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KChiefer 02-12-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9398099)
I think he dug a hole under the house and is wearing scuba gear to survive waiting for everyone to leave so he can walk away.

I heard he was an Area 51 project gone rogue and can phase through solid matter.

Shogun 02-12-2013 08:34 PM

Anonymous calls ins report that the house did have escape route in basement

via police scanner

just an anonymous tip. could be bs

CrazyPhuD 02-12-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9398071)
Is he dead,or did he escape?

Edit. So no one knows. Thats just special

He was never there in the first place!!!!

:tinfoil:LMAO

KChiefer 02-12-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398110)
Anonymous calls ins report that the house did have escape route in basement

via police scanner

just an anonymous tip. could be bs

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...42pjo1_500.jpg

Titty Meat 02-12-2013 08:38 PM

So he escaped through the basement?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3792/2ake3ir.gif

In58men 02-12-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9398127)
So he escaped through the basement?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3792/2ake3ir.gif


We're hoping

Frazod 02-12-2013 08:40 PM

Oh man, if he gets out..... holy shit LMAO

Shogun 02-12-2013 08:40 PM

KETK_NealBarton
@KETK_NealBarton

We have confirmation from the Los Angeles Police Department the ex-cop from LA was shot and killed by a local sheriff's department sniper.

TLO 02-12-2013 08:41 PM

Go sniper guy

SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398135)
KETK_NealBarton
@KETK_NealBarton

We have confirmation from the Los Angeles Police Department the ex-cop from LA was shot and killed by a local sheriff's department sniper.

?

Huh?
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In58men 02-12-2013 08:42 PM

A body has been removed from the cabin.

pr_capone 02-12-2013 08:43 PM

http://www.ketknbc.com/news/source-d...by-sniper-team

Quote:

Sources: Fugitive ex-cop suspected in Big Bear robbery

LOS ANGELES (CNN) — UPDATE: According to a police source close to the situation, ex-LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner was shot and killed by a San Bernadino Sheriff's Department sniper.

Authorities then shot tear gas into the cabin housing the fugitive. Due to Dorner's believed experience with ordnance, authorities are letting the structure burn before entering.

Two sheriff's deputies have been wounded in a shootout with a suspect believed to be renegade ex-Los Angeles police officer Christopher Jordan Dorner, a high-ranking law official with knowledge of the investigation said Tuesday.

One of the deputies injured in Tuesday's shootout believed to be with ex-LAPD officer Christopher Jordan Dorner has died, according to CNN affiliates and the Los Angeles Times.

Dorner had stolen a vehicle from a house in the Big Bear area when he came upon a police roadblock, the source said. Dorner opened fire on the deputies and later was surrounded by authorities, the source said. The deputies were airlifted to a hospital with "unknown injuries," according to a statement from the San Bernadino County Sheriff's Department.

He was barricaded inside a cabin as officers moved in, the statement said.

The sheriff issued a statement asking news helicopters to pull back from the area because "gunfire is being exchanged."

LISTEN TO AUDIO OF THE GUNFIRE HERE

Authorities have been searching for Dorner since last week, after he was named as the suspect in the shooting deaths of the daughter of his police union representative and her fiance. Police also say he killed one police officer in Riverside and wounded two others on February 7.

The violent spree, authorities say, was part of Dorner's campaign of vigilante justice for what he believes was his unfair termination.

Los Angeles police spokesman Lt. Andy Neiman said Tuesday that the department had received more than 1,000 tips on Dorner's whereabouts. Some of the calls have come from Dorner's acquaintances or people who think they have spotted the fugitive.

The pace of tips being given to investigators increased by 400% after the city of Los Angeles put up a $1 million reward on Sunday for information leading to Dorner's arrest and conviction, Neiman said.

The search for the 270-pound, 6-foot Dorner has focused on the Big Bear Lake area, where authorities say his burning truck was discovered last week.

Over the past two weeks, the search, considered one of the largest in the history of Southern California, has taken authorities from Orange County to the border of Mexico and from Los Angeles to Big Bear Lake.

"Big Bear's still where we're looking right now," Neiman said Tuesday. The search area surrounds where Dorner's burning truck was discovered last Thursday .

"Until we can confirm that he's either there or he's not there, this investigation has to stick with what we know and what we know is that we found evidence that he was there," Neiman said.

While the LAPD spokesman told reporters he was "not ready to confirm" that a man seen in security camera video from a Southern California sporting goods store was Dorner, the Los Angeles Times quoted unnamed law enforcement sources saying it was him.

