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htismaqe 02-06-2025 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17952935)
While the above was true in the Rams, the snow caused a lot of traction problems on the players. Offenses always have more of advantage when the ground is slippery. So not sure how much you can read into that one game.

That weather took away the passing games. It became a slugfest which favors the Eagles heavily. That game absolutely showed something. The Eagles were allowed by the weather to finish the game on their terms.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-06-2025 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17952947)
"They're gonna wear them down and beat them up. The Eagles are far superior like the Bucs game. The Chiefs have been bored and sneaking by teams this year but it's not gonna go down that way this time. Eagles win 38-28".

Chris Simms makes his pick official and it's no surprise because he's glazed that team harder than anyone ever has glazed a team before. What's interesting though is most media folks are overwhelmingly picking KC. Mike Florio, Mina Kimes, Ben Solak, Woody, Greeny and most of the ESPN folks. It's been shocking tbh. Tomorrow there will be more predictions but right now it's about 98% KC and even Ben Solak said to Mina kimes on her show at the superbowl media convention.."90% of everyone I talk to are picking the Chiefs".

In the end it means nothing when the teams get on the field but folks are certainly seeing a difference between these two teams. I just think experience is gonna matter and us going into Buff, Baltimore and playing San Fran last year is as tough as it gets and we prevailed. Our guys know what it takes to win on Sunday.

C'mon Chris.

They've been bored because they've been waiting for this ****ing game. He's better than that.

And 38 points would be by far the most we've given up since Super Bowl 57. More actually than even that game.

That's a non-sense, bullshit prediction from a guy who knows better.

Red Dawg 02-06-2025 10:22 AM

Any thought that we can't won this game is stupid. We have won the last two SB's and beat better teams in the playoffs.

Kman34 02-06-2025 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17952941)
I was listening to KCSN and it was interesting to listen to them talk about how Jalen Carter plays, basically he'll over pursue and then they discussed how there is an opportunity to get Carter moving the wrong way on some running plays where Trey Smith could absolutely ear hole him to set a tone which they followed by going "Yes it'll start a fight but oh well"

Screen game with Perine… He could possibly have a big game …

ptlyon 02-06-2025 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17952964)
Any thought that we can't won this game is stupid. We have won the last two SB's and beat better teams in the playoffs.

1) Vegas thinks we will won this game, and
2) There weren't, and aren't any better team than the Chiefs

htismaqe 02-06-2025 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17952968)
1) Vegas thinks we will won this game, and
2) There weren't, and aren't any better team than the Chiefs

#1 is a big one. Vegas absolutely thinks the Chiefs will win just like they did against the Bills.

RunKC 02-06-2025 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17952932)
Orlovsky did a breakdown showing that Chiefs will run a bunch of condensed formations as they did against Buffalo because it will force Fangio to play two-high out of fear of deep crossers.

The two-high then creates the numbers they need to put LBs in conflict with RPOs.

Belichick talked about this. 11 personnel with 3 receivers condensed provides an extremely difficult assignment bc of the Chiefs speed and Andy’s play design.

Making those guys think is what’s hard for rookies like Quinyon/DeJean.

Hollywood/Worthy alone will force Fangio to play cover 2 as his base defense to prevent the big play. Andy is gonna destroy him in the middle of the field bc at that point it’s 5 vs 5 in the first 10 yards and 2 of those 5 defenders are LB’s.

Huge mismatch

Mecca 02-06-2025 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17952972)
Belichick talked about this. 11 personnel with 3 receivers condensed provides an extremely difficult assignment bc of the Chiefs speed and Andy’s play design.

Making those guys think is what’s hard for rookies like Quinyon/DeJean.

Hollywood/Worthy alone will force Fangio to play cover 2 as his base defense to prevent the big play. Andy is gonna destroy him in the middle of the field bc at that point it’s 5 vs 5 in the first 10 yards and 2 of those 5 defenders are LB’s.

Huge mismatch

This doesn't even factor in that their safeties get super wide on the hashes leaving Kelce on LB's with a lot of space.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-06-2025 10:30 AM

This does feel ripe for a classic from Kelce.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-06-2025 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17952959)
C'mon Chris.

They've been bored because they've been waiting for this ****ing game. He's better than that.

And 38 points would be by far the most we've given up since Super Bowl 57. More actually than even that game.

