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BossChief 03-24-2021 01:52 PM

We also have some promising UDFAs from last year that have had a year to learn the system.

It’s possible one of those guys steps up and pushes for playing time.

Multiple WR spots being available with the best QB in the game will motivate some of these kids to play above their ceiling.

O.city 03-24-2021 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601647)
2 isn’t “about every free agent WR” you dumb mother****er.

So anything more than 1 is “about every”?

JFC

The Chiefs have been aggressive for receiver help. They've been in, to some degree, on many of the big names -- JuJu Smith-Schuster, Corey Davis, Curtis Samuel and A.J. Green.

Per Jeremy Fowler.

So yeah, I'd say thats "about every free agent WR".

And calm down.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 01:52 PM

Remember the name JODY FORTSON JR!!

O.city 03-24-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601668)
Also, too much is made of the Chiefs offense being too difficult for a rookie WR to contribute.

Hardman and Tyreek both had 500+ yards and multiple TD’s as rookies in this offense. And those are 2 guys that were still learning the ****ing position more or less the offense.

My issue is, alot of that was somewhat gimmicky stuff, not necessarily WR stuff.

They need someone to come in and be able to win 1 on 1 out at the X in the intermediate area.

Lilmrp117 03-24-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601662)
I’m just going to stop you right here.

The Chiefs essentially have two top 5 WR’s. They aren’t relying on whoever they sign or draft to be a “big contributor”, especially early on. They will have plenty of time to learn and get their feet wet. The hope is that they can be a contributor down the stretch, which is entirely possible.

It doesn’t matter whether you sign a veteran or draft a guy, they’re still behind Kelce, Hill, and probably CEH in the pecking order.

So when NE or TB takes Hill and Kelce away, we are going to rely on a rookie WR as our go to option? In the 2018 AFC championship, Sammy stepping up was a huge part of the comeback to force OT after a horrible first half. In the Super Bowl this year, nobody stepped up and mahomes has nobody open even when he had time. Who's going to step up now? A rookie? God, I hope so. or maybe Callaway? those options do not give me too much confidence though. i hope I'm wrong.

RunKC 03-24-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601668)
Also, too much is made of the Chiefs offense being too difficult for a rookie WR to contribute.

Hardman and Tyreek both had 500+ yards and multiple TD’s as rookies in this offense. And those are 2 guys that were still learning the ****ing position more or less the offense.

Obviously that’s not how the Chiefs feel considering they tried to get Juju and Reynolds

In58men 03-24-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15601677)
Remember the name JODY FORTSON JR!!

Lol k

staylor26 03-24-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601673)
The Chiefs have been aggressive for receiver help. They've been in, to some degree, on many of the big names -- JuJu Smith-Schuster, Corey Davis, Curtis Samuel and A.J. Green.

Per Jeremy Fowler.

So yeah, I'd say thats "about every free agent WR".

And calm down.

Rumored interest doesn’t count. They weren’t going after any of those guys aggressively except JuJu and maybe Reynolds.

If they’ve been as aggressive as you’re claiming, they would’ve signed at least 1 of those guys. They didn’t. That tells me everything I need to know about how how bad they wanted them.

staylor26 03-24-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15601682)
Obviously that’s not how the Chiefs feel considering they tried to get Juju and Reynolds

And yet they didn’t sign any of them.

Clearly they’re comfortable doing it through the draft.

O.city 03-24-2021 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601689)
Rumored interest doesn’t count. They weren’t going after any of those guys aggressively except JuJu and maybe Reynolds.

If they’ve been as aggressive as you’re claiming, they would’ve signed at least 1 of those guys. They didn’t. That tells me everything I need to know about how how bad they wanted them.

One of ESPN's big insiders says that have been, so I may go with what he says?

O.city 03-24-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601690)
And yet they didn’t sign any of them.

Clearly they’re comfortable doing it through the draft.

Same with LT?

staylor26 03-24-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601691)
One of ESPN's big insiders says that have been, so I may go with what he says?

