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duncan_idaho 08-14-2024 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17630515)
I didn't realize that Jody Fortson made the 2022 offense so dynamic, here I thought it was Ronald Jones.

I really was thinking about how unpredictable and versatile that offense was, and how the 13 set was a key part of that. Edited.

PatMahomesIsGod 08-14-2024 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17630761)
Watch him be more productive than both Mayer and Bowers, and the Raiders cry.

Better physical tools than both those slapdicks.

Basileus777 08-21-2024 02:31 PM

He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.

ThrobProng 08-21-2024 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17640742)
He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.

Maybe that's a good sign. Guys who "pop" in camp often end up on the practice squad or playing in a different league. Give me "reliable and physically capable" over camp hype any day of the week.

PatMahomesIsGod 08-21-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17640742)
He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.

He has plenty of highlighted catches.

Kiimo 08-21-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17640742)
He didn't really pop in camp, not sure how ready he really is to do much as a rookie.

DIDN'T HE?



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes to Jared Wiley. All aboard the hype train! 🚂💨💨<a href="https://t.co/1SjED5F9FW">pic.twitter.com/1SjED5F9FW</a><br>🎥<a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EddieHigh</a></p>&mdash; Brad Henson Productions (@BradHensonPro) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradHensonPro/status/1823749856868839877?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="tr" dir="ltr">Oladokun to Wiley <a href="https://t.co/qSDM0nYptT">pic.twitter.com/qSDM0nYptT</a></p>&mdash; EDDIE HIGH (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1819030622171447527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PLAY OF THE DAY‼️<br><br>Jared Wiley makes a one-handed grab over Drue Tranquill 😳 <a href="https://t.co/sjbGLFTLYj">pic.twitter.com/sjbGLFTLYj</a></p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1816139606477160840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 08-21-2024 04:26 PM

He's playing TE with the 1s his rookie year when the team already has Travis Kelce and a pretty established player in Noah Gray.

This is the position that has had two 1000 yard rookies since 1960: Mike Ditka and Kyle Pitts. And I think we all know that Pitts was force fed all of his yards.

He'll probably do as much as most rookie TEs do, particularly among guys who aren't the main TE.

duncan_idaho 08-21-2024 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17640879)
He's playing TE with the 1s his rookie year when the team already has Travis Kelce and a pretty established player in Noah Gray.

This is the position that has had two 1000 yard rookies since 1960: Mike Ditka and Kyle Pitts. And I think we all know that Pitts was force fed all of his yards.

He'll probably do as much as most rookie TEs do, particularly among guys who aren't the main TE.

I think the fact he walked in and began forcing looks in the TE2 role OVER Gray is pretty telling.

They wouldn't be doing that if he wasn't "popping."

He gives them some things Noah Gray can't, namely a big, seam-stretcher who is a vertical threat. KC was clearly trying to add that back to the TE room between Wiley and Irv Smith.

saphojunkie 08-21-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17640780)
Maybe that's a good sign. Guys who "pop" in camp often end up on the practice squad or playing in a different league. Give me "reliable and physically capable" over camp hype any day of the week.

"I prefer not to see success in practice."

Kiimo 08-21-2024 07:58 PM

Well that means Toney is gonna win OPOY

smithandrew051 08-21-2024 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17640898)
I think the fact he walked in and began forcing looks in the TE2 role OVER Gray is pretty telling.

They wouldn't be doing that if he wasn't "popping."

He gives them some things Noah Gray can't, namely a big, seam-stretcher who is a vertical threat. KC was clearly trying to add that back to the TE room between Wiley and Irv Smith.

For better or worse, Andy seems to roll with guys he trusts over guys with upside.

If Wiley is playing over Gray (who is a fine backup and competent NFL player), then it’s safe to be excited.

O.city 08-22-2024 07:14 AM

Rookie TE's don't really happen.

It's ok, just let him learn.

ThrobProng 08-22-2024 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17640931)
"I prefer not to see success in practice."

I prefer an actual good player as opposed to training camp darlings like Bobby Sippio.

duncan_idaho 08-22-2024 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17641443)
Rookie TE's don't really happen.

It's ok, just let him learn.


I think his impact is roughly what Jody Fortson gave them in 2022.

He’ll create some big plays out 13 personnel. He’ll let them run 12 personnel without Kelce.

But we’re taking more about situational snaps and splash plays this year.


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DJ's left nut 08-22-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17641467)
I think his impact is roughly what Jody Fortson gave them in 2022.

He’ll create some big plays out 13 personnel. He’ll let them run 12 personnel without Kelce.

But we’re taking more about situational snaps and splash plays this year.


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I think it's also reasonable to assume we won't have Kelce for 2-3 games this season.

And I think it's possible that Wiley goes from 3rd to 1st on the depth chart if that happens. Not likely, but if you want bulk snaps at a move TE position, I'm thinking you may be better served to move Wiley into that spot with Gray staying at 2.

If Kelce stays healthy I'm thinking you may see 250 yards and a couple scores on 15-20 catches. Nothing much, but a couple little flashes here and there. But if Kelce goes down, there's a chance you see him go out there for like 6 catches for 85 yards and a tuddy in a game.

I really think Reid will turn this kid into a 1,000 yard receiver someday.


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