That's a non-sense, bullshit prediction from a guy who knows better.

Yeah I kinda expected more from Chris, but oh well. It's gotta be boring picking the Chiefs all day.

UChieffyBugger 02-06-2025 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17952959)
C'mon Chris.

They've been bored because they've been waiting for this ****ing game. He's better than that.

And 38 points would be by far the most we've given up since Super Bowl 57. More actually than even that game.

That's a non-sense, bullshit prediction from a guy who knows better.

Back to back champs with a 17-1 record of which the one loss was avenged therefore our guys have defeated every team they have faced this season and this is how little Chris Simms thinks of this team? It's shocking but let him keep talking and hopefully it just adds more fuel to the fire.

Mecca 02-06-2025 10:32 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Andrew Brandt.<a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bobbystroupe</a> <a href="https://t.co/F8UlcfIDDv">pic.twitter.com/F8UlcfIDDv</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1887537437968105533?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ptlyon 02-06-2025 10:36 AM

It just comes down to execution

duncan_idaho 02-06-2025 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17952947)
"They're gonna wear them down and beat them up. The Eagles are far superior like the Bucs game. The Chiefs have been bored and sneaking by teams this year but it's not gonna go down that way this time. Eagles win 38-28".

Chris Simms makes his pick official and it's no surprise because he's glazed that team harder than anyone ever has glazed a team before. What's interesting though is most media folks are overwhelmingly picking KC. Mike Florio, Mina Kimes, Ben Solak, Woody, Greeny and most of the ESPN folks. It's been shocking tbh. Tomorrow there will be more predictions but right now it's about 98% KC and even Ben Solak said to Mina kimes on her show at the superbowl media convention.."90% of everyone I talk to are picking the Chiefs".

In the end it means nothing when the teams get on the field but folks are certainly seeing a difference between these two teams. I just think experience is gonna matter and us going into Buff, Baltimore and playing San Fran last year is as tough as it gets and we prevailed. Our guys know what it takes to win on Sunday.

Just absolute hyperbole. That's surprising from Simms. He's generally better than that.

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17952943)
Trap plays.

Defenses like this that are over-aggressive rather than two-gapping usually bode well for our run game. It's the DLs that are content to clog shit up for 1-2 yard gains that give us problems. Because those groups can play the run while letting their LBs be pass-first against the RPO.

Yeah, I'm watching Rams-Eagles condensed on YouTube right now. The Rams ran a decent amount of traps and took advantage of that.

They really ran the ball effectively with Kyren Williams and power concepts from single back and 12 sets.

Hmm. I wonder if the Chiefs would like to do that. Surely NOT!

UChieffyBugger 02-06-2025 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17952974)
This doesn't even factor in that their safeties get super wide on the hashes leaving Kelce on LB's with a lot of space.

Heard someone speak about how Andy may run some to get big guy Davis on the field then go hurry up so Eagles can't drag him off quickly on passing downs. They said that will mess with the Eagles front.

Another interesting note is most of the Eagles defense has never played in a superbowl.

ReynardMuldrake 02-06-2025 10:37 AM

I think Hunt is going to have a breakout game. I don't see how Philly can stop him AND shut down our receivers.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-06-2025 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17952987)
Heard someone speak about how Andy may run some to get big guy Davis on the field then go hurry up so Eagles can't drag him off quickly on passing downs. They said that will mess with the Eagles front.

Another interesting note is most of the Eagles defense has never played in a superbowl.

I've rarely ever seen Andy run hurry up. I doubt he does it on Sunday.

staylor26 02-06-2025 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17952951)
It was a close game all the way until the 4th quarter when the snow started to come down pretty hard...

You clearly didn't watch the game if you don't think the field conditions were an issue for the entire game. Puke Nacua was getting open then slipping or dropping balls he otherwise wouldn't have.

duncan_idaho 02-06-2025 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake (Post 17952988)
I think Hunt is going to have a breakout game. I don't see how Philly can stop him AND shut down our receivers.

You watch that Rams game and see Kyren Williams having a LOT of success on inside power runs, and it's hard to NOT see Hunt doing the same.