If you think the Chiefs “aggressively” pursued all of those WR’s only to end up with 0 of them, then you have a different definition of aggressive than I do.

When Veach is being aggressive, he gets something done.

staylor26 03-24-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601692)
Same with LT?

The second best OT after Williams is still a free agent. They were prepared to give Williams 20+ million per year. They wouldn’t even offer JuJu more than 8 with incentives.

So no, not the same as LT.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601702)
If you think the Chiefs “aggressively” pursued all of those WR’s only to end up with 0 of them, then you have a different definition of aggressive than I do.

When Veach is being aggressive, he gets something done.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601706)
The second best OT after Williams is still a free agent. They were prepared to give Williams 20+ million per year.

So no, not the same as LT.

The second best OT would be....who exactly?

They only have so much draft capitol to use on guys that will be ready day 1. They need a WR to be ready to play out there day one.

It's possible they couldn't close the deal on guys they aggressively pursued.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601709)
The second best OT would be....who exactly?

They only have so much draft capitol to use on guys that will be ready day 1. They need a WR to be ready to play out there day one.

It's possible they couldn't close the deal on guys they aggressively pursued.

LMAO

No they don’t. They really don’t.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:02 PM

I don't really think I'd have dipped much toes into the FA market at WR once a few guys were gone anyway, but if they've been aggressive and have missed thats not good.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601714)
LMAO

No they don’t. They really don’t.

You can say that all you want. Unless they're gonna have Pringle do it, they do.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601719)
You can say that all you want. Unless they're gonna have Pringle do it, they do.

Because Pringle is such a significant drop off from Robinson and Sammy on the sidelines.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601723)
Because Pringle is such a significant drop off from Robinson and Sammy on the sidelines.

No, but thats why they are trying to upgrade the spot.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601725)
No, but thats why they are trying to upgrade the spot.

Wanting to upgrade isn’t the same as needing a WR that can go out there day 1. They don’t need a day 1 WR. They need to add talent and depth for the long haul.

BossChief 03-24-2021 02:07 PM

I’m sure competing teams are using the

“They just cut both starting OTs and haven’t resigned 2 of their own receivers. Shit there’s only 1 ball and nobody besides Hill and Kelce get it. If you want to try to build your value for next offseason, good luck in KC. If they don’t fix that OL, Pat might get killed. Did you watch the Super Bowl?”

O.city 03-24-2021 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601728)
Wanting to upgrade isn’t the same as needing a WR that can go out there day 1. They don’t need a day 1 WR. They need to add talent and depth for the long haul.

Well, currently their X WR is an undrafted FA who's been pretty meh, so yeah, I'd say they "need" pretty hard out there.

BossChief 03-24-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601728)
Wanting to upgrade isn’t the same as needing a WR that can go out there day 1. They don’t need a day 1 WR. They need to add talent and depth for the long haul.

They need both.

Cant keep throwing garbage out there at the x and letting teams bracket Kelce and Hill.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601732)
Well, currently their X WR is an undrafted FA who's been pretty meh, so yeah, I'd say they "need" pretty hard out there.

And their X WR for the majority of last season was Demarcus ****ing Robinson and they went 14-2 and had far bigger problems than their X WR.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601736)
And their X WR for the majority of last season was Demarcus ****ing Robinson and they went 14-2 and had far bigger problems than their X WR.

Shit if thats the case, why'd they upgrade the LG spot, it was fine

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 02:09 PM

Pretty clear Veach didn't see any of the FA WRs this year as long term solutions. All we offered were 1 year prove it deals.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15601734)
They need both.

Cant keep throwing garbage out there at the x and letting teams bracket Kelce and Hill.

If the OL was even average, it wouldn’t have even mattered and they would’ve repeated.

They need more talent/depth at WR in general. They don’t need a day 1 starter for the regular season.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15601741)
Pretty clear Veach didn't see any of the FA WRs this year as long term solutions. All we offered were 1 year prove it deals.

This I agree with.