The video, published Monday by the celebrity news website TMZ.com, shows the man carrying what appears to be scuba equipment at the Sports Chalet store in Torrance, California, on February 1, two days before the killings of Monica Quan, the daughter of the police union rep, and her fiancé, Keith Lawrence.

A "no bail" arrest warrant was issued for Dorner after the Riverside County district attorney filed a murder charge Monday against him in the killing of Riverside Police Officer Michael Crain.

"That allows him to be apprehended anywhere within California, out of state or out of the country," District Attorney Paul Zellerbach told reporters Monday.

The murder charge is accompanied by two "special circumstances," including killing a police officer on duty and firing a weapon from a vehicle.

Dorner was also charged with the attempted murder of three other police officers, including another Riverside officer who was wounded when Crain was killed. That officer, whose name has not been released, is in a lot of pain and faces "many surgeries," Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz said.

Dorner is also accused of opening fire on two LAPD police officers, wounding one, in the suburb of Corona.

There has been speculation, based in part on an arrest warrant affidavit filed last week, that Dorner could have crossed state lines into Nevada or made his way to Mexico.

LAPD reopens case that led to Dorner's dismissal

Over the weekend, LAPD said it was reopening the case that resulted in his termination.

Dorner accused his training officer of kicking a mentally ill man during an arrest in 2007. The LAPD ruled the complaint unfounded and kicked Dorner off the force for filing a false complaint.

Dorner challenged his firing in court and lost.

In a manifesto released last week, Dorner blamed racism and corruption in the LAPD for his termination and vowed to wage "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare" against LAPD officers and their families. He called it a "last resort" to clear his name and strike back at a department he says mistreated him.

LAPD Chief Charlie Beck had a different term for it Sunday.

"This is an act -- and make no mistake about it -- of domestic terrorism," he told reporters Sunday. "This is a man who has targeted those that we entrust to protect the public. His actions cannot go unanswered."

Targeting police

Authorities say Dorner began making good on his threats on February 3 when he allegedly killed Quan, 27, and Lawrence in an Irvine parking lot, south of Los Angeles.

According to the manifesto, Randal Quan, Monica Quan's father, bungled Dorner's LAPD termination appeal.

Randal Quan represented Dorner during the disciplinary hearing that resulted in his firing. The officer was among dozens named in the manifesto.

The retired officer told investigators he received a call from someone identifying himself as Dorner who told him he "should have done a better job of protecting his daughter," according to a federal arrest warrant affidavit.

Investigators traced the call to Vancouver, Washington, but based on the timing of other sightings, they don't believe Dorner was in Vancouver at the time, the affidavit states.

Days later, early Thursday morning, Dorner allegedly opened fire on two LAPD police officers, wounding one, in the suburban city of Corona.

Roughly 20 minutes later, Dorner allegedly fired on two officers in the nearby city of Riverside, killing Crain and wounding another.

Since then, the LAPD has provided security and surveillance details for more than 50 police officers and their families -- many of whom were named in the manifesto.

Additionally, the LAPD is no longer releasing the police chief's schedule to the public or the media.

'Ghosts' of the LAPD's past

It was Dorner's allegations of racism at the LAPD that led Beck over the weekend to reopen the investigation into his claims.

Beck said he was not doing it to "appease a murderer" but out of concern that Dorner's allegations will resurrect a painful part of the department's history.

For years, the LAPD was dogged by complaints of racism and corruption. In 1965 and 1992, the city was rocked by racial riots that were sparked, in part, by claims of police racism and brutality.

"I hear the same things you hear: The ghosts of the past of the Los Angeles Police Department," Beck said Sunday. "I hear that people think maybe there is something to what he says, and I want to put that to rest."

Despite numerous reviews of Dorner's case, he said it has "never been reviewed by me."

"If there is anything new, we will deal with it, and we will deal with it in a public way," Beck said.

Shogun 02-12-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398142)
?

Huh?
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Yeah. not sure i understand. Was he burned or sniped?

Sorter 02-12-2013 08:43 PM

They are no longer maintaining perimeters via the scanner.

Al Czervik 02-12-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398135)
KETK_NealBarton
@KETK_NealBarton

We have confirmation from the Los Angeles Police Department the ex-cop from LA was shot and killed by a local sheriff's department sniper.

Nice....Hope it was a gut shot and he suffered for hours before dying.