Dunerdr 02-06-2025 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17952981)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Andrew Brandt.<a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bobbystroupe</a> <a href="https://t.co/F8UlcfIDDv">pic.twitter.com/F8UlcfIDDv</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1887537437968105533?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This defensive line is like 80 percent of the one they beat two years ago and last year.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-06-2025 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17952981)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Andrew Brandt.<a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bobbystroupe</a> <a href="https://t.co/F8UlcfIDDv">pic.twitter.com/F8UlcfIDDv</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1887537437968105533?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WTF?

A DL that doesn't get pressure. How will Mahomes possibly handle it...

anaheimkcfan 02-06-2025 10:46 AM

gold jacket players and coaches chasing history vs a talented roster with some blue chip guys. all the analysis i need at this point

UChieffyBugger 02-06-2025 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17952990)
I've rarely ever seen Andy run hurry up. I doubt he does it on Sunday.

They did it last superbowl.

wazu 02-06-2025 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17952959)
C'mon Chris.

They've been bored because they've been waiting for this ****ing game. He's better than that.

And 38 points would be by far the most we've given up since Super Bowl 57. More actually than even that game.

That's a non-sense, bullshit prediction from a guy who knows better.

Simms also picked the Bills. I like his breakdowns but between that pick and thinking the Chiefs are going to give up 38 points I'm not too concerned with his opinion in this one.

Shawny2X4 02-06-2025 11:01 AM

Any recommendations on where to watch the game in Orlando? Asking for a friend.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-06-2025 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17952981)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Andrew Brandt.<a href="https://twitter.com/bobbystroupe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@bobbystroupe</a> <a href="https://t.co/F8UlcfIDDv">pic.twitter.com/F8UlcfIDDv</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1887537437968105533?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mean, what in the actual ****?

This DL is nothing special. Like what are we thinking here?

staylor26 02-06-2025 11:03 AM

It says a lot when the explanation for their picks makes no sense...

RaidersOftheCellar 02-06-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl1966 (Post 17952599)
Then why didn’t Mahomes eat teams alive this year? He was very blah. Now all of a sudden he’s going to eat the number one defence in the NFL alive?

1 loss all season, 7 game-winning drives, 23 TDs/2 INTs in the latter half of the year.

It's funny that clowns like you think Mahomes has something to prove to you. He could retire today, forfeit the Super Bowl, and still have achieved more than Hurts ever will.

irafreak 02-06-2025 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17952883)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I&#39;m taking Cooper Dejean as my dark horse [Super Bowl MVP], as the Eagles win the Super Bowl. He&#39;s going to have a couple of picks, a sack, a forced fumble, and a recovered fumble. I like Cooper Dejean.&quot;<br><br>— <a href="https://twitter.com/craigcartonlive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@craigcartonlive</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/BrkfstBallOnFS1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BrkfstBallOnFS1</a> <a href="https://t.co/AmHWHTOOIq">pic.twitter.com/AmHWHTOOIq</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Receipts (@ChiefsReceipts) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReceipts/status/1887290788721156300?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's predicting a defensive player has 3 forced turnovers in the superbowl against a team that doesn't turn the ball over? What kind of nonsense is this? How do these fools have jobs?

RunKC 02-06-2025 11:19 AM

From the media interviews it was relayed that the Eagles plan to have Cooper DeJean on Kelce since he covers the slot and Kelce lines up there a ton.

Godspeed young man. This is the best non-QB in playoff history. No pressure

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17953048)
He's predicting a defensive player has 3 forced turnovers in the superbowl against a team that doesn't turn the ball over? What kind of nonsense is this? How do these fools have jobs?

I mean, he very well could be arguing FOUR turnovers. The fumble recovery and forced fumble could be two different plays.

Carton's just the apex dipshit. Florio's a bad actor -- a somewhat intelligent person who's just a bitter, jilted asshole with an axe to grind.

Carton, on the other hand, probably can't change a lightbulb and sweats when he reads. He's just a goddamn moron.

TLO 02-06-2025 11:23 AM

Monkey throws shit at wall
-Film at 11

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17952932)
Orlovsky did a breakdown showing that Chiefs will run a bunch of condensed formations as they did against Buffalo because it will force Fangio to play two-high out of fear of deep crossers.

The two-high then creates the numbers they need to put LBs in conflict with RPOs.

Wanna know why I keep banging the drum on getting a RB early in the draft this year?

Man, can you imagine someone with game-breaking speed like Henderson to throw into those RPOs?