I also think guys want 1 year deals to see what's gonna happen with the cap.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601740)
Shit if thats the case, why'd they upgrade the LG spot, it was fine

Umm are we seriously comparing the IOL to the WR position for the 2020 season?

1 was obviously a much bigger problem than the other. JFC.

O.city 03-24-2021 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601746)
Umm are we seriously comparing the IOL to the WR position for the 2020 season?

1 was obviously a much bigger problem than the other. JFC.

It was good enough to win 14 games and go to the SB.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15601752)
It was good enough to win 14 games and go to the SB.

But 1 was a clear issue along the way while the other wasn’t.

The Chiefs finished with 2 top 5 WR’s in 2020.

Their IOL was bottom 3.

Lilmrp117 03-24-2021 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15601734)
They need both.

Cant keep throwing garbage out there at the x and letting teams bracket Kelce and Hill.

Bingo!

JakeF 03-24-2021 02:21 PM

So now we are going to fill LT, WR, DE, and Center in this draft with players good enough to start and produce year one? Not to mention all the depth we need.

3 picks in the first 100 (at the end of each round)
2 in the 4th
2 in the 5th
1 in the 6th

I look forward to seeing Reid's super intern have the best draft in NFL history this year.

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 15601792)
So now we are going to fill LT, WR, DE, and Center in this draft with players good enough to start and produce year one? Not to mention all the depth we need.

3 picks in the first 100 (at the end of each round)
2 in the 4th
2 in the 5th
1 in the 6th

I look forward to seeing Reid's super intern have the best draft in NFL history this year.

1. Center is almost surely going to be Reiter. Worst case scenario Allegretti is starting there. We have a starting caliber C on the roster.

2. They will sign a DE. There are still a number of options.

That leaves LT and WR for the big needs through the draft.

It’s also entirely possible, even likely, that they sign or trade for a veteran LT.

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 02:26 PM

Hindsight being 20/20, would've been nice to use the money we'd earmarked for Williams on Curtis Samuel and Carl Lawson instead. That part of Williams leading us on to maximize his SF deal does kind of suck.

The Franchise 03-24-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15601808)
Hindsight being 20/20, would've been nice to use the money we'd earmarked for Williams on Curtis Samuel and Carl Lawson instead. That part of Williams leading us on to maximize his SF deal does kind of suck.

Yep. I think that’s the part that annoys me the most about it. If we weren’t in on Williams for as long as we were...we may have been in on other guys.

MahomesMagic 03-24-2021 02:33 PM

Assuming we use our first pick on tackle I wouldn't mind grabbing Tamorrion Terry and Jaelan Darden 3rd round and later.

Terry would give us a big, fast body to plug into Sammy's spot and could hurt people if they overcompensate for Hill and/or Kelce. Darden is a fun toy that I think Reid could throw out as well.

Lilmrp117 03-24-2021 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15601824)
Yep. I think that’s the part that annoys me the most about it. If we weren’t in on Williams for as long as we were...we may have been in on other guys.

I'm not sure why we couldn't have been in on the other guys anyway. they didn't sign until after williams turned us down at least samuel didn't and there were other guys we could have went after for a plan b.

RunKC 03-24-2021 02:42 PM

No deal on 5 of their 6 reported top FA prospects with Ingram leaving a team visit

Sonofabitch

staylor26 03-24-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15601852)
No deal on 5 of their 6 reported top FA prospects with Ingram leaving a team visit

Sonofabitch

Yea and the best they can possibly hope for is a solid draft because it’s impossible to have 2 great drafts in a row.

Might as well pack it in.

Hopefully we can be competitive in 2022.

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15601852)
No deal on 5 of their 6 reported top FA prospects with Ingram leaving a team visit

Sonofabitch

Meh. Only missed out on one that we were putting actual effort into signing. Throwing out a bunch of rejected one year prove it deals doesn't really register as Veach not being able to close a deal in my mind.

-King- 03-24-2021 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601864)
Yea and the best they can possibly hope for is a solid draft because it’s impossible to have 2 great drafts in a row.