CrazyPhuD 02-12-2013 08:45 PM

Just waiting for them to say the body was so mangled by the fire to prevent positive identification and dental/DNA records have been inconclusive.....

SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:47 PM

So they shot and killed him THEN burnt the house down?




Suuuuuuuuuure.
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dirk digler 02-12-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398135)
KETK_NealBarton
@KETK_NealBarton

We have confirmation from the Los Angeles Police Department the ex-cop from LA was shot and killed by a local sheriff's department sniper.

Oh well I guess there will be no outrage now. Good going sniper

NJChiefsFan 02-12-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9398095)
You have quite a busy law firm, don't you?

Haha. Indeed.

Sorter 02-12-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398164)
Oh well I guess there will be no outrage now. Good going sniper

That was a rumor posted on twitter nearly an hour ago...

Shogun 02-12-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398164)
Oh well I guess there will be no outrage now. Good going sniper

it was fake my fault for not thoroughly checking source, although CBS reports now that there was a body removed

KChiefer 02-12-2013 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398163)
So they shot and killed him THEN burnt the house down?




Suuuuuuuuuure.
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You're out of your element Donnie.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398164)
Oh well I guess there will be no outrage now. Good going sniper

You are like a little sheep.


Baaaaa for us now.
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SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9398174)
You're out of your element Donnie.

Really?

Cops burn houses down after killing the suspect all the time right?
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unlurking 02-12-2013 08:52 PM

What's the lesson in all this?

Stay out of LA. (And Florida just because)

KChiefer 02-12-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398181)
Really?

Cops burn houses down after killing the suspect all the time right?
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Here's a scenario. They shoot in tear gas that ends up starting the fire as Swat prepares to raid. Dorner tries to run, gets capped.

dirk digler 02-12-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9398169)
That was a rumor posted on twitter nearly an hour ago...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398172)
it was fake my fault for not thoroughly checking source, although CBS reports now that there was a body removed

thanks and no problem

SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9398192)
Here's a scenario. They shoot in tear gas that ends up starting the fire as Swat prepares to raid. Dorner tries to run, gets capped.

Except the article says he was shot then the tear gas was fired
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unlurking 02-12-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398197)
Except the article says he was shot then the tear gas was fired
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This whole story has been full of conflicting reports.

Frazod 02-12-2013 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9398188)
What's the lesson in all this?

Stay out of Kalifornia. (And Florida just because)

FYP

SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:55 PM

Look at pr Capone's post at 843.
Read the first part.

they sniped him and say the sniper killed him.

How can they say that? Then the house burned.
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SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9398203)
This whole story has been full of conflicting reports.

It's shady dude.

REALLY SHADY IMO
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KChiefer 02-12-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398197)
Except the article says he was shot then the tear gas was fired
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OK, so he was shot, they didn't know if he was dead or wounded. Unleashed tear gas, raided and found him dead. You're such a Sally for thinking that if a sniper has a shot in this situation he shouldn't take it.

unlurking 02-12-2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CNN
[Updated at 9:40 p.m. ET] The Los Angeles Police Department has scheduled a media briefing at midnight ET.

We're still waiting for details about the fire at the cabin, which began more than two hours ago.

.

dirk digler 02-12-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398176)
You are like a little sheep.


Baaaaa for us now.
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My bad I didn't know he was posting something fake.

I did post a story for you at #1348 about police using tear gas that might have burned down a house or the suspect did. Very similiar to what might have happened with Dorner. It seems that it is something that happens from time to time.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 08:57 PM

And like I said...


I AM IN NO WAY A CONSPIRACY THEORIST. check my posts here.

I'm the go along with what they tell us guy.

This situation just doesn't sit well with me AT ALL
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KChiefer 02-12-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9398203)
This whole story has been full of conflicting reports.

Just like Sandy Hook. CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!

Oh wait, it's just that the media has a tendency to be misinformed as a story breaks and pass it along to us. Carry on.

-King- 02-12-2013 08:59 PM

How the hell can tear gas start a fire?

unlurking 02-12-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9398226)
Just like Sandy Hook. CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!

Oh wait, it's just that the media has a tendency to be misinformed as a story breaks and pass it along to us. Carry on.

If we all didn't sit here like lemmings feeding off it, we might be a little ticked about that.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398222)
My bad I didn't know he was posting something fake.

I did post a story for you at #1348 about police using tear gas that might have burned down a house or the suspect did. Very similiar to what might have happened with Dorner. It seems that it is something that happens from time to time.

