You guys are pros at missing the point. First rate. Truly incredible.

I'm not saying that Denver" should have won, oh they were so close!" I'm saying that the offense and special teams made multiple game-changing mistakes throughout the game, while by comparison, the defense did not have the same type of mistakes, and taking into account the mistakes made by the other parts of the team, played a relatively good game. If your only response is "but look at all the points" then we can probably stop wasting our time discussing it.

Short field or not, your defense wilted when it mattered and allowed TDs instead of field goals at critical points in the game.

On top of that, players that were supposed to make an impact defensively were basically invisible. See: Von Miller and Champ Bailey.

Nantz and Simms bothered me on this play. They kept looking at his hair and shoulders to try to determine if he was out of bounds, completely ignoring the fact that Chris Clark is touching out of bounds and touching Walden, making him out of bounds, well before the ball was recovered.

When it mattered most? They held Indy to 102 yards and a single TD in the second half.

What bothered me about that play was the lack of blood from Manning.

I actually didn't say "most" and I was referring mostly to the first half. Your defense gave up TDs instead of field goals consistently and allowed the Colts to steamroll through you for, what, a 12 point lead at half? If I remember correctly they had 30 points heading into half time?

OP needs updated.

LMAO

What? That's not the way football works.

No. YOU'RE missing the point. I know you're not saying that. I'm not trying to make that point. I'm trying to say your defense is dogshit.

You pointed to turnovers leading to short fields for the Colts offense to score those 33 points. I pointed to only one of them that actually led to a TD when the Colts started on your side of the field.

You know what? You're right. It doesn't matter. Your defense sucks balls.

Care to expand on that? It's a live ball

Orakpo and Kerrigan are coming to wreck that ass

10 points came on drives when the Colts started on their side of the field.

27 points came from when they didn't.

2 points came from the safety.

I guess the starting position only matters when it comes from a turnover, though?

The ****ing cowboys hung 48 on you. And the JAGUARS scored 19 ROFL


Ps is champ bailey done?

Yes it does.

Anything touching out of bounds is fully out of bounds. Therefore, Clark is fully out of bounds when his hand touches the white. Walden is touching Clark, and is also out of bounds. If doesn't matter that the ball is live. If Clark were not there and Walden recovered the ball while it was in bounds, but a part of Walden's body was out, the ball is then out.

You got a glimpse at the open maw of your future and you are afraid.

Don't ****ing stare a dog down if you aren't willing to get bit...

All this tells us is that the donkeys led by the forehead will fail (as usual) when faced with a good D that can smother wide recievers and smack him in the mouth.

I hope it's snowing for our games

It's his MO.

It's what he does.

I don't.

I just hope it's super-****-you-cold...

Expanded your post.

This is cute all the Bronco lemmings defending their garbage d. Reminds me of 2003.

I'm pretty sure you're a little off on that, but I can't say that with 100% confidence. By that logic, there could be a string of guys holding hands, and they'd call the ball OOB at midfield.

You're definitely correct that a player OOB touching the BALL is considered to be out, but I've never heard that an OOB player touching an in-bounds player makes the in-bounds player OOB.

I'm going off of memory, but I'm about 90% sure. It happened, and was explained that way, in a Broncos game a few years ago.

Nope.


Players have touched the ball runner while standing OB a million times and the runner is not called out.

Elway better hope and pray that Manning gets him a ring bc he hasn't done shit to build that team. Without Manning they are 4-12.

Honestly, aside from the layup draft pick of Von Miller, he really hasn't done that much. Weaker came bc if Manning, not Elway

Another embarrasing excuse...pathetic

Why aren't you counting the 80 yards more Indy would have had if Luck wouldn't have missed an easy TD to Wayne? How embarrasing would giving up 46 on National TV have been ROFLThat is more fluky than a slapdick RB fumbling.

What is RG3 going to do this week? He's getting back into form and faces a D that Henne feasted on.

Plus two other 50 yard dropped TD passes.

Yeah this isn't correct. You must also think Decker's ball in the front corner of the endzone was a touchdown also.

JFC they are awful

You may now begin addressing Hef as "Peytons Prostate". We are WINNING this goddamned division.

You're god damned right

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/despit...rm-looks-weak/

Despite What Peyton Manning Says, His Arm Looks Weak And It Could Be A Major Issue
by Eric Goldschein | 12:06 pm, October 21st, 2013

The Broncos finally lost last night — to the Colts, of all teams. Perhaps it was the emotion of Peyton Manning returning to Indianapolis, or the fact that Andrew Luck played like an absolute stud, but at the end of the day, the Broncos lost and a loss is a loss.

If you didn’t watch the game, you might think that, on paper, Peyton Manning played extremely well, while his offense line failed to protect him at critical junctures and his team got called for tons of stupid penalties that amounted to over 100 yards lost. This is, to a point, not false: Manning had almost 400 yards and threw for 3 TDs, and you can’t argue with those numbers.

But his arm looked, in a word, terrible. Particularly after Robert Mathis got to Manning, hit him during his windup, and forced a safety (via @jose3030):
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Manning’s passes were often under-thrown, and no pass over 10 yards had anything resembling a spiral to it. Thankfully for Manning, he has an incredibly talented receiving corps that made some fantastic plays on his poor balls, like Demaryius Thomas did here (via GIFD Sports):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Go9mkWJjMB...thomastdgt.gif

Or like Eric Decker did here:

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The Colts secondary was also depleted by injuries by the fourth quarter, and mostly played a prevent defense to protect their large lead (which they almost gave up, but were bailed out by Ronnie Hillman’s red zone fumble). Basically, Manning lucked (no pun intended) out.

