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saphojunkie 08-05-2013 05:52 PM

15:42 in the second video. God, Stanzi sucks.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-05-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9860641)
15:42 in the second video. God, Stanzi sucks.

He needs to cut that hair. It's ridiculous.

saphojunkie 08-05-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9860640)

Yep, that was specifically for you.

saphojunkie 08-05-2013 05:56 PM

Can we please get CP to get credentialed so that we can have official TC videos?

saphojunkie 08-05-2013 05:57 PM

16:03 - Yikes, Smiff. That was worse than Stanzi.

Easy 6 08-05-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9860636)
Is this a joke?

Faulk career receiving
6875yds, long 85, 36td, 9ypr

Craig career receiving
4911yds, long 73,17td, 8.7ypr

As you can see, no, i wasnt joking...

Sully 08-05-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9860657)
Faulk career receiving
6875yds, long 85, 36td, 9ypr

Craig career receiving
4911yds, long 73,17td, 8.7ypr

As you can see, no, i wasnt joking...

It's silly to say "it's not even close," when you consider the eras, the offenses they played in, as well as the talent around them. Faulk may be better, but my contention is with the not even close comment.

Easy 6 08-05-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9860954)
It's silly to say "it's not even close," when you consider the eras, the offenses they played in, as well as the talent around them. Faulk may be better, but my contention is with the not even close comment.

Its not like Craig played in a caveman offense that didnt like throwing to backs, i'd also dispute that he wasnt on extremely talented offensive teams.

Craig was a great pass catching back, his numbers prove that... but Martz was convinced that Faulk could've been an all-pro wide receiver, he was constantly split wide and ran wide receiver routes, not running back routes.

It'd be awesome to have him come to camp and work with these guys, it doesnt even matter that he was in a coryell system.

ps to buzz tinballs - i get the sneaky feeling you were trying to set me up with that "wco" line, i knew better :)...

Sorter 08-05-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9861011)
Its not like Craig played in a caveman offense that didnt like throwing to backs, i'd also dispute that he wasnt on extremely talented offensive teams.

Craig was a great pass catching back, his numbers prove that... but Martz was convinced that Faulk could've been an all-pro wide receiver, he was constantly split wide and ran wide receiver routes, not running back routes.

It'd be awesome to have him come to camp and work with these guys, it doesnt even matter that he was in a coryell system.


ps to buzz tinballs - i get the sneaky feeling you were trying to set me up with that line, i knew better :)...

Given the concepts I've seen from Andy, as well as personnel, there isn't a giant gap in philosophy. Andy's a pretty unique WCO guy. McCarthy/Payton as well.

Easy 6 08-05-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9861016)
Given the concepts I've seen from Andy, as well as personnel, there isn't a giant gap in philosophy. Andy's a pretty unique WCO guy. McCarthy/Payton as well.

Interesting, i didnt know they werent that far apart.

Unfortunately, i'm afraid Clark has paid for all of the coaching he's going to.

Sorter 08-05-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9861043)
Interesting, i didnt know they werent that far apart.

Unfortunately, i'm afraid Clark has paid for all of the coaching he's going to.

Well, you see a lot of 3/4vert concepts from Andy, which is the antithesis of WCO ideals (froma pure philo standpoint).


That's a staple of most Coryell systems and something you'll see regularly if you watch the cowboys, Saints, and Browns this year.

Sorter 08-05-2013 07:38 PM

Ermahgerrhdd, who could have predicted this!!???


The Chiefs are using SS Eric Berry at strong safety in their base defense and linebacker in dime packages.
He's a blitzing safety or linebacker type in the nickel. The Kansas City Star suggests Berry could rank among the Chiefs' leaders in both tackles and sacks, which would be very nice for his IDP value. Further removed from his 2011 major knee injury, Berry is a breakout candidate under new coordinator Bob Sutton. Sutton has coached far less talented safeties to huge statistical years.

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football/

But really, this isn't the worst thing in the world. I expected it and frankly, if I were in charge of this defense, I'd do very similar things. %s might be different on snaps but from a philo perspective, I understand why both Romeo and Sutton are using him ITB in sub alignments.

Hammock Parties 08-05-2013 07:43 PM

Romeo was stupid for it, and Sutton is too.

Sweet Daddy Hate 08-05-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861149)
Romeo was stupid for it, and Sutton is too.

We will nevar let him play to his natural talent. It's one of the many great institutions we have incorporated at OAD.

Sorter 08-05-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861149)
Romeo was stupid for it, and Sutton is too.

It really depends on your personnel and your sub principles. Additionally, if you're a team that utilizes fz and combos, then this can be appealing as well.

Honestly, it isn't like these coaches have another choice. They don't have anyone else who can step in and cover at LB/S in that 2-3-6 variant not named Eric berry, despite his various levels of productivity there.


Whether that's a coaching or personnel staff issue, I have no idea. Personally, I'd rather have Kiko Alonso or Arthur Brown filling that spot with a multitude of things for Berry to do.


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