I read it, just couldn't respond because I couldn't quote that big ****er from my phone.

Those cops said they couldn't have set that fire. There wasn't anything with them saying to burn it down either. Did they spend a week shooting up people in cars that were slightly, as in Asian made, the same as that guys?
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GloryDayz 02-12-2013 09:01 PM

Another assault weapon death on our hands I suppose....

threebag 02-12-2013 09:01 PM

They have to make up the sniper story to save face. He probably was self inflicted. It's not like LAPD have shown the best marksmanship in the last week.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9398226)
Just like Sandy Hook. CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!

Oh wait, it's just that the media has a tendency to be misinformed as a story breaks and pass it along to us. Carry on.

See how many posts I have in any conspiracy thread here.


It's this whole situation that seems off to me.

Something isn't right
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SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9398248)
They have to make up the sniper story to save face. He probably was self inflicted. It's not like LAPD have shown the best marksmanship in the last week.

They burned him
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Shogun 02-12-2013 09:03 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cNk-bV40XMc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

KCUnited 02-12-2013 09:03 PM

LAPD regrets not setting the blue Toyota on fire.

dirk digler 02-12-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9398236)
How the hell can tear gas start a fire?

Incendiary Tear gas called burners. Some departments use them others don't.

CrazyPhuD 02-12-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9398246)
Another assault weapon death on our hands I suppose....

Actually not in this case. The press are starting to report that he actually had 500+ 1760s era Brown Bess muzzle loading muskets primed and loaded ready for the confrontation. They were strategically placed around the house to allow for rapid firing!

KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398260)
Incendiary Tear gas called burners. Some departments use them others don't.

Yup. It's one of the supposed causes of Waco burning.

dirk digler 02-12-2013 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398243)
I read it, just couldn't respond because I couldn't quote that big ****er from my phone.

Those cops said they couldn't have set that fire. There wasn't anything with them saying to burn it down either. Did they spend a week shooting up people in cars that were slightly, as in Asian made, the same as that guys?
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I have never justified the way the LAPD has handled this and the way they shot up innocents. I think they are one of the most corrupt\racist police organizations in this country.

But that story and the Dorner story is very very similar in how the police approached the standoff.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398260)
Incendiary Tear gas called burners. Some departments use them others don't.

Why?
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 02-12-2013 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9398236)
How the hell can tear gas start a fire?

Dude, tear gas grenades get VERY hot.

Quote:
A typical tear gas grenade contains a host of additional chemicals for heat dispersal of the irritant. When the solid CS powder heats up, it vaporizes into an easily dispersed aerosol.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/tear-gas.htm

stonedstooge 02-12-2013 09:09 PM

The story will be whatever they decide it should be. Duh

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398272)
I have never justified the way the LAPD has handled this and the way they shot up innocents. I think they are one of the most corrupt\racist police organizations in this country.

But that story and the Dorner story is very very similar in how the police approached the standoff.

Except the police say they did NOT use "burners"
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KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398297)
Except the police say they did NOT use "burners"
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link?

Shogun 02-12-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398297)
Except the police say they did NOT use "burners"
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Disagree.

Transcript from the police burning the place down

Quote:

Quote: "Make a big portal..."
3min later
"Guys can you pull that door out, we think they may be something underneath it.... go ahead and turn it and pull it out"
"See camouflage underneath that door?"
"No only some garbage bags... I see some blood splatter in the far corner"
"What corner?"
"Right across from the 1-4 corner"
"I think you're meaning the 1-2"
"Alright Steve* we're going to go ahead with our plan with the burner-"
"Copy"
"-the one we talked about"
4:16
Control, BURNERS DEPLOYED AND WE HAVE A FIRE
Copy, burners deployed and we have a fire

Guys be ready on the #4 side, we have fire on the front he might come out the back
One side fully engulfed, fire on the (port?, porch?)
...we're down here on... road... bring an engine down here
(14?) fires are out
ONE SHOT FIRED FROM INSIDE THE RESIDENCE
Roll in in stage
61 lincoln, to all units. all perimeter units. stand by
1-2 corner fully engulfed
we have ammo exploding inside
Control... status check
I'm over on the 4 side
we have fire back there yet?
....Fully engulfed
copy, number 2 and 4, fully engulfed

threebag 02-12-2013 09:11 PM

They used gas but I thought it was after he shot himself?

KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 9398307)
They used gas but I thought it was after he shot himself?

Also plausible.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398306)
Disagree.

