I'll take 5 seconds on the clock with one of the best basketball coaches in history drawing up a play over 5 seconds on the clock with nothing happening and a player 30 feet from the basket all day every day, yeah.

Not sure what the debate is here.

Am I just seeing shit or was the kstate player out of bounds with the ball with time on the clock?

I mean didn’t folks watch our nation championship run last year and not know how well we paid the refs?

Other than missing shots, Dick did not have a bad game.

From the camera angle he was. But on the baseline who knows. It wasn’t reviewed.

you see men's balls alot

Yeah, I think he may have messed up there with ONLY 5 seconds on the play clock, but ultimately it was our 3-point shooting, or lack of, that got us. (Not to mention the refereeing) oh darn it, I wasn't going to mention it. :doh!:

McCullar's last foul consisted of him not making contact as well (and Wilson got called for a foul with under a minute left on a clean strip turnover). We got destroyed by the refs in this one, but that's to be expected there.

You sir saw correctly.

He was lying out of bounds with the ball with a second left, yeah. We'd have had one more shot at it if the game was properly reffed but they're never calling that back in that situation.

Except when it is called that late in the shot clock

Hell a 5 or 6 loss team could win this conference. It’s gonna be a grinder for all parties.

I generally think Mccular complains a lot but most of his fouls tonight were bad calls straight up. Game is easy to move on from, K-State just won their nati.

Not really. There are plays you can run (and that Self has run many, many times) that get better shots with 5 seconds on the clock than 30 foot contested threes.

This discourse makes no sense.

I'd be surprised if we lost less than 5 games in this conference, yeah. Six more road games to go.