Being tall with short arms doesn’t help.

Chris Meck 04-07-2021 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15618828)
Is it just me or does he not look out of shape here, see video below? I’m not sure he’s been “training per Chiefs instructions” if he’s winded from getting in his sets... his lower body looks really skinny and he looks fat and soft in the upper body. This video screams red flags to me on conditioning.

https://youtu.be/herlYknJJ4U

do you just exist to bitch about everything?

staylor26 04-07-2021 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 15618883)
height is only important in that it normally comes with long arms. Being tall with short arms doesn’t help.

My point was more about his size/frame in general along with his rare athleticism.

His arms are literally just under the 33.5 inch mark. It’s not that serious. If the only think keeping you from drafting him is less than half and inch, you’re overthinking it.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:52 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.