Transcript from the police burning the place down

We were talking about a different situation.

Read the other article he posted.

In THAT situation the police said they did not use burners and the house burnt.
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SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9398304)
link?

His other article about a different situation.
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Shogun 02-12-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398316)
We were talking about a different situation.

Read the other article he posted.

In THAT situation the police said they did not use burners and the house burnt.
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Yeah just noticed, sorry. Not all here today

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398055)
Here you go Jason. Bad police


http://www.modbee.com/2012/04/13/215...dentified.html



Authorities on Friday found a body in the charred rubble of a burned apartment building where a gunman holed up for 11 hours Thursday after a sheriff's deputy and a locksmith were killed while trying to serve an eviction notice.

Modesto police would not say Friday who they suspect was inside the home, but they presume he is dead.

Court documents indicate that 45-year-old James Ferrario was the person being evicted. Neighbors and family members described him as an anti-social, paranoid and sometimes strange man.

Stanislaus County Sheriff Adam Christianson said he is convinced the body found was the gunman who killed Deputy Bob Paris, 53, and locksmith Glendon Engert, 35. A second deputy was uninjured.

"This senseless act of violence was committed by one person and he is dead," Christianson said.

One former neighbor said Ferrario sprayed bear mace on a friend and her husband after a dispute over loud noise aboutsix years ago. Police were called but no one was arrested. Others said he hardly left his home, where he stored hunting rifles, handguns, a Kevlar vest and a gas mask. They said he installed several surveillance cameras outside the apartment.


The body was discovered in the ruins of the northwest Modesto home that caught fire late Thursday. Modesto police gave no other details, such as gender.

Authorities believe it might take days or possibly weeks to confirm the identity of the body. Nobody else was found in the burned building.
Investigators would not say whether the gunman fired at the victims through the apartment's front door, or if either of the deputies had a chance to return fire. Some neighbors have described hearing several bursts of shots.

The only building damaged in the fire in the 2100 block of Chrysler Drive was the fourplex where the gunman was Thursday. The building has four apartments, and the suspect was believed to be on the first floor.

Fire origin unclear


It's still unclear how the fire began. Christianson acknowledged late Thursday night that a combination of flash-bang devices and tear gas could have been responsible.

Friday afternoon, Modesto police officer Chris Adams insisted that SWAT teams did nothing that would have started the blaze.

He said there are two types of tear gas cannisters police use. One is an incendiary cannister called a "burner," which can start a fire, Adams said. The department doesn't deploy burners; it only uses nonincendiary cannisters.

He said SWAT teams from several police agencies — including Modesto's — surrounded the home. The Modesto squad was stationed in front of the home. Investigators were certain the gunman was alive Thursday night, because someone was turning the lights off and on inside the home as SWAT teams launched tear gas into the apartment.

"We exhausted every option to try to get the suspect to surrender," Christianson said Friday.

About 9 p.m. Thursday, a small team of SWAT officers from various agencies approached the front of the home, including Modesto police. The huge blaze erupted about 9:45 p.m., engulfing the apartment building.
"We didn't have anybody go inside the house," Adams said. "We didn't deploy anything inside the house that should have set the fire."

The sheriff said everyone living in or near the building had been evacuated, so neighbors were not in danger.

The fire burned for several hours. Firefighters took a defensive stance, using a high-pressure hose from a ladder truck to attack the blaze from a mobile home park north of the apartment building.



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unlurking 02-12-2013 09:15 PM

From CNN again...

Quote:

[Updated at 10:02 p.m. ET] A body believed to be that of Christopher Dorner has been pulled from the burning cabin, multiple law enforcement sources tell CNN contributor Tom Fuentes. The sources say they were told this by LAPD.

Law enforcement personnel will conduct a forensic exam to identify the body, the sources say.

KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398322)
His other article about a different situation.
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Didn't know that's what you were referring to. I thought you were talking about THIS fire where "burners" WERE used.

dirk digler 02-12-2013 09:18 PM

It seems tear gas causing fires is not uncommon...
Quote:

Report: SWAT tear gas rounds likely ignited Calif. fire

According to the report, the tear gas rounds were non-flammable

By Tony Burchyns
San Jose Mercury News

Police tear gas launched into a Vallejo home in February during a SWAT-team standoff played a role in starting a fire that caused $60,000 in damage and killed two dogs, a fire department report released Monday finds.

However, the Feb. 10 two-alarm blaze at 1041 Castlewood Drive was deemed "accidental in nature," according to the 13-page investigation report.