LBs in conflict with Kareem Hunt means the Chiefs gain 6-8 yards if everything goes wrong for Philly. You put a genuine top 12 RB on this roster and suddenly that 8 yard gain becomes 40.

If I'm the LBs I cheat pass on the RPO looks and force them to beat me with the ground game. And if I'm KC, my answer might just be to give Pacheco some early carries on the RPOs to see if he can pop one for 20-30 yards and give them something to think about there.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-06-2025 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953071)
Wanna know why I keep banging the drum on getting a RB early in the draft this year?

Man, can you imagine someone with game-breaking speed like Henderson to throw into those RPOs?

LBs in conflict with Kareem Hunt means the Chiefs gain 6-8 yards if everything goes wrong for Philly. You put a genuine top 12 RB on this roster and suddenly that 8 yard gain becomes 40.

If I'm the LBs I cheat pass on the RPO looks and force them to beat me with the ground game. And if I'm KC, my answer might just be to give Pacheco some early carries on the RPOs to see if he can pop one for 20-30 yards and give them something to think about there.

We don't have to imagine too much - Kareem in 2018 was what it could look like.

Great draft to go get a dude at RB but that's a story for another month from now.

Yes, they would be stupid to play into the Chiefs hands early on by leaving the pass windows vacant.

I strongly suspect the Eagles defense starts out hot headed, and it would be better to call your traps and zone runs and let the RPOs be more of a factor later on. Eh then again, their energy early could be used against them with RPOs, too.

But also again, I think the DL has to be just as disciplined as the LBs for it to work. That's what the Bengals, Raiders, and even Buffalo started to do late a couple weeks ago. The DL sees mesh and they do a hell of job just holding the LOS and attacking the gap as the RB gets to the LOS.

If Philly's young DL doesn't show that same discipline, Baun can play pass all he wants, Kareem will run for 4-8 over and over.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-06-2025 11:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is what he said before the first Eagles-Chiefs Super Bowl <a href="https://t.co/ClfhOVLrhS">pic.twitter.com/ClfhOVLrhS</a></p>&mdash; TopTrevor (@TopTrevor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TopTrevor/status/1887543999990538705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MahomesMagic 02-06-2025 11:50 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjCXhREW...g&name=900x900



Public betting on emotions.

Otter 02-06-2025 11:52 AM

My AI model is predicting a 1 point difference in deciding the game.

Something is telling me this is going to be a nail biter.

RunKC 02-06-2025 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953071)
Wanna know why I keep banging the drum on getting a RB early in the draft this year?

Man, can you imagine someone with game-breaking speed like Henderson to throw into those RPOs?

LBs in conflict with Kareem Hunt means the Chiefs gain 6-8 yards if everything goes wrong for Philly. You put a genuine top 12 RB on this roster and suddenly that 8 yard gain becomes 40.

If I'm the LBs I cheat pass on the RPO looks and force them to beat me with the ground game. And if I'm KC, my answer might just be to give Pacheco some early carries on the RPOs to see if he can pop one for 20-30 yards and give them something to think about there.

To be fair they did get this from Kareem vs Buffalo, but yeah only 17 explosive 10+ yd runs all year from the RB room is awful.

Man look how much the LB’s are thinking in this clip. Andy is going to make Zack Buan look like Boomer Grigsby there. Last time he put a clinic onTJ Edwards and Kyzier White.

The 2021 struggle is gonna help us big time Sunday. They have so much experience against Fangio. Not sure how anyone can say this isn’t a major coaching advantage for us.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs inverted wishbone formation is a PROBLEM.<br><br>They run dive, inside/outside zone, jet sweeps, play action, boots, keepers, RPO’s AND QB DRIVEN RUNS from it.<br><br>Every defense gets tricked into giving them the treat of busted coverages, easy yards and TDs like it’s Halloween, <a href="https://t.co/K83fhHJaV7">pic.twitter.com/K83fhHJaV7</a></p>&mdash; Robert Griffin III (@RGIII) <a href="https://twitter.com/RGIII/status/1887213647048450347?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Otter 02-06-2025 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17953090)

Is there a "so I called a gambling problem hotline" YouTube video? If not there should be.

EDIT: curiosity killed the cat

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staylor26 02-06-2025 12:01 PM

I think Kareem will have more burst like he did in the AFCCG and divisional round after another bye essentially.