The fact that the Broncos almost still won this game is a testament to their talent and skill. They’re still an elite team. But the shine is coming off Peyton Manning after he started the season blazing hot. Despite what his teammates might say, NFL insiders testify that his arm strength isn’t nearly what it used to be. And if you think a 37-year old with neck issues is going to get stronger as the weeks pile up, you’re clearly a Broncos fan.

The Broncos have their toughest stretch of schedule coming up, with two games against the Chiefs in a three week span and a game in Foxboro in between them. And come playoff time — Manning’s long-time Achilles heel — the Broncos will face nothing but quality teams. It’s doubtful that the kind of passes Manning threw for touchdowns last night will end up in his teammates hands with the same regularity as they did yesterday.

After the game, Manning was asked about his arm strength issues, to which he replied: “I throw a lot of wobbly passes. I throw a lot of wobbly touchdowns, too.” Oh, snap, he done told us. But seriously, those wobbly passes will become wobbly interceptions if he keeps throwing them at this rate (read: every time he throws). Besides an undisciplined defense and ball security issues (both fixable), Manning’s arm could end up being the Broncos undoing.

No, that happens when you actually win the division, not when you go up by one game in October, with 5 division games still to play.

NO WTF WE ALREADY WON THE SUPERBOWL IN SPITE OF AXL SMIF AND ERIC FISHER

While we're tearing the Broncos a new asshole, how much of a pussy is Eric Decker? He LITERALLY looked for a flag on every ****ing pass he didn't catch on Sunday night. There was even one time he was throwing his hands up to draw a flag while the ball landed 5 feet from him. Had he attempted to make the catch instead of being a little crybaby bitch, that would have had a real chance of being a completion.

I ****ing hate that guy.

He could have caught a ball, but bitched instead. I am going to refer to him as Euro. He is nothing without Manning and still swings the smallest, most vanillaest penis in the West.

On a side note, I gained a shit ton of respect for Demaryius Thomas during that game. He NEVER whined and cried for flag help despite some physical, press coverage from Vontae all game.

I do wonder, though, if our guys will get those calls when we play them.

I have no respect for Tremens at all. Beat him the **** up....and I think you know the answer to that question.

Here's where you STFU and lay down...

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Uh-Oh...Time to update the OP :)

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/powerrankings

LMAO

uh wtf, that jacked up the page

Look, as far as I'm concerned, I still think the Broncos are the best team in the NFL. I'm just trying to get you to be a man and admit that your defense sucks balls.

You appear to be incapable of doing that.

That's Knowmo bullshit, dude. You're better than that.

Good job, loochy. You broke the internet.

So, I'm guessing turd dick hasn't showed up yet to take his lumps?

It's Knowmo's fault

Obama + KnowMo = CP's very own Satan!

Against the Cowboys, they were terrible. Against the Ravens, Giants, Raiders, and Jaguars, they were bad. Against the Eagles and Colts, I felt they were ok. The difference was the offense having 7 drives in a row for a total of 23 yards and a safety.

Completely irrelevant. If Denver ended up winning that wouldn't have changed that the defense sucked and does suck. Teams aren't going to go 50 yards or more for a score on every drive.

If you consider OK to be giving up 39 points, then you probably aren't capable of admitting the defense sucks.

Weird. I heard completely different things when Cassel was in KC.

Somehow the Chiefs have been able to hold their opponents to field goals when they turn the ball over in their own territory.

I wonder what gives.

Uh, they have a better defense. I think that's clear.

Cassel was a terrible QB because he was terrible. People who claim it's because he turned the ball over constantly don't remember the other shit he was notorious for doing.

If you want to point to a reason why the Chiefs were 2-14 last year, field position wasn't it.

The offense going 3 and out as an excuse for the defense performing poorly has been used around here for more than one year.

Cassel and coaching was why we were 2-14

In 2012, maybe. It was hard for me to admit as well that all this talent we had on defense was turning them into a piss poor unit, but it really was scheme and coaching that got us in the end.

People don't remember the missed tackles, bad angles, broken coverages, dumb penalties, lack of blitzes, lack of turnovers, and poorly trained and prepared players from poor coaches.

Our defense sucked in 2012 for THOSE reasons.

Bump

Yes, a mod better fix this shit.

2011 as well. I remember looking up who had more 3 and outs, the Tebow led Broncos or the Cassel led Chiefs, in the middle of a comparison of defenses.

Anyway, you made me do it. Here comes the stats-troll:

Who gave up more 10+ yard plays on Sunday, Chiefs or Broncos? Chiefs.

Who held their opponent to more negative yardage plays? Broncos.

Who allowed more yards per play? Chiefs.

Who forced more punts? Broncos.

Who gave up only 16 pts? Who won? Case closed

And being on a short field because the offense kept giving the ball away.

LMAO

Who allowed less points?

Who has the most sacks?

None of the garbage you are spouting matters.

Why is that funny?

Why are you a ****ing moron?

39 pts. allowed...16 Holy balls this is getting dumb ROFL

Oh, SNR...

Britton also had a terrible game, so much so that Dustin is in the lead for the first time this season. Congrats.

From PFT....ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

So when does Von Miller’s suspension end?

LMAO

The Terrance Copper Institute is excited

ROFL ROFL

OMG LMAO

I'd hope that was the hit that starts the down spiral for the donkeys

Dicky-Boy Dickernut is my new McCaffrey, with 20% extra douche for added value. I want to see that gay cop mustache literally knocked right the **** off of his face.

Who played against Andrew Luck?

Which team only plays against 3rd string QB's?

Tony romo is 3rd string? Mike Vick is too?