The exact cause was undetermined. But it likely involved one of the non-flammable rounds hitting or knocking over flammable household products, the report said.

The fire began shortly after police launched 12 tear gas rounds into various parts of the house. Police were trying to ferret out as many as six armed robbery suspects believed to be inside. However, it was later determined that the suspects had slipped away before police established a perimeter.

According to the report, the tear gas rounds were non-flammable. But one of the 37-mm projectiles fired through the back door could have penetrated or knocked over a household product containing flammable chemicals. At that point, vapors could have been released and ignited when reaching an ignition source, such as the flame from a nearby water heater.

Under another scenario, a chemical reaction releasing heat could have occurred when the chemicals inside the projectile came into contact with one or more household products stored inside the utility room.

Thirdly, the report said that a tear gas canister, after penetrating the rear door, may have entered the utility room and either knocked over or breached other containers of household products. If this occurred, then those products could have come into contact with each other, creating a heat-generating reaction that ignited other combustibles.

unlurking 02-12-2013 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398297)
Except the police say they did NOT use "burners"
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But they still may have caused the fire...

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Christianson acknowledged late Thursday night that a combination of flash-bang devices and tear gas could have been responsible.

SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9398343)
It seems tear gas causing fires is not uncommon...

All in Cali. Lol
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SAUTO 02-12-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 9398351)
But they still may have caused the fire...

Which is nuts. If they aren't incendiary why would they burn?
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KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398370)
All in Cali. Lol
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and florida...
http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...rgate_fire.htm

KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398376)
Which is nuts. If they aren't incendiary why would they burn?
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They get super hot. Ever set off a mega smoke bomb?

Shogun 02-12-2013 09:28 PM

Well I wonder if this is where the story of Chocolate Rambo dies? Or if it has a next chapter

unlurking 02-12-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefer (Post 9398384)

****ing Florida!
:cuss:

Shogun 02-12-2013 09:30 PM

NOT SURE IF LEGIT OR NOT

https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/301529848785022976

LAPD HQ
@LAPDHQ

#LAPD HAS NOT CONFIRMED OR MADE ANY STATEMENTS REGARDING A BODY BEING LOCATED, REMOVED OR IDENTIFIED FROM THE LOCATION IN SAN BERNARDINO

unlurking 02-12-2013 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9398376)
Which is nuts. If they aren't incendiary why would they burn?
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No clue, I only use napalm so I don't have to worry about it.

Strongside 02-12-2013 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 9398407)
NOT SURE IF LEGIT OR NOT

https://twitter.com/LAPDHQ/status/301529848785022976

LAPD HQ
@LAPDHQ

#LAPD HAS NOT CONFIRMED OR MADE ANY STATEMENTS REGARDING A BODY BEING LOCATED, REMOVED OR IDENTIFIED FROM THE LOCATION IN SAN BERNARDINO

That fool done did the dip. Probably tunneled his way out. He's kayaking to Indonesia as we speak. We're not dealing with a human being here. We'll dealing with a freak cyborg molerat.

Shogun 02-12-2013 09:32 PM

news conference link

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nbcnews.c...3386/#50773386

KChiefer 02-12-2013 09:32 PM

Looks like these fires even happen in your own private Idaho

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Coeur d'Alene, ID- A report distributed today by an Idaho State Fire Marshall shows that tear gas was the source of a house fire on July 12, 2006. The canister first ignited the fabric covering and foam cushions of a couch in the residence.

On the night of July 11, 2006 Coeur d' Alene Fire Department was requested by Coeur d' Alene Police Department to standby for a subject who barricaded himself in a house at 1517 E. Satre. At approximately 2:14 a.m., the fire department was advised to advance to the structure as a fire had started in the house after an injection of tear gas. As the fire department advanced, the fire quickly consumed the entire south end of the structure and extended into the attic area.
http://www.khq.com/Global/story.asp?S=5203291

Shogun 02-12-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9398418)
That fool done did the dip. Probably tunneled his way out. He's kayaking to Indonesia as we speak. We're not dealing with a human being here. We'll dealing with a freak cyborg molerat.

http://boards.420chan.org/sagan/src/1351266097766.gif

lewdog 02-12-2013 09:35 PM

So I made dinner and showered. What has gone on since Anderson Cooper still didn't know shit?

unlurking 02-12-2013 09:36 PM

Considering they call these things "burners", might we have a better understanding of the context of the phrases heard in the audio?


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