Might as well pack it in.

Hopefully we can be competitive in 2022.

Gotta love the projection LMAO

ToxSocks 03-24-2021 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15601501)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TY Hilton expected to return to Colts on a one-year deal, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1374795391904940041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Don't care, didn't want him anyway.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601511)
Chiefs are drafting a WR somewhere in the first 2 rounds. You can pretty much lock that in.

And this.

Start looking at guys who are 6'-1"+ and can run, because i bet that's what the Chiefs are looking at.

ToxSocks 03-24-2021 02:56 PM

We're gonna start the season with a Rookie LT/RT, Lucas "i gave chase young all he could handle" Niang, and a Rookie WR.

I think we coulda guessed that though when Williams signed with SF.

It's not a great FA class. Not many guys out there this year worth paying.

ToxSocks 03-24-2021 02:58 PM

Start queing up those mother****in' WR highlight videos because the impact FA signing period is effectively over.

We can shift our focus to the draft full time at this point.

BossChief 03-24-2021 02:59 PM

This draft is a HUGE value draft.

The highest paid positions in the nfl (OT, WR, EDGE) are deep in this draft class snd we have needs in all 3.

It’s an ideal situation for incoming draft picks, too.

WRs get to play with the best QB in football.
DE gets to play with Jones, Clark and other talented guys to help him blossom.
The OT gets to play next to a second team all pro that will help him acclimate snd excel and in front of a HOF QB

The 3 kids we put in those positions are going to have HUGE OPPORTUNITIES to look really good.

If we hit on all 3 picks, that’s MASSIVE to the future salary cap. Especially if Niang turns out to be good, too...which I think he will.

Bowser 03-24-2021 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15601895)
Start queuing up those mother****in' WR highlight videos because the impact FA signing period is effectively over.

We can shift our focus to the draft full time at this point.

For a true starting X receiver, I agree. There might be a couple of guys worthy of throwing low risk deals at yet, but yeah, we're taking a receiver early this year.

staylor26 03-24-2021 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15601879)
Gotta love the projection LMAO

I don’t think you know what that word means. I’m just going by RunKC’s logic. If free agency was a disaster and the absolute best we can hope for is a solid draft because the “law of averages”, sounds like we’re ****ed.

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15601895)
Start queing up those mother****in' WR highlight videos because the impact FA signing period is effectively over.

We can shift our focus to the draft full time at this point.

Rashod Bateman and Terrace Marshall in the first round.
There are a ton of guys in the middle of the draft.

-King- 03-24-2021 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15601910)
I don’t think you know what that word means. I’m just going by RunKC’s logic. If free agency was a disaster and the absolute best we can hope for is a solid draft because the “law of averages”, sounds like we’re ****ed.

All he said was we missed on 5 of 6 of the players we tried to get. You took that as not only is the off season over, but the season overall too. LMAO How?!? You gotta start doing breathing exercises before you post. You're way too worked up.

OKchiefs 03-24-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15601918)
Rashod Bateman and Terrace Marshall in the first round.
There are a ton of guys in the middle of the draft.

I'm completely on board with a first round WR, but in that scenario how are we addressing LT? Unless they sign a vet FA as a stopgap I don't see how you're not forced to take an OT in round 1. Signing someone like Okung of course opens up your options.

And if their plan is to trade for a LT I would assume that involves the RD 1 pick, so we're not getting a WR there in that case. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15601927)
I'm completely on board with a first round WR, but in that scenario how are we addressing LT? Unless they sign a vet FA as a stopgap I don't see how you're not forced to take an OT in round 1. Signing someone like Okung of course opens up your options.

And if their plan is to trade for a LT I would assume that involves the RD 1 pick, so we're not getting a WR there in that case. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

Here’s a theory. Somebody like Rankin or Niang plays LT but we re sign Fisher. He comes back when he’s fully healthy

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15601927)
I'm completely on board with a first round WR, but in that scenario how are we addressing LT? Unless they sign a vet FA as a stopgap I don't see how you're not forced to take an OT in round 1. Signing someone like Okung of course opens up your options.