Hammock Parties 02-06-2025 12:04 PM

avoiding injury?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting note: The Chiefs have had a grass playing surface put in over the top of Tulane’s turf playing field for their practices.</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1887161906160386438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 02-06-2025 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953071)
Wanna know why I keep banging the drum on getting a RB early in the draft this year?

Man, can you imagine someone with game-breaking speed like Henderson to throw into those RPOs?

LBs in conflict with Kareem Hunt means the Chiefs gain 6-8 yards if everything goes wrong for Philly. You put a genuine top 12 RB on this roster and suddenly that 8 yard gain becomes 40.

If I'm the LBs I cheat pass on the RPO looks and force them to beat me with the ground game. And if I'm KC, my answer might just be to give Pacheco some early carries on the RPOs to see if he can pop one for 20-30 yards and give them something to think about there.

Yeah, the offense cooks with a RB who can put teams in conf.lict there.

This is the draft to reload at that spot. Spend that late 2nd/early 3rd/late 3rd on one of the backs who can give you some HR-hitting ability.

There are quite a few of them out there.

DJ's left nut 02-06-2025 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17953099)
To be fair they did get this from Kareem vs Buffalo, but yeah only 17 explosive 10+ yd runs all year from the RB room is awful.

Man look how much the LB’s are thinking in this clip. Andy is going to make Zack Buan look like Boomer Grigsby there. Last time he put a clinic onTJ Edwards and Kyzier White.

The 2021 struggle is gonna help us big time Sunday. They have so much experience against Fangio. Not sure how anyone can say this isn’t a major coaching advantage for us.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs inverted wishbone formation is a PROBLEM.<br><br>They run dive, inside/outside zone, jet sweeps, play action, boots, keepers, RPO’s AND QB DRIVEN RUNS from it.<br><br>Every defense gets tricked into giving them the treat of busted coverages, easy yards and TDs like it’s Halloween, <a href="https://t.co/K83fhHJaV7">pic.twitter.com/K83fhHJaV7</a></p>&mdash; Robert Griffin III (@RGIII) <a href="https://twitter.com/RGIII/status/1887213647048450347?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm I nuts for kinda thinking we'll see a throw to PM out of that formation on Sunday?

I have ZERO idea how they'd do it within the context of that mesh/triple option thing, but Andy is just smarter than I am so he'll have something in mind.

If they get up by double digits at some point, it's coming.

I don't know if they'll have the stones to try it in a close game, but I wouldn't put it outside oft he realm of possibility either.

Andy lets his balls hang out a bit in these situations...

staylor26 02-06-2025 12:07 PM

Any of of the Ohio St. RBs would do.

duncan_idaho 02-06-2025 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17953107)
I think Kareem will have more burst like he did in the AFCCG and divisional round after another bye essentially.

I think he might break Mahomes' SB MVP streak. In fact, that's MY dark horse prediction.

Hunt has 2 TDs rushing and another one receiving and is the SB LIX MVP.

duncan_idaho 02-06-2025 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953114)
I'm I nuts for kinda thinking we'll see a throw to PM out of that formation on Sunday?

I have ZERO idea how they'd do it within the context of that mesh/triple option thing, but Andy is just smarter than I am so he'll have something in mind.

If they get up by double digits at some point, it's coming.

I don't know if they'll have the stones to try it in a close game, but I wouldn't put it outside oft he realm of possibility either.

Andy lets his balls hang out a bit in these situations...

You're not crazy. They'd do a "give" to Kelce running to his right, keep pulling Gray to the left side of the formation, and then throw it to Mahomes with, presumably, Gray in front of him to block.

Or, if you want to get really nuts, you have Worthy come in motion from the right side of the formation, Kelce pitches it to him running to the left of the formation, and HE throws it to Mahomes.

That might be easier to pull off. Gives you more space to make the throw and gets it to a player whose momentum would be going the correct way.

And if the Eagles cover it up, you now have the fastest player on the field screaming across the formation at full speed (and the Eagles probably slow-playing following him just a little bit because of corn dog memories?)

RunKC 02-06-2025 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17953115)
Any of of the Ohio St. RBs would do.

Gonna be a fun offseason to talk about it this bc the Chiefs have to use their 1st if they want any of those guys and man I’m just not entirely sold on a 1st for a RB again.

