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Sure-Oz 07-15-2018 04:13 PM

@jcrasnick: The #RedSox and #Braves are both interested in Mike Moustakas as a trade deadline acquisition, sources say. The #Yankees have already been mentioned as a potential landing spot. There's enough of a market for Moose that it's more likely than not the Royals deal him this month.

@Feinsand: According to a source, the Royals are trying to find a match for a Mike Moustakas deal, but it appears KC will have to wait until Manny Machado gets dealt first. Manny could be the domino that starts a number of things in motion.

Mecca 07-15-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13629651)
How did those Mets pitchers turn out? Pretty sure we played the orioles in the playoffs a couple years ago, how are they doing these days? What about the offensive juggernaut blue Jays from the playoffs? Angels?

All teams that sacrificed players and the future to get a chance to win a world series.

Difference between then and us right now? We went to two and won one.

Shut the **** up please.

Jacob DeGrom is having a Cy Young type of season and Syndergaard is still pretty awesome...Harvey went down the shitter but lets not act like they all suck.

Telling me teams like the Blue Jays that fired GMs or other teams that don't know what they are doing is a good example..isn't really helpful either.

SAUTO 07-15-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13629711)
Jacob DeGrom is having a Cy Young type of season and Syndergaard is still pretty awesome...Harvey went down the shitter but lets not act like they all suck.

Telling me teams like the Blue Jays that fired GMs or other teams that don't know what they are doing is a good example..isn't really helpful either.

:rolleyes:

SAUTO 07-15-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13629670)
No need to be an ass.

You can shut up too lol.

Mecca 07-15-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13629719)
:rolleyes:

Is what I said wrong? DeGrom is an ace level pitcher, does he suck?

SAUTO 07-15-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13629726)
Is what I said wrong? DeGrom is an ace level pitcher, does he suck?

He is. So they really hit on one of 3at this point. How many world series did it win?

The gms that got fired were because they didn't win nor because they were going to be bad this year.

SAUTO 07-15-2018 04:45 PM

And Ventura definitely could have been an ace. But he ducking died dude.


Same old mecca. How many posts did you make on the royals before '14?

KChiefs1 07-15-2018 04:49 PM

*** Official 2018 Royals Repository ***
 
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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13629667)
Wow.. We really, REALLY suck.



(Breaking news)



We are sucking historically bad but so is Baltimore. Typical Royals luck to have an epically bad team & have another team doing the same thing.

46-116 should always get you the first pick.

duncan_idaho 07-15-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13629711)
Jacob DeGrom is having a Cy Young type of season and Syndergaard is still pretty awesome...Harvey went down the shitter but lets not act like they all suck.



Telling me teams like the Blue Jays that fired GMs or other teams that don't know what they are doing is a good example..isn't really helpful either.


But it does bring up a good point... look around MlB and tell me which GM who is shepherding a small market team you’d take over Dayton Moore.

Similar markets are:

Minnesota
Tampa
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
San Diego

KChiefs1 07-15-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13629736)
But it does bring up a good point... look around MlB and tell me which GM who is shepherding a small market team you’d take over Dayton Moore.

Similar markets are:

Minnesota
Tampa
Milwaukee
Cincinnati
San Diego



Brewers are doing nicely.

Chiefspants 07-15-2018 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13629741)
Brewers are doing nicely.

They are - but they were abysmal during the Royals window of contention (after previously being contenders from 2009-2011). It’s funny, the Brewers GM has said on a few occasions he sees GMDM and the Royals as kindred spirits/franchises.

They are a much more realistic model for us to shoot for rather than a team like the Yankees.

banecat 07-15-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13629741)
Brewers are doing nicely.

Minnesota may not be such a bad gig. Cincy just needs some pitching to go with that batting lineup

duncan_idaho 07-15-2018 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13629741)
Brewers are doing nicely.


They are.

Last year was their 2013. This would be similar to their 2014.

Like the Royals, they cashed in some prospects to fill holes.

Like the Royals, they built their farm system up during a period of time where they weren’t very good at all.

And like the Royals, they’ll likely cycle back down and have to rebuild again (as they did following the 2012 season).

duncan_idaho 07-15-2018 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by banecat (Post 13629749)
Minnesota may not be such a bad gig. Cincy just needs some pitching to go with that batting lineup


The Twins also were terrible for most of the decade and went into a full tear down rebuild while doing it (after giving an albatross contract to their own homegrown star).

The Reds have been terrible since going into their rebuild phase (and haven’t done a tremendous job with the rebuild).

My point is that there is a cycle going on in all these places. Up. Then down. Then up again (if managed competently).

banecat 07-15-2018 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 13629781)
The Twins also were terrible for most of the decade and went into a full tear down rebuild while doing it (after giving an albatross contract to their own homegrown star).

The Reds have been terrible since going into their rebuild phase (and haven’t done a tremendous job with the rebuild).

My point is that there is a cycle going on in all these places. Up. Then down. Then up again (if managed competently).

True. The Twins had looked like they'd turned it around. The Reds might be back next year. And the Brewers have been competitive most years for over a decade. Down years in the NLC have helped that. It goes more to what you're saying about cycles. They had luck for when the entire division wasn't very good


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