And if their plan is to trade for a LT I would assume that involves the RD 1 pick, so we're not getting a WR there in that case. I'm anxious to see how this plays out.

WR in round 1. Trade up on round two for Walker Little, Dillon Radunz, hell....Liam Eichenberg.

-King- 03-24-2021 03:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">While a signing could come of this at some point, the thinking is that the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> pursued Clowney last year, but never really got to sit down with him face-to-face. That happens now, and we’ll see if they get together on a deal. <a href="https://t.co/oQi22gAfVr">https://t.co/oQi22gAfVr</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1374830402658045959?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hope they sign him.

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15601935)
WR in round 1. Trade up on round two for Walker Little, Dillon Radunz, hell....Liam Eichenberg.

Man, Little is a talented player but having both of our hopeful bookends of the future be guys that had season ending surgery in 19 then opting out in 20 is a nerve-wracking thought.

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15601949)
Man, Little is a talented player but having both of our hopeful bookends of the future be guys that had season ending surgery in 19 then opting out in 20 is a nerve-wracking thought.

It is what it is at this point. It’s going to depend on if he can start day one and be good to go. I’m still in the camp of signing Okung and bringing in a rookie as competition.

duncan_idaho 03-24-2021 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15601949)
Man, Little is a talented player but having both of our hopeful bookends of the future be guys that had season ending surgery in 19 then opting out in 20 is a nerve-wracking thought.


It’s extremely high upside, though.

Neither injury is one you’d expect to end a career or even actually diminish a guy. Gives KC the opportunity to get guys they otherwise wouldn’t have been in position to acquire.

Let’s say they take Walker Little as their LT of the future. If he and Niang both hit, it’s like getting two first round values at highly important positions in the same draft.

It might not hit the ground running in 2021, but that’s why your bring in Remmers and another vet as insurance at LT if you can.

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:37 PM

We had the following options at LT:

1. Keep Fisher and draft a LT to start.
2. Sign Trent Williams and draft a developmental LT
3. Sign a veteran stop gap and draft a LT for competition.
4. Draft a rookie LT and start him immediately.

RunKC 03-24-2021 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15601919)
All he said was we missed on 5 of 6 of the players we tried to get. You took that as not only is the off season over, but the season overall too. LMAO How?!? You gotta start doing breathing exercises before you post. You're way too worked up.

Exactly. Dude needs to chill LMAO

New World Order 03-24-2021 03:46 PM

There's always....Antonio Brown

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15601980)
There's always....Antonio Brown

Wouldn't be too shocked, Veach loves his talent.

staylor26 03-24-2021 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15601919)
All he said was we missed on 5 of 6 of the players we tried to get. You took that as not only is the off season over, but the season overall too. LMAO How?!? You gotta start doing breathing exercises before you post. You're way too worked up.

Wrong. The other was a cross thread reference. He said exactly what I said he did.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 03:53 PM

Our cap is screwed for next season. This is based on a cap space of 203 million next season

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just saw how much Chris Jones and Patrick Mahomes cap numbers bumped up for 2022 after looking at your tweet. DANG! <a href="https://t.co/Hlj0BolkM0">https://t.co/Hlj0BolkM0</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1374838149071966208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15601990)
Our cap is screwed for next season. This is based on a cap space of 203 million next season

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just saw how much Chris Jones and Patrick Mahomes cap numbers bumped up for 2022 after looking at your tweet. DANG! <a href="https://t.co/Hlj0BolkM0">https://t.co/Hlj0BolkM0</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1374838149071966208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes has a roster bonus of $27 million and Jones has one for $18 million. Plus we can cut Hitchens and June 1st cut Clark if they aren’t worth it.

UChieffyBugger 03-24-2021 03:55 PM

F**K IT!!..DUNLAP, BOUYE, ALEXANDER AND HUMPHRIE GET YOUR VET MIN ASSES ON A PLANE TO KC NOW!!..AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!!..CAUSE UCB SAID SOOOOOO!!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15601993)
Mahomes has a roster bonus of $27 million and Jones has one for $18 million. Plus we can cut Hitchens and June 1st cut Clark if they aren’t worth it.