Especially when this DL class looks awesome

ThaVirus 02-06-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17953110)
avoiding injury?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting note: The Chiefs have had a grass playing surface put in over the top of Tulane’s turf playing field for their practices.</p>&mdash; Tucker D. Franklin (@tuckerdfranklin) <a href="https://twitter.com/tuckerdfranklin/status/1887161906160386438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 5, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What’s the significance here? What surface do they have in the SuperDome?

UChieffyBugger 02-06-2025 12:17 PM

It may not mean a damn thing but here are the scores after Philly had a two week break this season.

1. 20-16 win vs The Browns after their bye

2. 22-10 win vs The Packers on wildcard weekend

They weren't great offensively both times. Infact in both games they only scored two TD's and struggled a lot on 3rd down.

Bearcat 02-06-2025 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17953124)
You're not crazy. They'd do a "give" to Kelce running to his right, keep pulling Gray to the left side of the formation, and then throw it to Mahomes with, presumably, Gray in front of him to block.

Or, if you want to get really nuts, you have Worthy come in motion from the right side of the formation, Kelce pitches it to him running to the left of the formation, and HE throws it to Mahomes.

That might be easier to pull off. Gives you more space to make the throw and gets it to a player whose momentum would be going the correct way.

And if the Eagles cover it up, you now have the fastest player on the field screaming across the formation at full speed (and the Eagles probably slow-playing following him just a little bit because of corn dog memories?)

I don't think they've done any direct snaps out of that formation lately to Kecle, either... one that vaguely comes to.mind was earlier this season, I think.

Direct snap to Kelce, Mahomes rolls out like he was in the AFCCG, Kelce takes a step or two forward like he's running it or maybe play action, then find Mahomes.

Gary Cooper 02-06-2025 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953071)
Wanna know why I keep banging the drum on getting a RB early in the draft this year?

Man, can you imagine someone with game-breaking speed like Henderson to throw into those RPOs?

LBs in conflict with Kareem Hunt means the Chiefs gain 6-8 yards if everything goes wrong for Philly. You put a genuine top 12 RB on this roster and suddenly that 8 yard gain becomes 40.

If I'm the LBs I cheat pass on the RPO looks and force them to beat me with the ground game. And if I'm KC, my answer might just be to give Pacheco some early carries on the RPOs to see if he can pop one for 20-30 yards and give them something to think about there.

Yeah, I keep going back and forth on this. If I could bring back one Chief legend into this offense, would I take Tyreek Hill or Jamaal Charles?

staylor26 02-06-2025 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17953128)
Gonna be a fun offseason to talk about it this bc the Chiefs have to use their 1st if they want any of those guys and man I’m just not entirely sold on a 1st for a RB again.

Especially when this DL class looks awesome

Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson, and those 2 aren't all going in the first 50 picks. You do this every single year LMAO

This RB class is ****ing loaded. Somebody is going to fall outside of the top 50 and probably even all the way to 63/64.

smithandrew051 02-06-2025 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17953140)
Yeah, I keep going back and forth on this. If I could bring back one Chief legend into this offense, would I take Tyreek Hill or Jamaal Charles?

Willie Roaf to massively upgrade two spots on the OL.

Then, I’d go Tyreek.

Then Jamaal.

Then probably Gonzalez as TE2. That tandem would be insane.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-06-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17953131)
What’s the significance here? What surface do they have in the SuperDome?

I'm pretty sure the New Orleans stadium is turf.
Unless this is another Arizona situation where they're bringing in new experimental grass that we don't know about.

Gary Cooper 02-06-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17953146)
Willie Roaf to massively upgrade two spots on the OL.

Then, I’d go Tyreek.

Then Jamaal.

Then probably Gonzalez as TE2. That tandem would be insane.

Roaf is a good first choice. I was thinking skill positions.

The offense was dynamite with Tyreek but we've never seen Mahomes with a speedster at RB. Especially a good receiving back like Jamaal was who could run deeper routes if need be.

staylor26 02-06-2025 12:29 PM

He wouldn't be my first choice, or even 5th, but it's fun to think about 12 personel with Kelce and Tony G.

smithandrew051 02-06-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17953149)
Roaf is a good first choice. I was thinking skill positions.

The offense was dynamite with Tyreek but we've never seen Mahomes with a speedster at RB. Especially a good receiving back like Jamaal was who could run deeper routes if need be.

Jamaal would upgrade RB more than Hill would upgrade WR.

