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Kiimo 04-01-2022 03:25 PM

Hey you could be right. Maybe he is better than his significantly thorough testing says. But do you think that makes him better than some of the other receivers? Why gamble when there are so many good choices? Guys that don't have piss poor agility measurements.

The Franchise 04-01-2022 03:26 PM

Save us, Laviska. You're our only hope.

staylor26 04-01-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16228040)
Hey you could be right. Maybe he is better than his significantly thorough testing says. But do you think that makes him better than some of the other receivers? Why gamble when there are so many good choices? Guys that don't have piss poor agility measurements.

Because he’s firmly in the top 5 WRs and tier 1 of this class, and we aren’t likely to have any of them to choose from, more or less 2+.

Rausch 04-01-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16228026)
The good news is I trust Veach to pick the right guy and I'm sure even if he doesn't pick the best one he'll at least be good.


I wish Hardman was DK but also Hardman is pretty dang good and getting better.

Hardman could have been DK.

That's the thing about choices...

Kiimo 04-01-2022 03:30 PM

Well if Treylon Burks succeeds, it will be because he plays better than he tests. That has certainly happened before.


But if he doesn't people will say how did we not see this coming with those tests. That has also happened.

Kiimo 04-01-2022 03:33 PM

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staylor26 04-01-2022 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16228046)
Well if Treylon Burks succeeds, it will be because he plays better than he tests. That has certainly happened before.


But if he doesn't people will say how did we not see this coming with those tests. That has also happened.

If he fails, it won’t be because of a lack of athleticism.

It will be because he’s a bit raw and doesn’t develop like you’d hope.

In no way am I saying he’s a sure thing, but if he’s sitting there at 29/30, he would be a great pick.

It’s pretty easy to see he has an A.J. Brown ceiling.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-01-2022 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 16228043)
Hardman could have been DK.

That's the thing about choices...

Wasn't between the two... Hardman was a replacement for Hill who most thought was maybe done for the year, if not ever at the time....

htismaqe 04-01-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16228040)
Hey you could be right. Maybe he is better than his significantly thorough testing says. But do you think that makes him better than some of the other receivers? Why gamble when there are so many good choices? Guys that don't have piss poor agility measurements.

Some of these guys actually DO have piss poor agility measurements. Still others are JUST agility measurements without the college production to back them up.

There isn't a Jamar Chase in this draft. All of them have question marks.

BWillie 04-01-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16227986)
I was asked why, I showed my work. Your opinion on it is of no consequence to me

Love it. People freak out about an opinion. Keep on keeping on.

staylor26 04-01-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16228155)
Love it. People freak out about an opinion. Keep on keeping on.

How exactly did I “freak out”?

Bowser 04-01-2022 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16228050)
Last post on this topic: it's hard for me not to love this



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Daaamm, Daaahhniel

Titty Meat 04-01-2022 09:52 PM

RAS is gonna be the new PFF on here

staylor26 04-01-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16228365)
RAS is gonna be the new PFF on here

I actually find it very useful.

But it’s not the be-all end-all either.

DJ's left nut 04-01-2022 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16228065)
Some of these guys actually DO have piss poor agility measurements. Still others are JUST agility measurements without the college production to back them up.

There isn't a Jamar Chase in this draft. All of them have question marks.

There isn't a Jamar Chase, no.

There aren't Jamar Chase's in many drafts.

But man, I think Garrett Wilson could be REALLY good.

For many/most it seems like there isn't a clear #1. Wilson is mostly the consensus guy, but it's faint praise. He's considered a little better than the rest.

I'm not sure I see it that way. I think he might be a LOT better than the rest. Put him in last season's draft and I'd take him ahead of everyone but Chase. Very good agility, very good speed - EXTREMELY powerful for a guy with his athletic traits.

He could be what people thought Watkins was going to be before he got hurt. Staylor is fond of comparing Burks to AJ Brown but I think I see Wilson as being that guy.

He's the potential All-Pro in this draft, IMO.


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