How much would Clark save against the cap?

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15601998)
How much would Clark save against the cap?

$6.8 million in dead money. $19.5 million in cap savings.

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 03:58 PM

In other words, he gone.

The Franchise 03-24-2021 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15602006)
In other words, he gone.

Yeah, if he has another season like this last one....no way he sticks around.

Sassy Squatch 03-24-2021 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15602009)
Yeah, if he has another season like this last one....no way he sticks around.

Even if he actually performs that number is changing regardless.

OKchiefs 03-24-2021 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15602009)
Yeah, if he has another season like this last one....no way he sticks around.

The problem there is we already have enough needs as it is including DE even with Clark on the roster. Get rid of Clark (which I do think is the right move) and our DE depth chart is probably one of the worst in the league. The clear answer is to draft a DE, but you generally don't find elite DE talent in the draft outside of the first round. And considering the first two picks this year probably should include strong consideration at WR and LT, that seems to leave us in a bit of a pickle.

Of course KC does have next year's draft, and that's absolutely why anyone hoping we trade a 2022 1st in some trade for a LT needs to forget that idea. 1st round picks are way too valuable to be trading them off.

duncan_idaho 03-24-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15601990)
Our cap is screwed for next season. This is based on a cap space of 203 million next season

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I just saw how much Chris Jones and Patrick Mahomes cap numbers bumped up for 2022 after looking at your tweet. DANG! <a href="https://t.co/Hlj0BolkM0">https://t.co/Hlj0BolkM0</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1374838149071966208?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No. It isn't.

Mahomes' roster bonus will get converted if needed.

Clark will get adjusted. Hill will get extended and have his number lowered.

The Chiefs are not going to be in a position where they're in trouble against the cap.

I also doubt it ONLY goes up $10M from this year, considering the TV deals getting finalized and the likelihood of huge bouncebacks in stadium revenue.

Jerok 03-24-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15601970)
We had the following options at LT:

1. Keep Fisher and draft a LT to start.
2. Sign Trent Williams and draft a developmental LT
3. Sign a veteran stop gap and draft a LT for competition.
4. Draft a rookie LT and start him immediately.

They could start Thuney OR Niang at left tackle.

The Franchise 03-24-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 15602023)
They could start Thuney OR Niang at left tackle.

Niang, maybe. I don’t see them moving Thuney.

Titty Meat 03-24-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15602022)
No. It isn't.

Mahomes' roster bonus will get converted if needed.

Clark will get adjusted. Hill will get extended and have his number lowered.

The Chiefs are not going to be in a position where they're in trouble against the cap.

I also doubt it ONLY goes up $10M from this year, considering the TV deals getting finalized and the likelihood of huge bouncebacks in stadium revenue.

Where are you seeing Hill will get extended? By every indication he declined redoing his deal specifically so he can test the market in 2023

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 04:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#39;s perplexing why the Chiefs seem to be striking out after signing Thuney. There are many factors that go into free agency so there isn&#39;t a simple explanation. <a href="https://t.co/zcF6yV0897">https://t.co/zcF6yV0897</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1374820903117291523?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15602025)
Where are you seeing Hill will get extended? By every indication he declined redoing his deal specifically so he can test the market in 2023

He literally didn’t restructure because he will sign an extension. He doesn’t owe anyone a restructure as he’s already severely underpaid

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 04:16 PM

Hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That would be lit.</p>&mdash; Golden Tate (@ShowtimeTate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShowtimeTate/status/1374825339839508496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

-King- 03-24-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15602031)
Hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That would be lit.</p>&mdash; Golden Tate (@ShowtimeTate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShowtimeTate/status/1374825339839508496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

**** it. Would rather sign him than re-sign Sammy.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-24-2021 04:22 PM

Veach get Golden Tate now!! He still has some left in the tank


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