I just can’t get past having a quartet of Hill, Worthy, Brown, Hopkins/Juju out there.

The Chiefs passing game was so damn good when Watkins was rarely healthy to go with Hill. I could only imagine it with guys like Worthy and Brown.

Mecca 02-06-2025 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17953128)
Gonna be a fun offseason to talk about it this bc the Chiefs have to use their 1st if they want any of those guys and man I’m just not entirely sold on a 1st for a RB again.

Especially when this DL class looks awesome

The Chiefs very much have a type for DL so you can literally go through and start making guys off narrowing that down a bunch.

staylor26 02-06-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17953156)
The Chiefs very much have a type for DL so you can literally go through and start making guys off narrowing that down a bunch.

Pretty sure Run is referring more to the DT group, and there are a ton of guys that would fit whether it be one DT spot or another.

RunKC 02-06-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17953145)
Jeanty, Hampton, Johnson, and those 2 aren't all going in the first 50 picks. You do this every single year LMAO

This RB class is ****ing loaded. Somebody is going to fall outside of the top 50 and probably even all the way to 63/64.

No way in hell would I use a first rd pick on Hampton, Judkins or Johnson.

TreVeyon Henderson is far and away the best fit for this offense so he’s the only one I would take at 32.

It is a deep RB class though and I think one of Johnson or Neal will be right there at 64 or 66.

Gary Cooper 02-06-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17953152)
He wouldn't be my first choice, or even 5th, but it's fun to think about 12 personel with Kelce and Tony G.

I mean the dude was a TD machine in the red zone. You could throw into coverage and he'd take the ball away from defenders. And he was a great blocker.

I'd take Roaf, Charles, and Hill over him for offensive players to bring back but only because we have more need at those positions.

Gary Cooper 02-06-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17953153)
Jamaal would upgrade RB more than Hill would upgrade WR.

I just can’t get past having a quartet of Hill, Worthy, Brown, Hopkins/Juju out there.

The Chiefs passing game was so damn good when Watkins was rarely healthy to go with Hill. I could only imagine it with guys like Worthy and Brown.

Yeah, I rewatched highlights recently of the early playoff runs with Mahomes and forgot just how many big plays Watkins made (besides just the long TD against the Titans). Too bad he couldn't stay healthy long in his career.

staylor26 02-06-2025 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17953162)
No way in hell would I use a first rd pick on Hampton, Judkins or Johnson.

TreVeyon Henderson is far and away the best fit for this offense so he’s the only one I would take at 32.

It is a deep RB class though and I think one of Johnson or Neal will be right there at 64 or 66.

Umm I wasn't advocating for that...

Iconic 02-06-2025 12:46 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗦: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> DT Jalen Carter is dealing with an illness that has been spreading around the locker room, per Vic Fangio.<br><br>He was a limited participant in practice for a second straight day, but Fangio is hopeful that Carter will play in the Super Bowl. <a href="https://t.co/4YR8NAFL1l">pic.twitter.com/4YR8NAFL1l</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1887571850181415239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

i mean hes still going to play through it no matter what i imagine but he's clearly not going to be 100%

O.city 02-06-2025 12:58 PM

I'd not take a RB in the first....I'd take another WR though.

staylor26 02-06-2025 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17953196)
I'd not take a RB in the first....I'd take another WR though.

What about a TE with high upside like Arroyo? He's going to be TE3 and in that late 1st convo by the time the process is over.

O.city 02-06-2025 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17953198)
What about a TE with high upside like Arroyo? He's going to be TE3 and in that late 1st convo by the time the process is over.

Eh, I'd entertain it but probably not. Kelce is coming back and the kid from TCu who's name escapes me.

Kman34 02-06-2025 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17953199)
Eh, I'd entertain it but probably not. Kelce is coming back and the kid from TCu who's name escapes me.

Wiley…

Otter 02-06-2025 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17953131)
What’s the significance here? What surface do they have in the SuperDome?

That's a curious one. Prevent injuries? :shrug:

Boxer_Chief 02-06-2025 01:03 PM

Yeah I take Charles to bring back and plug in this offense. Especially if you have rice, then it’s rice worthy Hopkins juju and brown with Kelce and absolute explosion in the backfield that would be unstoppable.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-06-2025 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17953177)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗦: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> DT Jalen Carter is dealing with an illness that has been spreading around the locker room, per Vic Fangio.<br><br>He was a limited participant in practice for a second straight day, but Fangio is hopeful that Carter will play in the Super Bowl. <a href="https://t.co/4YR8NAFL1l">pic.twitter.com/4YR8NAFL1l</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1887571850181415239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

i mean hes still going to play through it no matter what i imagine but he's clearly not going to be 100%

Illness spreading through the locker room, you say? :hmmm:

Boxer_Chief 02-06-2025 01:04 PM

I’ve done several draft simulations and they have Membou available at 32 that’s who I’m taking. Although I’ve seen several mocks with him going higher too. Then you can probably get Henderson in the second.

nychief 02-06-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17953177)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝗥𝗨𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗦: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> DT Jalen Carter is dealing with an illness that has been spreading around the locker room, per Vic Fangio.<br><br>He was a limited participant in practice for a second straight day, but Fangio is hopeful that Carter will play in the Super Bowl. <a href="https://t.co/4YR8NAFL1l">pic.twitter.com/4YR8NAFL1l</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1887571850181415239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

i mean hes still going to play through it no matter what i imagine but he's clearly not going to be 100%



I dunno about this report. I think this is click bait stream.

Kman34 02-06-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17953114)
I'm I nuts for kinda thinking we'll see a throw to PM out of that formation on Sunday?

I have ZERO idea how they'd do it within the context of that mesh/triple option thing, but Andy is just smarter than I am so he'll have something in mind.

If they get up by double digits at some point, it's coming.

I don't know if they'll have the stones to try it in a close game, but I wouldn't put it outside oft he realm of possibility either.

Andy lets his balls hang out a bit in these situations...

I like this idea…

Chiefspants 02-06-2025 01:13 PM

I’ve been lurking Eagles forums/discussion this week. They of course believe they’ll win, and in dominant fashion, but similar to our concerns over Jalen Carter, there is a matchup they’re worried about.

Kelce. I’ve seen multiple Eagles folks argue that Blankenship is the best they have to cover him (otherwise they’re looking at Burks), but we saw Ertz put up 11/104 on Blankenship last week. Eagles fans believe this is still the best case scenario, because similar to Washington, devoting too much attention on our TE then opens up home run potential with Worthy or quick hitters to Brown. Buffalo put a lot of resources into shutting Kelce down, and we burned them time and time again for it.

To add to this, this game screams Noah Gray to me. It seems like the perfect game for him to take advantage of the soft underbelly of that D and give Pat quick outs if the pocket is collapsing on him. This game is primed for receivers who recognize open spots and settle in - something Gray has excelled at this year.

Hammock Parties 02-06-2025 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17953210)
Illness spreading through the locker room, you say? :hmmm:

AIDS.

The Eagles have AIDS.

RunKC 02-06-2025 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17953196)
I'd not take a RB in the first....I'd take another WR though.

If TreVeyon Henderson runs in the 4.3’s like many here said that he should, at 5”10 215 lbs, then he’s gonna be a type of back similar to Jahmyr Gibbs in this offense.

The guy has incredible vision, elite caliber speed (on tape) and is a very good receiving back.

That would be worth it at 32 IMO

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-06-2025 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 17953177)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">������������: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> DT Jalen Carter is dealing with an illness that has been spreading around the locker room, per Vic Fangio.<br><br>He was a limited participant in practice for a second straight day, but Fangio is hopeful that Carter will play in the Super Bowl. <a href="https://t.co/4YR8NAFL1l">pic.twitter.com/4YR8NAFL1l</a></p>&mdash; JPAFootball (@jasrifootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jasrifootball/status/1887571850181415239?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

i mean hes still going to play through it no matter what i imagine but he's clearly not going to be 100%

The rumor is from Fangio himself.

Don't believe a word he says.

UChieffyBugger 02-06-2025 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17953212)
I dunno about this report. I think this is click bait stream.

It's not everyone is reporting it.

dannybcaitlyn 02-06-2025 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17953228)
If TreVeyon Henderson runs in the 4.3’s like many here said that he should, at 5”10 215 lbs, then he’s gonna be a type of back similar to Jahmyr Gibbs in this offense.

The guy has incredible vision, elite caliber speed (on tape) and is a very good receiving back.

That would be worth it at 32 IMO

Cowboys pick him at 12 like Detroit did Gibbs.


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